Trying to catch up on this thread so bear with me:
petermc If I came off as in anyway hostile, that was not my intent. I totally get where your perception has come from. Like I said, of the insignificant number of ultra-socially conservative Christians don't control the banks, but I get why you say that you were always taught "it's the right-wingers' fault": The people in power want you to constantly blame the right-wing and Christians for everything you don't like. It's been that way during my entire 36 years of existence and shit hasn't changed. Take "violent video games make kids violent," for example. This happened in the 90's and you will no doubt be taught this was a thing because "evil right wingers tried to stop video games." The reality was it's the same, maybe 80,000 at the time, right wing ultra-socially conservatives with no political or financial power that complained. Their feckless complaints didn't amount to anything. But the reality is the ones who championed the cause with political and financial power were Joe Lieberman, Tipper Gore and Hillary Clinton. Those who spearheaded the movement against video games before telling you to Pokemon Go to the poles were all Democrats. Once those with actual power got involved, that's when things changed; that's when the ESRB was created, etc. But the records say "right wing lawyer Jack Thompson in the 2000's." as if this low level nutjob lawyer had any pull. He didn't. The video game regulation came in from Democrats a DECADE BEFORE anybody had ever of Jack Thompson. "Because this guy with no power said games were bad in the 2000's caused regulation on gaming in the 90's." But that's the story we're told.
This shit isn't any different. It's always portrayed one way when the reality of it is usually buried.
LordCrash Maybe don't vote for the fucking idiots who go against your porn on the ballot next time.
We don't vote for CEOs and board members of the banks. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
LordCrash Do you guys even know what "liberal" actually means? No wonder the US is so fucked up right now with such abysmal political education...
That's fair, but that's an issue across the English speaking world. The Left hasn't been liberal for a long time. Liberalism is the rights of the individual ahead of the group; opposite of Socialism.
LordCrash Maybe you talk about ultra hardcore feminists or whatever but the huge majority of progressives is pretty ok with porn.
Cool. The right watches porn too. They want to keep it out of schools, but other than that, the overwhelming majority are not trying to stop you from doing whatever you want. The Leftists who are in charge of the banks, however, as well as the media btw, really hate porn and guns and anything that doesn't go along with the "hardcore feminist" agenda (which isn't even accurate label btw because TERFs aren't too happy with the Left's agenda either). The only liberal persons left on the planet are Libertarians and Ancaps, neither of which want regulation of porn.
LordCrash It doesn't matter who's in place as long as there are conservative biggots being out there using a ridiculous lawsuit system in their favor.
Nobody of power is suing the banks to stop porn, especially on the right. The only thing that could scare the banks are cancel culture and those agendas are promoted by the Left, especially one in particular who happens to live in Eastern Europe.
LordCrash There are no huge scandals in Eastern Europe. It's not because there are not cases of underage porn or human trafficing
True, there's tons of both, even more than the US, but you don't hear about it because nobody gives a shit about human trafficking or cp in Eastern Europe. People don't care unless it happens to their family members and there's no way to hold anybody accountable over there so people do as they please. There is no recourse when people have wronged you. You have my full agreement on that.
LordCrash The whole issue is a 100% American one and you guys apply your fucked up systems to the whole world, thanks for that.
This can only be true if your entire economy is heavily dependent on America. China doesn't really have these same concerns because they are not entirely dependent on their relations with the US. Even if your misplaced blame was valid, it's entirely of your own doing or lack thereof for yourself by not being independent.
Things will never change so long as those with the actual power are never held accountable. If one keeps blaming those without power until those with power change things... well, here we are.