2025 Production: Innovation v Viewer Expectations

doublevr

Avakian i really don't like the angles for most of SLR JAV

Rustam1990

I am not sure what you mean by unexpected. You are right in saying the current "formula" is quite vanilla or "feels the same", but I think SLRO VR scenes can be improved just by being more "immersive" and less reserved with what you can do with the current equipment than being "unexpected" or "unpredictable".

Take a page out of the JAVVR book:

Intimacy - lengthy cuddling, pre and post sex. Ear licking, whispering. Lengthy kissing not just a misplaced peck on the lips. Even though they speak a language I cannot comprehend it still feels hot.
Fetish - Squirting into camera, spit in mouth, soap, taboo... Hardcore Stepmom, a recent taboo/fetish scene by SLRO was excellent (minus the non-POV). More of that.
Use of props/extras - makes the scene feel more real. Have a girl feed you food. Have extras acting as parents/colleagues/strangers... Set the scene up to build sexual tension.
Nonstandard positions - OK not JAV but VRPlayful at least tried to experiment with unusual positions
More varied scenarios: check JAVtrailers to have an idea what the current VR scenes are like. Massage parlours, succubus, your private tutor, a trip with your colleagues/stepmum to the spa... Revive the "Scenarios" section in the forum and actively listen to your customers like what we did successfully with Modern Relationship.

These are elements that are not "unexpected" but work super duper well for VR. No need to reinvent the wheel. If SLRO can do these things (they have tried exploring some in the past) already the scenes would already be a big improvement.

fenderwq

doublevr I think the problem is that users in the west expect all positions in every scene every time. This makes it hard to do new things.

Look at Jav, you'll get good variety per scene but not every position. Not even in those multi hour scenes. This leaves more room for experimentation and novel ideas. JAV has the scene length advantage though making it easier to take your time to do an idea well I stead of 2 minutes of intro or filler before getting back to the formula because everything needs to be crammed in to satisfy every user.

If we want variety we should stop complaining about every scene needing everything all the time.

fenderwq

As a side note. I love the creativity of JAV. Not everything is great and there are formulas in there too but there is soo much untapped potential there.

When it comes down to it JAV usually really commits to doing a concept. In the west the concept usually feels more like a gimmick on top of the formula. Of course there are exceptions to every rule.

alphaRonaldo

I've noticed few if any studios try POV-VR without the fixed cam(cam moving with male talent's face). JAV does experiment here but it's still in its infancy, restricted to 4K or 6K at best. Hardly anything from SLRO side. Fact is that you're never restricted to fixed positions, angles, lack of hardcore action and you get all the variety you've ever wanted. It is the ultimate level of immersion IMHO. Some of the best scenes i've seen have come from this, yet it's a rarity.
I get that fixing all that equipment on the male talent's head is no easy feat, but it's the sureshot way VR can grow leaving this vanilla phase.

Hairsational

doublevr First half of the post was good but then it became buzzword soup with another flat porn sales pitch.

Few, if any, people here care about flat when there is VR. Bringing flat porn does nothing to highlight what makes SLR stand out from the masses of generic non-VR porn sites out there either.

Personally I don't think much needs to change with positions. Alex Nash could make some small tweaks to really perfect certain positions, but otherwise POV is good and the limited positions are fine. There could be more creativity in the scenarios and sets though.

fuccaneer

I'm wondering if the stats SLR sees in the background actually support any of these varied assertions or whether its just a response to the vocal minority.
Or is it the visible tip of an unspoken iceberg of dissatisfaction--hence the question of whether the stats actually show any downtrends.

Of course, there's always a third option: confirmation bias.

doublevr

fuccaneer personally for me vr porn is too much predictable scene to scene, cast to cast. I want to bring unexpected and wondering what's next.

But how can you do it if you are expected to deliver fixed angle positions and everyone else is doing the same

xeddin1

doublevr
Don't read too much into the comments. You have thousands of people wanting different things. No matter what you make, someone will be disappointed. Go with your gut, it's what got you this far.

fenderwq

doublevr I really think much more things could be done to spice up variety even in fixed camera and pov just not in static scene length and cramming in every position every time. That just makes it the same scene with a different girl and a different outfit a lot of the time.

Jimmyjon66

doublevr Too me this whole point seems like a cop out and an excuse. At the end of the day what I and many other people are saying isn’t anything impossible or stuff SLR hasn’t already executed in the past. What we mean by variation is different settings/ environments and premises. These examples show this variation..

And to virtually say you’re limited by the same fixed pov angles and positions, why when there are other studios experimenting and getting the camera angles to display piledriver position or front facing spooning. It absolutely can be done and there’s no need to rely on 2D to achieve it or learn from it.

And just mix up the male talent please, not every video has to be John Strong. SLR had variation of male talent in the past some BWC and BBC, what happened?

rerun119

doublevr personally for me vr porn is too much predictable scene to scene, cast to cast. I want to bring unexpected and wondering what's next.

