Vrsumo2017 apparently not suitable for shooting porn
SLR Originals is getting back to 8K Canon production
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I found this video on YouTube this guy showing off a Canon 8k, comparing visuals...
Out the box in default mode the cam looks good
Then shows the camera in a setting called c-log 3 cinema gamut, and that looks like the filter I hate to see in vrp, looks movie-ish, like the contrast is to low and colors don't pop. Can't stand that filter...
But anyways, I was thinking if it's the same canon yall using rest it to default mode. Just a thought
Also he's got this video, he goes into great details about the settings
Was interesting to watch, even tho I'm not a director or anything...
But the default setting I think would look good
Can't stand that c-log 3 cinema gamut, it looked like thats what yall used on that Mean Girls scene, and that's how NA scenes would look like too. Low contrast with colors not popping out.
What yall did here in this scene with the picture setting/filter was perfect
The Geeks are Cumming - Fucking Sexy Classmate Leana Lovings Ultra HD VR
It's very crisp and colors popped out.
Anyways, just sum theories I had.
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g2kbuffetboy but I believe a lot of people are having issues with the 190 fisheye and not necessarily the rig itself
As vr porn viwers do really need fish eye?
I mean what does fish eye really do?
If we're looking straight most the time do we need an extra if not that much more then 180 view on the sides, so many vr studios shoot with no fisheye and never have I seen a demand or request for them to shot fisheye. So is fisheye that important or in demand for vr porn?
Naught America use to shoot fish eye and they stopped long time ago. When I first started watching vrp I always wondered why they had cone heads, I was like this can't be right maybe they messed it up, wasn't till later I learned about fisheye here on slr.
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Vrsumo2017 I found this video on YouTube this guy showing off a Canon 8k, comparing visuals...
Out the box in default mode the cam looks good
Then shows the camera in a setting called c-log 3 cinema gamut, and that looks like the filter I hate to see in vrp, looks movie-ish, like the contrast is to low and colors don't pop. Can't stand that filter...
C-log is not a filter. It’s a setting used in filming that allows you to capture more dynamic range. Most beneficial in tricky lighting conditions where there’s lots of shadows and bright highlights in the same shot.
It isn’t meant to be used straight from the camera . Like you said, it looks very flat and dull. You need to do color grading in post to bring back the contrast and color saturation before exporting the final product.
C-log by itself probably isn’t responsible for the look of some of the videos you don’t like. It’s just a tool videographers use when filming.
Vrsumo2017 But anyways, I was thinking if it's the same canon yall using rest it to default mode. Just a thought
No offense, but I do not think professionals need tips from someone watching a random youtube video and clearly has no idea about photography/videography.
Vrsumo2017 Then shows the camera in a setting called c-log 3 cinema gamut, and that looks like the filter I hate to see in vrp, looks movie-ish, like the contrast is to low and colors don't pop. Can't stand that filter...
Which is blatantly obvious not even knowing what C-Log is.
Actually C-Log is way closer to what the camera sees in reality, and the standard mode is kinda what you call a filter to boost contrast/saturation.
C-Log kinda is a substitute for RAW for videos, as most cameras even today can not handle true RAW when shooting videos, unlike what you do in photos. It is not meant to use C-Log for final videos, but as an input for the postprocessing pipeline to preserve as much information as possible from the actual scene without having actual RAW.
The "standard" mode that you love so much looses a lot of DR and possibly also color accuracy while giving you this "pleasing to the eye" view.
And frankly all VR videos of today show terrible DR when they shoot even a somewhat demanding scene with some outdoor content visible, and only very controlled lighting in studios can give DR in check that it looks good.
So if they are not shooting C-Log (or something similar) it would be very welcome to do so and get a proper tonemapping in post. Maybe they are and current cameras are simply not capable of shooting such high DR, although hard to believe when I see what even my tiny RX100 can do when shooting LOG.
ibins The "standard" mode that you love so much looses a lot of DR and possibly also color accuracy while giving you this "pleasing to the eye" view.
