2025 Production: Innovation v Viewer Expectations

...okay, it's perfectly possible to do a non-immersion tracking shot in VR, as demonstrated by VRSUN and others in the 'vouyer' dept, but i've yet to see anyone try to film people fucking with one. Boom, there's an idea.

Obviously JAV have (i assume) already done it, but i think by now it should be perfectly obvious that the meta is:

JAV have already done everything first, and all we need to do is blatantly copy them.

Which is exactly how all great art works. You copy the people that are successful that came before, develop your own style, and innovate your own path forwards.

What @xeddin1 says about following gut is absolutely true. It's easy to copy everyone else, and it's inevitable when innovating that you fuck up. Over and over again. But true talent, and creativity, isn't a flash in the pan, it's a long hard slog, 99% perspiration, and a harsh tide of criticism, from people who have their faces turned to the past. Expect to be hated for producing great art. Don't expect to be understood. But do enjoy the rush.

So yeah, i'm happy for SLR to make some truly bad mistakes, because the more chaos, the more creation.

And there's probably a circle jerk of confirmation bias going on with this very forum, in that there's not a great many of us here (out of SLR user base), and that would imply we're a certain type of people (opinionated twats who can't resist forums...) and thus aren't representative of the actually current user base, maybe we're more... vociferous?

i dunno.

Opinionated vociferous twat signing out...

doublevr As we are discussing with SLR directors future steps of bringing something new we get stuck with basic principles of how things work in VR. Getting all the cool intros and themes is easy, it's hardcore parts making things difficult.

Personally i think you guys do the hardcore stuff really well already. For me it's the intros, themes, sets, and story scripts that you guys could improve on the most. Put more effort into cool storylines and you can create some really magical scenes. A lot of studios are falling into the formulaic scenes now where the only thing that truly changes from one scene to the next is the girl.

Add more cosplay, especially sci fi, and have storylines that the actress can kind of call back to when she's whispering in my ear. The cosplay/scifi scenes you guys used to do were really really good

Use sets with different lighting. Lately it seems like most scenes are shot in the living room at noon. A GFE scene at night next to a fireplace would be awesome IMO.

Here's some scenes you have done in the past with different lighting that i really liked:
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/making-it-up-to-you-16390
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/blake-blossom-avatars-in-action-16257?t=454
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/give-the-devil-his-due-22236?t=566
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/as-seen-on-tv-21181?t=2194
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/the-hardest-of-hard-23752

Anyways, you guys are already doing great work, but it's cool that you're still looking to improve.

alkory People tend to be subjective, whereas the number of likes provides a more accurate measure.

hypertsunaz People should read this one

alkory Agree. I'm going to assume that a lot of the people watching VR porn only have a limited amount of time. They don't know all the studios.
I think a lot of people see a screenshot art picture on the homepage of a scene and decide that way. The (whatever its called) picture that the studio puts for their scene makes a huge difference.
That is why SLR changes the picture so they can see which one gets more clicks. It will look one way for a week and then they will change it.
IMO VrSpy has a better picture art than VRPlayful. Plus for me english is important. That's 2 strikes against VRPlayful but still way better.

Adrianvr I'm sure likes are a somewhat indicator but...
I once saw a scene pop up onto SLR in the first couple minutes. It had more "hearts" than actual views. People heart a scene before they ever watch them so that it gets put into their favorites. It's the only way you can do it from the home screen with one button push.
People see a really pretty girl in a good looking picture and heart it. This doesn't mean the scene is good. I have tons of hearted terrible scenes.
The better number is hearts to views %

...i think all metrics need to be read and considered, likes, views, hearts, subscriptions rates, download rates, comments, opinions, etc. And still it's a guessing game.

The more you experiment, the more you will learn...

I think a big issue that can make the videos feel repetitive is how the models speak and behave. It really doesn't matter what the scenario is, or the character the girl is playing, in most scenes from most studios the girls just behave like they are in a porno and speak with the most stereotypical porno talk imaginable. Every other word is fuck, and its a lot of the same exact phrases in every scene. "Your fucking cock is stretching my pussy out", etc. That type of language works for scenes where its appropriate, but when its a sweet girl-next-door scene, GFE scene, etc, it really just feels repetitive and out of place.

I personally think SLR Originals had its best scenes when it first started, mainly due to the variety of scenarios, intimate lighting, positions/camera angles used & there was a certain 'intensity' - it felt more decadent/alluring overall

NovaShadow

Just sort the scenes by new and go to page 13-15, "Golden Era" with frequent FF+Ms. Now there's the occasional (I would even say rare) excellent scene, but unfortunately there's no comparison to back then.

Rustam1990 Yeah that was before Alex Nash started making cookie cutter scenes

doublevr listening to user feedback

I have one request, pov is in a good space right now, camera position is less of a problem, wouldn't change anything, but what I'd like to see added to the pov category, I'd like to see headcam pov, similar to koalavr, he does great work BTW! But his style of headcam works great, I watch this content and can only imagine what our favorite pornstar hotties would be like with the headcam pov content, will be fun.

But yeah, pov is great right now, all studios are killing it right now with the POV...

now let's focus on non pov, and try headcam pov like koalavr and film vlog style/tiktok content! Will be great!

Can't forget PT! PTGANG!

Lol that pt is something else!

doublevr greatly boost out VR production.

Content is king!

@doublevr I see the dilemma which you are facing. It is a competitive market and growth is probably becoming difficult. The majority of customers tends to immerse themselves in more realistic scenarios, and that’s a bedroom GFE Setting with some casual poses in POV. Something which is already filmed thousands of times. And this isn’t something where you can really experiment or change much. The dilemma is that every experiment and change in that pattern will make some users very happy, but the majority will not prefer it, so the return of investment will not be that great, unless you really find the next big thing which everyone wants but nobody knows it yet. I honestly wish you good luck in finding that thing. Don’t stop in being innovative, but a hybrid strategy in perfecting things which are known that they work and testing innovations and doing experiments is the way to go.

flo if you just try to please your existing customers, you don’t get growth. You need to do different types of scenes to attract new customers. It’s fine to continue to produce the GFE stuff so as not to alienate your subscribers but that shouldn’t be all you produce. People who watch flat porn are used to seeing more variety and you’ll never entice them over here with just purely girlfriend simulations. Making sweet love to your girlfriend has never been what porn is about.