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  • Okay folks, this is serious - No Alcohol, No drugs, No Nonconsensual

And everything else that is not cool.

Simply put there are rules by banks, billings, MasterCard and Visa and all the other institutions you have to comply with in order to stay in business. Most of porn companies play relatively successful whack-a-mole game going from one company to another while we wont to establish a solid foundation and make SLR a great place for everyone. Tell you what. Banks get shut, companies get shut for a reason and we do not want to be a part of that. We have no say in this game.

The worst thing is that we don't even know those exact rules, especially since every other company have their own rules and what is more important their own way to interpret the rules. Yet we have an idea what it is all about and trying to do our best to make it work for everyone.

SLR is about getting the best of grown people having consensual sex.

It also means there will be:

  • no alcohol, even if passive on the scene. We will try to re-edit or blur where possible to keep the scene live.
  • stop words have to stay completely out of the site. We would have to replace those with ***** in comments and will mark these as "This post was automatically moderated to comply with website policies". Because there are crawlers checking SLR 24/7 for those.
    -no guns, no knifes, nothing forced or non-consensual
  • no drugs, hypnosis or anything.
  • pissing is ok, but no pee drinking.
  • JAV is in trouble

We are already working on these. We can't disclose our exact policies, but we will do our best to communicate things with our community and creators.

My vision is that pairing VR+haptics makes it so great that you don't really want any crazy shit any more like it is on tubes now.

    To give a little more background, both of the major card networks have a fairly short list of banned practices, as well as a much wider ban on anything that would bring that card network into disrepute by being associated with it. The penalties for banks who process such "brand damaging transactions" are significant, and that tends to mean they will err on the side of caution.

    So that short list gets pretty long and pretty broad.

    To give a real example, a few years ago some billers banned vampire fantasy content. The logical progression was that the card networks both ban depictions of non-consensual mutilation, so it's safer to ban all depictions of mutilation, which was expanded to a total prohibition on showing any blood, so you can't have vampires.

    Similarly someone who is drunk, or drugged, or hypnotised, or asleep cannot consent to sexual activity, so depictions of these activities, even when it is clearly fantasy, are not allowed.

    You may be aware that VISA is currently being sued alongside the operator of a major tube site for profiting from illegal material. The banking industry is on high alert.

    To be clear, we're not out to kink shame, and us not being able to host certain content is not a moral judgement about that content or those who enjoy it. Wherever possible we will try to work to keep content compliant and online.

    There was a discussion on the forum recently about "stepfamily" content. Both card networks have an explicit ban on depictions of incest which leads to the "step" modifier being used... liberally. But we also understand that some people are really into daddy or mommy talk without the step modifier being used. That can happen, the scene just needs to be presented as being a sugardaddy or sugarmommy scenario instead.

    We want to bring everyone the content they love, and we genuinely appreciate how the passion of the community shows in the forum and comments.

    We will continue to push things forward and make SLR a place where you can explore, experiment, and improve your sexual wellness.

      doublevr What do you mean by 'stop words'? I am asking because there is a definition of this term which in my view does not make sense in this context. Hope this does not mean we will have to watch conversations between consenting adults like 'I want you to beep my pretty little beephole, beepdaddy' 😃

          Does this mean you’re going back and re-editing some scenes to make them compliant?

            doublevr

            Thanks for the reply.

            Might have to go back and download some of my favorites. Just in case the original version goes away. 😉

              I'd applied to do some scriptwriting work for another site a while back and the list of restrictions lined up almost exactly with this - no drugs or alcohol, no violence, you can't even have weapons visible or as part of a costume, no matter what scenario you come up with, the eventual sex must be consensual.

              We've known for a while that payment processors basically run the porn industry but I'm still not entirely sure what they're so afraid of. Triple penetration is okay but a shot glass sitting on a far away table isn't. Is there a high number of very specific people complaining that the porn they watch isn't moral enough?

                petergriff in current economy everyone is afraid of banks. Basically these are run now by huge investment funds and those are really conservative fucks. If banks want their money they have to be compliant with all the stupid things they want

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                    I don't why you said that JAV is in trouble. In fact, it seems like you guys are becoming more JAVy.

                    However, I have one request. It would be great if you could give us a heads up 2 or 3 days before any scenes are removed for re-editing. Maybe you could create a temporary niche or a countdown on the site for scenes that are about to be removed. I don't think this goes against the policies of the banks you're working with, and it would really help us keep track of our favorite scenes.

                      [deleted] I don't why you said that JAV is in trouble. In fact, it seems like you guys are becoming more JAVy.

                      JAV scenes tend to use a lot of taboo themes. Which might not go over well with the banks. That being said, maybe the JAV industry has a slightly different relationship with banks. Because I don’t see much in the way of change on their part.

                          petergriff but I'm still not entirely sure what they're so afraid of.

                          Political pressure. The government regulates banks.

                          A faction on the left believes that ALL porn is exploitive and non-consensual and contributes to sex trafficking; also, even when it's not, it is a slippery slope that leads to exploitation and other evils.

                          A faction on the right, mostly religious zealots, largely agree with those on the left PLUS believe that porn is a sin the same way that sex outside of marriage is a sin.

                          These groups can put enough pressure on elected officials to get the elected officials to pressure the regulators to pressure the banks to stop doing business with sex-related businesses.

                          It wouldn't be hard to track money from truly illegal sex work to a porn website to a bank. And with many laws, the standard to create a conspiracy is "knew or should have known."

                          And when making decisions about enforcing regulations, government regulators are usually subject to a "substantial evidence" standard, essentially meaning that if there is any evidence to support their decision, a court will uphold it.

                          So, if a website has content on it that appears to be illegal or might be illegal, it might not be too hard to convince banking regulators that a bank "should have known" they were taking money from illegal activities--and the regulators could potentially fine the bank big time.

                          If the bank attempts to overturn that in court, the regulators can point to the videos as substantial evidence. The only way a bank MIGHT overcome that would be to get all the actors in the videos in question to testify that everything was 100% consensual, that the drugs were fake, etc. etc.

                          And what do you think the odds would be of a bank being able to get all the actors in dozens of videos from around the world to come to the USA and testify? Even if they could, would they want to go through all that trouble?

                          It's much easier to put in strict prohibitions on the type of content that a website can show.

                          As much as I'm against this type of censorship, I would do the exact same thing if I were SLR. Any other choice would eventually lead to the demise of this great website. Or a vast reduction in the profitability, which would lead to people losing their jobs, and eventually result in less and lower quality content.

                            doublevr stop words have to stay completely out of the site.

                            By this I assume you mean in the forum and in user comments to videos as well, yes?

                            So, we couldn't post a comment to a video that says, "I like this, but next time the actors should drink *** while holding a **** to the girl's *** and ***ing her ****, right?

                                I guess this is the reason why the scene description for Wed's Raw Taboo scene is quite different to what the actual scene contained? If so, weird that the description for Molly Little's scene today is quite "risky"...

                                bacula8630 This is most likely due to JCB having laxer policies. JCB is probably the operator of Japan's entire card processing network that Visa/MC piggyback off of. See what happened in Russia with Mir after the events from last year began.