SLR Originals is getting back to 8K Canon production

doublevr

~~It doesn't seem possible to get the right focus on Canon so we are moving back to ZCam K2 Pro. Also the scale is troubling~~

Edit back: back on Canon 8K production https://forum.sexlikereal.com/d/4927-hacked-8k-canon-footage-released

Mutiny

doublevr This was a tough call I'm sure — it's really frustrating to have to go backwards — but I think it's the right one for now. Maybe the crew can keep doing camera tests on the side.

petermc

doublevr I think that’s a smart decision. As much as you don’t want to go backwards, you need to perfect the new equipment before filming new scenes with it.

I personally didn’t have as big an issue with it as some, a few scenes aside, but when so many others are, that says there’s something wrong.

Hopefully producers can keep testing this stuff behind the scenes to figure out how to get the best results but I do remember Wankzvr, months ago, saying people would have scaling issues with this new camera unless their eyes are super close together.

LordCrash

doublevr
I can't say that I'm stoked about that. Feels like a step in the wrong direction.

hhigh88

doublevr unfortunate but that's the way it is. Hope you keep trying though, eventually we need to move towards 8k or higher.

Mutiny

ableman It sounds like it's purely a lens compatibility issue. I'd imagine the camera is recording a crystal clear version of a distorted image the lenses are providing.

stefanno

Weird i didn't notice the issues, and quality was great IMO. Hopefully that can be fixed

argyle43

Well as someone not ready to throw out my Go I’ll be very happy to be able to stream scenes again in DEO app. Scale has also been just slightly too large on the last several scenes, so I’ll be very pleased to get the perfection that we saw in the scenes prior to this rig. Celebrating here. 🥳🎉

mirdumar

Why is focus not a problem for VRHush and LethalHardcoreVR, both are using Canon camera?

LordCrash

mirdumar
Competence issue?

Maybe we should go back to 4k...

bacula8630

While I’m sure it wasn’t an easy decision, I think this is the right choice.

The fixed IPD of 60MM on the Canon VR lens just results in scale that is too large. While objects at medium to far distances look OK, anything within a couple of feet (prime distance for VR porn) look way too big.

Maybe Canon didn’t realize that creators would use their lens for VR Porn. Although I find that hard to believe. Most dudes use their VR headsets for Porn! 😜 Hopefully they’ll come out with a Mark II lens. Then you can revisit the R5C.

I think going back to the old rig is the best choice at this time.

g2kbuffetboy

I've given my thoughts on the SLR reddit thread, but I'll drop a line here too.

For me, the bump in visual picture quality is awesome in my Pimax 8KX. The new 8K videos are noticeably sharper and colors are better too. I really was excited when these new 8K canon videos started to rollout.

I will say the scale did increase some, but I believe a lot of people are having issues with the 190 fisheye and not necessarily the rig itself. So not all visual issues that people are complaining about are about the scale. Some of them are about the fisheye format and it not working properly for them. Of course people will be frustrated and complain if they can’t view the content correctly. That in itself is not a Canon issue.

Also, VRHush, LethalHardcore, and NaughtyAmerica are all shooting with the same canon (as far as I can tell), and I don't see many complaints for these videos, which also makes me believe that fisheye is at play when it comes to SLR.

Anyways, I say this only to encourage SLR to keep trying to perfect the new Canon rig. Yes, fine, revert to ZCAM for the immediate future, but simultaneously try to work behind the scenes with the Canon. Maybe do a few test shots and offer them up on the forum to see if any progress has made. Maybe try to conform them and not release them raw in fisheye mode to see if that makes any difference?

Just a few thoughts.

innol

g2kbuffetboy you are right

rerun119

g2kbuffetboy I also have a Pimax 8KX and to me all the videos are blurry around the edges. Its not even the the edges but it gets blurrier the farther you look from the middle of what the camera taped. Since you can just look around more in the pimax i start to get motion sick. To me the last camera was the best Image quality I have ever seen plus the scenes they shot with it. I would say the last 6 months before they switched the camera that that was the best run of video making any VR company as had. That's why to me it pained me so much to just stop and then just start all over with new company's and lenses. Please go back to perfection.

LordCrash

g2kbuffetboy For me, the bump in visual picture quality is awesome in my Pimax 8KX. The new 8K videos are noticeably sharper and colors are better too. I really was excited when these new 8K canon videos started to rollout.

This. I'm so fed up with all the people with their low-budget headsets and cheap players who claim that there wasn't a bump in visual quality. Even in my mid-tier G2 with HeresphereVR it's so damn obvious and I can only imagine how good it must look in a Pimax.

doublevr The Canon videos from other producers don't look good either

That's not true at all imho.

rerun119 To me the last camera was the best Image quality I have ever seen plus the scenes they shot with it. I would say the last 6 months before they switched the camera that that was the best run of video making any VR company as had. That's why to me it pained me so much to just stop and then just start all over with new company's and lenses. Please go back to perfection.

Which companies do you mean? I guarantee you that at least CzechVR and WankzVR look better and more crisp than 6k SLR. Nothing perfect about the old rig.

Vrsumo2017

g2kbuffetboy but I believe a lot of people are having issues with the 190 fisheye and not necessarily the rig itself

As vr porn viwers do really need fish eye?
I mean what does fish eye really do?
If we're looking straight most the time do we need an extra if not that much more then 180 view on the sides, so many vr studios shoot with no fisheye and never have I seen a demand or request for them to shot fisheye. So is fisheye that important or in demand for vr porn? 🤷‍♂️

Naught America use to shoot fish eye and they stopped long time ago. When I first started watching vrp I always wondered why they had cone heads, I was like this can't be right maybe they messed it up, wasn't till later I learned about fisheye here on slr.

Vrsumo2017

What exactly canon cam is this cuz most youtube videos doing reviews or uploading vr videos Its says 180° 8k dual fisheye lens but we uploading 200° for the new scenes? 🤔

And sum of these youtube videos look extra crisp.

innol

doublevr maybe it's the user's helmet that cause the problem why some people complain about it and others not?

AcenJay

This is a great decision. The recent SLR Originals which could have been epic were ruined by the scaling and focus, which was a big reason that was preventing me from pulling the trigger on a lifetime subscription. Listening to customer feedback and making hard but good decisions like this convinces me that it is OK to go ahead and invest in a lifetime subscription.

rygogoss

I'm sad to hear this. I don't think the camera is the issue. other studios use the same camera but dont have the weird stretched feeling. If i would guess it's the 190 FOV or some other processing. BTW I have 60 IPD and it looks too big especially for me vertically too. So the problem is not the IPD of the camera.

doublevr

The Canon videos from other producers don't look good either

mirdumar

doublevr
VRHush and LethalHardcoreVR new scenes look great to me.

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