Okay folks, this is serious - No Alcohol, No drugs, No Nonconsensual

@doublevr this brings up a few interesting questions. If the data is segregated to regionally appropriate areas (i.e. JAV content with JAV appropriate scenes being hosted in Japan where these genres considered taboo elsewhere are culturally appropriate) would that be sufficient for payment processors that primarily operate in that region? Or because SLR is a global brand it needs to be a superset of all the most stringent rules globally?

Where there is ambiguity there is opportunity. SLR likes to solve problems and push the tech forward (I see it more as a tech company producing content rather than a content company producing tech). Why not create a division to work with all the ISPs and payment processors to agree on a very detailed list of what exactly is and isn’t allowed to standardize for the porn industry, reduce ambiguity, and promote compliance. Be the ISO for porn. Consulting payments and renewals for compliance on every other porn producer to standardize i’d imagine could be highly lucrative. Just a thought.

What I also don’t get is, who is checking on this stuff for the banks/billing providers? There’s an almost infinite number of porn sites. Who has the manpower to watch every second of every porn scene on every site in the world to see if someone swallows a bit of piss or there’s an alcoholic drink in the shot. It’s impossible.

There’s porn sites with the word ‘piss’ in the title of the site. Pissplay.com is pretty much 100% piss drinking scenes and they don’t attempt to hide it. Surely that’s the first site you’d check if you were closing sites down for that?

That’s the thing I’ve never understood, if these are standardised rules for all porn sites that use credit card billing, why is there such inconsistency between what sites are allowed to show?

I will stress, as I’ve said before, that SLR have every right to be as risk averse as they want to be. I get that they can’t afford to lose access to credit card billing and don’t blame them for doing what they’re doing. I’ve just never understood why other sites are able to operate without these restrictions if the credit card companies are so hot on this stuff.

Polar if I have purchased content that potentially falls into a JAV category that could get pulled, do I lose that since there’s no download option?

Polar There was a discussion on the forum recently about "stepfamily" content. Both card networks have an explicit ban on depictions of incest which leads to the "step" modifier being used... liberally. But we also understand that some people are really into daddy or mommy talk without the step modifier being used. That can happen, the scene just needs to be presented as being a sugardaddy or sugarmommy scenario instead.

Does that mean girls can’t say “daddy” in stepdad scenes anymore even after it’s been clearly shown earlier in the scene that it’s a step relationship?

petermc Does that mean girls can’t say “daddy” in stepdad scenes anymore even after it’s been clearly shown earlier in the scene that it’s a step relationship?

Honestly, the studios should just substitute the word "sir" in there instead. Anyone wanting to fantasize about a daddy kink could, and the folks who don't like that could just imagine the sir means boss or something else.
It seems the payment processors are hung up on the word "dad/daddy", which is stupid but it is what it is, but you could make some pretty intense scenes using the word "sir" instead. Dad/Daddy would be unspoken but implied through context. That would get rid of the stupid "step" talk as well.

BML5768 Sir just doesn’t hit in the same way. It works similarly I suppose in a sub/dom scenario but when you’re wanting to watch incest storylines in porn, it’s not the same.

BML5768 studios should just substitute the word "sir"

For the love of god, SLR, please ignore this suggestion. Better doing away with it altogether than have scenes sexualizing the word “sir”

Sperson Your JAV suggestion would require SLR getting a local Japanese biller, but said biller would probably reject the site if the usage is going to be mainly foreign cards because the site would have to comply with global rules. As I noted above, statistically if certain JAV was removed, it will probably be content not many are watching, not the popular releases.

petermc Some billers use global crawlers to locate non-compliant terms plus random compliance checks (logging in, accessing random movies, etc.). You are right that they can't patrol for everything and they don't. A legit site like SLR though will always err on the side of caution to avoid any potential issues rather than keep trying to push the envelope to suddenly discover no processing ability one day.

Avakian Swallow the Sun (your avatar). A man with taste.

ZENRA sorry, I may not have asked the question clearly. I wasn’t suggesting anything, I was asking if data was segregated in regional subsidiaries would that be sufficient for regional payment processors. Similar to hosting all EU customer data in EU to be GDPR compliant but rest of the world can operate normally hosted in other regions.
Either way sounds like you answered that it still wouldn’t work.

PS. Did someone delete the original question?

Sperson I see, but yes, it won't work. Visa/MC rules are global. My theory as to why JAV can do what it does is because JCB owns the nationwide processing network. No other way to really explain how they can produce and easily sell content that would receive anti compliance ban hammers right away elsewhere.

petermc Sir just doesn’t hit in the same way. It works similarly I suppose in a sub/dom scenario but when you’re wanting to watch incest storylines in porn, it’s not the same.

Sure, but "step" doesn't hit the same either, and apparently any daddy talk is going to get banned eventually. Any other ideas?