But how can you do it if you are expected to deliver fixed angle positions and everyone else is doing the same

I agree with you about predictable scene to scene and cast to cast but not about the fixed angles part.

SLR has shot a few scenes in the big looking house where we sit on the couch looking at the kitchen. This is the same exact couch every time.
You could start the scene at the table with the girl making you dinner. That is different and has been done by other studios. She could feed you food and play with your cock while telling you how much she loves you.

You could start the scene standing in the kitchen while she is doing the dishes. She could tell you she is going to be doing chores for a while and if you need some action then you are going to have to do her doggy while she continues wishing the dishes.

There are tons of things that can be done with the same houses and the same camera placements but make them different and unexpected and hot.

Vrsumo2017

doublevr immersion dictates specific camera positions and viewpoints

Yeah bro but that's for pov, shoot more non pov!
The pov that we as vr users use is great bro, it's improved a lot over the years, room for improvement? Sure but pov porn is great right now and there's so much of it, some viewers are Afraid more non pov will stop production of regular pov and that's not true, there will always be pov, but let's start producing non pov! More vlog type of content in vr, porn flicks, more non pov! We're going to see more movies being filmed in vr by Apple or meta, or some big movie production, should start doing that in the porn industry now.

Let's get creative!

I remember one video had these Easter bunny's, hotties with bikinis and mask, running around in a back yard playing fortnite, for a short porn scene that was pretty entertaining and fun to watch.

More non pov will help the creativity, imo.

Oh bro, you said
"VR production simply can't match all the variety and greatness of flat."

I disagree, start shooting more non pov, then it will start matching up to all the variety and greatness of flat 2d.

"Just do it" don't listen to "non believers" lol.

It will be awesome!

I'm ready to see our favorites vr hotties get smashed...

Bro on the real a lot of vr hotties I've never seen get smashed, I mean there's tad pole and porno Dan they be booking vr hotties, but the quality and lack of beefy studs smashing our favorite vr hotties is noticeable.

SLR Ghostbusters parody was great, had lil bit of both non and pov, Tru was getting smash by three tall beefy studs and John, lol I'm playing, John dose great work, in great shape too 😄, I use to hate his pov because I always felt the cam was to close like i didn't have a full body, I assumed he had a short torso, but they pulling back the cam more so he's good now👍

I might of went on to long but, vrp needs more non pov!👍

There's literally vr content jumping out of planes sky diving and people are sky diving with you.

I'm just saying 🤷

Hey bro, yall ever seen vrmotion on jillvr? Really great content 👏 kinda like vrqueens and twerk videos but it's different, really cool content. I be finding sum awesome content on Jill and deo. I wanna see more vlogish type of content for vrp.

And can we get more vrcamgirls to make content? I want to see popular tiktok dances preformed by some naughty hotties! would be awesome! 🥂

OK 🤐

harigeharry

xeddin1 This is an interesting comment. Why not use it? Why not make some polls here among regular users to see what they want? For example, in my opinion there should never be any male fucking back in a PT scene, since this causes the 'floating dick syndrome' in PT. At best the viewer can try to imitate the movement but this will never be successful since it's impossible to mimic movement 100% correctly, resulting in immersion breaking. However this still happens in a lot of PT video's And I actually saw a forum user who seemed to like it. So why not make a simple poll on it 'should there be male fucking back in PT or not' and see what the majority likes. This at least is interesting info, right?

hypertsunaz

xeddin1 Unfortunately his gut has gotten things wrong before i.e SLR JAV Originals, controversial directors, etc.

Hairsational

harigeharry I can see how the male fucking back would be bad in PT, but for non-PT I much prefer him to be fucking back otherwise scenes are crazy boring.

Vrsumo2017

harigeharry should never be any male fucking back in a PT scene

I hate that bro, I like more hardcore, gets kinda boring if guy just there like dildo, I once suggested cut hands out so dude can smack ass cheeks, but no one wanna try it, 🤷‍♂️

But no, I like male models to fuck back, and hands on. And I want the guy to talk, talk dirty to her direct shit for her say...tell me your a Lil cum slut, she proceeds to say it.

My preference in vr porn is way different then most. I want more non pov! 👍

xeddin1

So, you prove me correct. As what you want was contested.
As for the polls...Go ahead make one.

Vrsumo2017

Hairsational I can see how the male fucking back would be bad

Its not bro. We need more fucking back in pt! 👍

Hurto11

None of this matters unless you get better, more high profile attractive stars in the scenes

jommy

Hurto11 None of this matters unless you get better, more high profile attractive stars in the scenes

Attraction is relative and being high profile is not always best if they've been used in many scenes already, it's repetitive talent

Unless you're talking about bringing people into VR for the first time then yeah totally

nicklittle135

personally imho SLR top the immersive experience in VR overall sites.

to suddenly add 2d would dilute what this VR experience and future is all about.
unless, of course, you keep the same amount of new vr releases and have a left plane slider option for those that want 2d.
like the JAV slider...
re. Jav l personally cant see the point of censored stuff in the 1st place. its not porn.

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