SLR Originals is getting back to 8K Canon production

Vrsumo2017

Vrsumo2017 But anyways, I was thinking if it's the same canon yall using rest it to default mode. Just a thought

No offense, but I do not think professionals need tips from someone watching a random youtube video and clearly has no idea about photography/videography.

Vrsumo2017 Then shows the camera in a setting called c-log 3 cinema gamut, and that looks like the filter I hate to see in vrp, looks movie-ish, like the contrast is to low and colors don't pop. Can't stand that filter...

Which is blatantly obvious not even knowing what C-Log is.

Actually C-Log is way closer to what the camera sees in reality, and the standard mode is kinda what you call a filter to boost contrast/saturation.

C-Log kinda is a substitute for RAW for videos, as most cameras even today can not handle true RAW when shooting videos, unlike what you do in photos. It is not meant to use C-Log for final videos, but as an input for the postprocessing pipeline to preserve as much information as possible from the actual scene without having actual RAW.

The "standard" mode that you love so much looses a lot of DR and possibly also color accuracy while giving you this "pleasing to the eye" view.

And frankly all VR videos of today show terrible DR when they shoot even a somewhat demanding scene with some outdoor content visible, and only very controlled lighting in studios can give DR in check that it looks good.

So if they are not shooting C-Log (or something similar) it would be very welcome to do so and get a proper tonemapping in post. Maybe they are and current cameras are simply not capable of shooting such high DR, although hard to believe when I see what even my tiny RX100 can do when shooting LOG.

ibins The "standard" mode that you love so much looses a lot of DR and possibly also color accuracy while giving you this "pleasing to the eye" view.

If your talking about standard like in this scene

The Geeks are Cumming - Fucking Sexy Classmate Leana Lovings Ultra HD VR

If that's standard then give more of that! wasn't nothing wrong with it imo, picture looked very crisp, colors were great, scale was great/perfect. It's perfect! if there was any lose of anything due to it being standard then it was very unnoticeable, and that's the best I've seen Leana in vr out of all her vr scenes.

Is this still the company plan?

justanotherone Meta quest2 still occupy the market which is not that good to watch 8k .Not everyone can afford the high price of pimax8k and a highend computer...

I used to own the K2 pro and upgraded to the Canon r5 c and they are completely different FOV lenses and the R5 C should not be left in fisheye view, I don't understand why you keep publishing videos in fisheye, you have to convert to equirectangular to get proper 180 FOV.

metichemsi other people using the Canon camera (VRHush and FuckpassVR) had the same scaling and distortion issues and they do not use the fisheye option.

petermc I'll look through some of their scenes to see if I can see it. Not sure what conversion software or process those sites use but I'll try comparing scaling vs my own footage to see if I see a difference. Most likely have to do with the IPD difference between the two systems.

petermc This is true but I have also seen some excellent work with the R5C with correct scaling, so it is possible to get it correct(though possible it's more limiting over 64 IPD cameras )

For example watch this scene from Fuckpass https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/that-happened-in-vegas-31111

doublevr t doesn't seem possible to get the right focus

I was wondering what was wrong with some of the more recent SLRO videos. Some of them seem "fuzzy" for lack of a better term, because I don't know much about the technical stuff.

fathergll great example, this whole debacle with the r5c seems to also have roots with their previous European team who sound like they screwed things up and are now gone. From what I have read so far it seems like the European team was filming 8k at 30fps and then leaving the footage in fisheye, quite possibly the worst way to watch content. They should have been filming in 60p and doing proper eqyirectangular conversions like in that scene. I also think that some or part of the decision might have also been from the fact that they have been working on their own custom 10k camera solution so investing on Canon and being locked in that ecosystem at this point might not have been the right long term goal. Just look at how long they were filming with the k2 pro, they will pick one camera system and stick with it for several years before another upgrade

metichemsi I wasn't aware they were filming in 30FPS though SLR does interpolate to 60 FPS so that may have been part of the issue but KinkygirlsBerlin filmed in 8K 30fps because they used the R5 and they didn't have big issues(though not ideal to interpolate)

The biggest SLR Original R5C issues early on were the fisheye like you said and #1 was the scenes appeared out of focus which I don't know if it was from user error or lens issue. This was their first R5C scene https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/big-tits-at-the-glory-hole-26692?tab=downloads

Apparently, they have remastered this which I haven't viewed yet but from 11 months ago they commented " SLR Originals - Evan, Head of Post-production 11 months ago
yes, I agreed, this scene is slightly out of focus, we need some time to handle this new camera. "

But yes equirectangular conversions is such an important thing along with the age old challenge of placing the camera and model just the right distance which is something that has been always a challenge for all studios(though some are more consistent that others). R5C is probably more critical to get all of these things aligned precisely. Other challenged I have seen with the R5C is that Canon Raw Light can be extremely noisy if not used with certain settings. It's a known issue and some theorized that Netflix rejected the R5C from their Netflix certification because of the RAW. NaughtyAmerica is using the R5C and their early releases with it were completely unwatchable because the entire thing was noise(they corrected much of that since)

Definitely a challenging camera from what we've seen. WankzVR and StripZVR commented they wouldn't use this camera because of the IPD but there seems to be ways of making it work.

fathergll Yes, this scene is severely out of focus, the production team should have done a proper check before shooting. Also, the aperture you chose also plays a big part, if they shot this at f2.8 I can see how they could more easily screw up the focus. I personally calibrate my focus on my r5c before each shoot. I printed large 2'x3' focus card sheets. F5.6 is the sweet spot for this lens but you will need more light indoors, I only shoot at f2.8 indoors when I know all of my action will stay relatively compact. Also, since the focus ring is so accessible it could have just as likely been someone accidently bumping the focus ring while they were rigging or adjusting something else haha, that has happened to me also.

There is no way around the difference in IPD between the 2 cameras. Regarding the scale difference, the best solution I have seen to match the scale difference is to zoom in each lens of the r5c in, it does zoom in and artificially increase the IPD of the footage, it also leaves a little bit of warp on the far edges, but the scaling is essentially matched to the k2 pro footage. Not an ideal solution but it is possible.

And yes, you are absolutely right, there are studios who are putting out perfectly good content with this camera, just like the other scene you shared in one of your previous posts.

Regarding noise, yes it does have noise, specially when you shoot at its base ISO of 800. The problem I have discovered in all my testing is that you should not shoot at iso 800 for VR in the first place. Yes, base ISO will give you the best dynamic range, but this mentality comes from mainly the non vr filming standards. Noise suppression is far more important in VR than a little more dynamic range. There are plenty of other manual ways to control the lighting of your scene than to rely on dynamic range from its base ISO. I personally use 100, 200, or maybe even 400 ISO when I shoot and the noise levels are good enough at 400 and almost non-existing at 100-200. I also have been using the canon VR utility to convert to equirectangular and their tool has a build in noise reduction dial, which cleans things up even more. I have not needed to do any noise reduction using those 2 methods. yes, you might need to use a little more light and you lose out on some dynamic range, but who cares, I'm not going to purposely film in super contrast scenes in the first place. I really think that was also part of the noise issue some people were complaining about. Some studios stuck to the traditional way of thinking to only shoot at base ISO levels and found out that trying to apply noise reduction in post on a 8k video will take ages haha and said screw it, its good enough.

metichemsi Good points.

"zoom in each lens of the r5c in, it does zoom in and artificially increase the IPD of the footage, it also leaves a little bit of warp on the far edges"

When you say zoom in are you talking about in post using Mistika boutique?