If your talking about standard like in this scene
The Geeks are Cumming - Fucking Sexy Classmate Leana Lovings Ultra HD VR
If that's standard then give more of that! wasn't nothing wrong with it imo, picture looked very crisp, colors were great, scale was great/perfect. It's perfect! if there was any lose of anything due to it being standard then it was very unnoticeable, and that's the best I've seen Leana in vr out of all her vr scenes.
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ibins clearly has no idea about photography/videography.
I don't , but what is DR?
Is this still the company plan?
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It would be nice to eventually get back to the 8k video. I was recently looking at some of the previous 6K videos on the zcam k2 which has more lifelike sizing but the visual quality was definitely not as good as the recent 8K which has much better visuals IMO but larger scaling. Using Pimax 8k x with 3080 ti on heresphere. Trade offs here I can see the pros and cons of each one. Too bad not everyone can be satisfied.
justanotherone Meta quest2 still occupy the market which is not that good to watch 8k .Not everyone can afford the high price of pimax8k and a highend computer...
I used to own the K2 pro and upgraded to the Canon r5 c and they are completely different FOV lenses and the R5 C should not be left in fisheye view, I don't understand why you keep publishing videos in fisheye, you have to convert to equirectangular to get proper 180 FOV.
metichemsi other people using the Canon camera (VRHush and FuckpassVR) had the same scaling and distortion issues and they do not use the fisheye option.
petermc I'll look through some of their scenes to see if I can see it. Not sure what conversion software or process those sites use but I'll try comparing scaling vs my own footage to see if I see a difference. Most likely have to do with the IPD difference between the two systems.
petermc This is true but I have also seen some excellent work with the R5C with correct scaling, so it is possible to get it correct(though possible it's more limiting over 64 IPD cameras )
For example watch this scene from Fuckpass https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/that-happened-in-vegas-31111
fathergll great example, this whole debacle with the r5c seems to also have roots with their previous European team who sound like they screwed things up and are now gone. From what I have read so far it seems like the European team was filming 8k at 30fps and then leaving the footage in fisheye, quite possibly the worst way to watch content. They should have been filming in 60p and doing proper eqyirectangular conversions like in that scene. I also think that some or part of the decision might have also been from the fact that they have been working on their own custom 10k camera solution so investing on Canon and being locked in that ecosystem at this point might not have been the right long term goal. Just look at how long they were filming with the k2 pro, they will pick one camera system and stick with it for several years before another upgrade
metichemsi I wasn't aware they were filming in 30FPS though SLR does interpolate to 60 FPS so that may have been part of the issue but KinkygirlsBerlin filmed in 8K 30fps because they used the R5 and they didn't have big issues(though not ideal to interpolate)
The biggest SLR Original R5C issues early on were the fisheye like you said and #1 was the scenes appeared out of focus which I don't know if it was from user error or lens issue. This was their first R5C scene https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/big-tits-at-the-glory-hole-26692?tab=downloads
Apparently, they have remastered this which I haven't viewed yet but from 11 months ago they commented " SLR Originals - Evan, Head of Post-production 11 months ago
yes, I agreed, this scene is slightly out of focus, we need some time to handle this new camera. "
But yes equirectangular conversions is such an important thing along with the age old challenge of placing the camera and model just the right distance which is something that has been always a challenge for all studios(though some are more consistent that others). R5C is probably more critical to get all of these things aligned precisely. Other challenged I have seen with the R5C is that Canon Raw Light can be extremely noisy if not used with certain settings. It's a known issue and some theorized that Netflix rejected the R5C from their Netflix certification because of the RAW. NaughtyAmerica is using the R5C and their early releases with it were completely unwatchable because the entire thing was noise(they corrected much of that since)
Definitely a challenging camera from what we've seen. WankzVR and StripZVR commented they wouldn't use this camera because of the IPD but there seems to be ways of making it work.