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The FM DUO looks good with 8k

Any studios using this cam, it's looks like a camera I've seen in bts videos from another studio, can't remember what studio.

    I found this video on YouTube this guy showing off a Canon 8k, comparing visuals...

    Out the box in default mode the cam looks good

    Then shows the camera in a setting called c-log 3 cinema gamut, and that looks like the filter I hate to see in vrp, looks movie-ish, like the contrast is to low and colors don't pop. Can't stand that filter...

    But anyways, I was thinking if it's the same canon yall using rest it to default mode. Just a thought

    Also he's got this video, he goes into great details about the settings

    https://youtu.be/67PCpqvgpXU

    Was interesting to watch, even tho I'm not a director or anything...

    But the default setting I think would look good 👍
    Can't stand that c-log 3 cinema gamut, it looked like thats what yall used on that Mean Girls scene, and that's how NA scenes would look like too. Low contrast with colors not popping out.

    What yall did here in this scene with the picture setting/filter was perfect
    The Geeks are Cumming - Fucking Sexy Classmate Leana Lovings Ultra HD VR
    It's very crisp and colors popped out. 👌

    Anyways, just sum theories I had.

      g2kbuffetboy but I believe a lot of people are having issues with the 190 fisheye and not necessarily the rig itself

      As vr porn viwers do really need fish eye?
      I mean what does fish eye really do?
      If we're looking straight most the time do we need an extra if not that much more then 180 view on the sides, so many vr studios shoot with no fisheye and never have I seen a demand or request for them to shot fisheye. So is fisheye that important or in demand for vr porn? 🤷‍♂️

      Naught America use to shoot fish eye and they stopped long time ago. When I first started watching vrp I always wondered why they had cone heads, I was like this can't be right maybe they messed it up, wasn't till later I learned about fisheye here on slr.

      Vrsumo2017 I found this video on YouTube this guy showing off a Canon 8k, comparing visuals...

      Out the box in default mode the cam looks good

      Then shows the camera in a setting called c-log 3 cinema gamut, and that looks like the filter I hate to see in vrp, looks movie-ish, like the contrast is to low and colors don't pop. Can't stand that filter...

      C-log is not a filter. It’s a setting used in filming that allows you to capture more dynamic range. Most beneficial in tricky lighting conditions where there’s lots of shadows and bright highlights in the same shot.

      It isn’t meant to be used straight from the camera . Like you said, it looks very flat and dull. You need to do color grading in post to bring back the contrast and color saturation before exporting the final product.

      C-log by itself probably isn’t responsible for the look of some of the videos you don’t like. It’s just a tool videographers use when filming.

      Vrsumo2017

      Vrsumo2017 But anyways, I was thinking if it's the same canon yall using rest it to default mode. Just a thought

      No offense, but I do not think professionals need tips from someone watching a random youtube video and clearly has no idea about photography/videography.

      Vrsumo2017 Then shows the camera in a setting called c-log 3 cinema gamut, and that looks like the filter I hate to see in vrp, looks movie-ish, like the contrast is to low and colors don't pop. Can't stand that filter...

      Which is blatantly obvious not even knowing what C-Log is.

      Actually C-Log is way closer to what the camera sees in reality, and the standard mode is kinda what you call a filter to boost contrast/saturation.

      C-Log kinda is a substitute for RAW for videos, as most cameras even today can not handle true RAW when shooting videos, unlike what you do in photos. It is not meant to use C-Log for final videos, but as an input for the postprocessing pipeline to preserve as much information as possible from the actual scene without having actual RAW.

      The "standard" mode that you love so much looses a lot of DR and possibly also color accuracy while giving you this "pleasing to the eye" view.

      And frankly all VR videos of today show terrible DR when they shoot even a somewhat demanding scene with some outdoor content visible, and only very controlled lighting in studios can give DR in check that it looks good.

      So if they are not shooting C-Log (or something similar) it would be very welcome to do so and get a proper tonemapping in post. Maybe they are and current cameras are simply not capable of shooting such high DR, although hard to believe when I see what even my tiny RX100 can do when shooting LOG.

        ibins The "standard" mode that you love so much looses a lot of DR and possibly also color accuracy while giving you this "pleasing to the eye" view.

        If your talking about standard like in this scene

        The Geeks are Cumming - Fucking Sexy Classmate Leana Lovings Ultra HD VR

        If that's standard then give more of that! wasn't nothing wrong with it imo, picture looked very crisp, colors were great, scale was great/perfect. It's perfect! if there was any lose of anything due to it being standard then it was very unnoticeable, and that's the best I've seen Leana in vr out of all her vr scenes. 👍

        ibins clearly has no idea about photography/videography.

        I don't 🤷‍♂️ , but what is DR?

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          It would be nice to eventually get back to the 8k video. I was recently looking at some of the previous 6K videos on the zcam k2 which has more lifelike sizing but the visual quality was definitely not as good as the recent 8K which has much better visuals IMO but larger scaling. Using Pimax 8k x with 3080 ti on heresphere. Trade offs here I can see the pros and cons of each one. Too bad not everyone can be satisfied.

            justanotherone Meta quest2 still occupy the market which is not that good to watch 8k .Not everyone can afford the high price of pimax8k and a highend computer...

            doublevr changed the title to SLR Originals is getting back on Z̶c̶a̶m̶ ̶K̶2̶ ̶P̶r̶o̶ Canon 8K .
            doublevr changed the title to SLR Originals is getting back on ZCam K2 Pro .
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            I used to own the K2 pro and upgraded to the Canon r5 c and they are completely different FOV lenses and the R5 C should not be left in fisheye view, I don't understand why you keep publishing videos in fisheye, you have to convert to equirectangular to get proper 180 FOV.

              metichemsi other people using the Canon camera (VRHush and FuckpassVR) had the same scaling and distortion issues and they do not use the fisheye option.

                petermc I'll look through some of their scenes to see if I can see it. Not sure what conversion software or process those sites use but I'll try comparing scaling vs my own footage to see if I see a difference. Most likely have to do with the IPD difference between the two systems.

                doublevr t doesn't seem possible to get the right focus

                I was wondering what was wrong with some of the more recent SLRO videos. Some of them seem "fuzzy" for lack of a better term, because I don't know much about the technical stuff.

                fathergll great example, this whole debacle with the r5c seems to also have roots with their previous European team who sound like they screwed things up and are now gone. From what I have read so far it seems like the European team was filming 8k at 30fps and then leaving the footage in fisheye, quite possibly the worst way to watch content. They should have been filming in 60p and doing proper eqyirectangular conversions like in that scene. I also think that some or part of the decision might have also been from the fact that they have been working on their own custom 10k camera solution so investing on Canon and being locked in that ecosystem at this point might not have been the right long term goal. Just look at how long they were filming with the k2 pro, they will pick one camera system and stick with it for several years before another upgrade