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I think Non-POV could work better if the storytelling explains it and is even a key part of it. Just some stupid examples; something like stepping into the animus from Assassins Creed putting you into a different POV, or how in GTA V when you switch characters the camera zooms in from satellite-view to a character and their POV. Just saying there could be ways of doing non-POV parts that make sense storywise and possibly enhance the experience. It'd be more like watching a show where you end up in perhaps multiple POVs.

If you're going to do moving cam "without a person" floating-POV though there has to be good stabilization and not too fast movements (especially with left/right panning). I think how StasyQVR does it is usually pretty good. (Sidenote they're also good about showing the entire female body and not just constantly the same boring (too)-close-up positions.)

I'm not saying 'story-explained non-POV' would automagically make videos good, but at least it could show some effort to make story-focused non-POV more immersive in a way. I'm sure there will always be people who hate it and just want stuntcock-POV gonzo VR but for those who enjoy immersive storyline stuff it could be cool.

That said, story stuff in current VR scenes is already abysmal 95% of the time so I don't see it seriously improving any time soon. It's like there's a rule in porn that all story stuff has to be terrible. 😵‍ Everyone is kinda stuck in the same formula both in "stories" and cam/body positions and sure hardware and limitations play a part perhaps, but imo what could be unique to VR in storytelling is underutilised so experimenting is fine. (imo better story-immersion is more interesting than haptic suits).

Aside from experimenting, here's also my +1 for less 'pumping out as many scenes as possible' and more 'quality scenes are better'. Too much regular stuff coming out that doesn't even get basics right.

    Mutiny One more thing. The latest Taboo VR Porn scene had an amazing blow job scene. It felt so real because in this case I couldn't see my dick only her hair. The way she did it was how a girl really does it. In porn if the girl does it naturally then they make her pull her hair back and look up at you. My girlfriends were never thinking about me being able see everything or not. Same with the girl riding you. The second she leans on you (again like IRL) they make her sit back up. I think this is all 2D porn carry over. VR is different. For me at least the realer the better.

    Make it happen Mutiny and become the god of VR

    https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/doc-stepmom-gives-dick-exam-32208

          rerun119 Same with the girl riding you. The second she leans on you (again like IRL) they make her sit back up. I think this is all 2D porn carry over.

          Yeah hate it when they do that. It's rare to see cowgirl shots where they let her lean forward and long hair is freely moving, there aren't many scenes that do this well. It's probably very tricky to control as it can be too close to the camera and blocking too much of the view for sure, but if done well it's really great.

          Wanted to refer to the perfect cowgirl scene (CzechVR 212 Horny Morning with Lucy Li) and I checked to be sure but it's only the intro part where she climbs over the table. Even in their most top rated scene they had her tie up her hair for the cowgirl shots. 🤦‍♂️ The forward leaning booba action in that one is still amazing though. But now I can't remember the scene that did have it with free moving hair... damn.

              doublevr If you point out specific issues with particular scenes we can work on that. I specifically talked with every team if there is anything we can level up to get better production. Nothing major was coming to mind

              asking your producers to critique their own work is how you decide what needs improving? no wonder some of them keep producing mediocre to poor scenes with sub-optimal camera placement, bad scaling, boring locations and other issues. even nash's historically stellar scenes have taken a noticable decline since the return to 6k. worst of all it appears that nobody at slr has noticed or nobody at slr cares.

                  [deleted] @g2kbuffetboy Dude, know your porn. Dream Team was split in two parts. Just search for it. There's a "sneak preview" that is an excellent film in and of itself. I highly recommend it: they should do more work with John Strong, 'cause that guy has stamina!

                  I don't disagree with your followup, you bring up some good points, and I think having behind the scenes or making of components are great additions! I certainly will vote for that... but uhhh, kind of funny you told me "Dude, know your porn" lolll. I don't know if I should be offended or not! 😂 But Dream Team's POV scene was one single scene, and it is the one that won the AVN. It's from start to finish the whole enchilada. The "Sneak Peek" you are talking about is the Voyeur extra. It's released separately because SLR understands not everyone likes to see mixed POV/Voyeur in the same scene. So if your original point is to have extras and supplemental footage released as separate parts, by all means, I'm fine with that! But it sounded to me you were basing splitting parts into 2 separate ones based on file size (which is what I disagreed with). Glad to have cleared that up.

                  BTW:
                  Official scene (2 hours): https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/dream-team-26815
                  Sneak Peek (10 mins); https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/dream-team-voyeur-sneak-peek-26624

                  Article/Blog post about the AVN award: https://www.sexlikereal.com/blog/398-slr-wins-avn-award-for-best-vr-sex-scene

                      g2kbuffetboy kind of funny you told me "Dude, know your porn" lolll. I don't know if I should be offended or not! 😂

                      I’d say a large group of us are offended on your behalf but it’s just too ridiculous to begin with. Instead I’ll just say, rest assured…

                        doublevr 20 releases a month doesn't mean anything when the majority of them are SLR Trans, SLR Passthrough, SLR JAV, SLR Grannies, SLR Midgets, SLR Amputees, etc. All this expansion into other genres and experimental stuff should not count as Originals releases.

                            Mutiny Good lord - this is EXACTLY what is wrong with SLR today. Your customers are telling you what they want and dont want, what they like and dont like, and you just ignore it and say that the problem is that WE need to evolve and like what you think we should like.

                            The arrogance.

                            This site is dead.

                              LordCrash But he isn't talking about more variety, he's talking about non-POV VR porn. For all the railing against AR that you've done, I thought you'd get this.

                                  Will65
                                  I'm a subscriber too, and I'm happy to see a portion of their production being used to make high quality videos for some of the genres besides "Teen Girls". There are literally tons of those coming out monthly.

                                  Transgirls, Mature/MILF, BBW, etc, are huge markets in the porn industry and have a lot of fans. Just because you personally don't care for them doesn't mean that no one else does. If SLR wants to be the biggest site for the whole VR market its a good idea to provide quality content for these fans as well.

                                      Aerowen this is what makes good JAV stuff really special. They use this camera angle where the girl is on top, but the camera is up in the air a bit (almost like your seated but not as close as usual seated cowgirl) and you can see their face looking at the camera while also having the whole body in shot.

                                        BML5768 That's all fine - just stop diluting the core brand I subscribed to. For the life of me, I cannot understand why people don't get that changing the product your customers have paid for AFTER they've paid for it is a bad idea (so much so that we have terms for it, like bait and switch). If I subscribed for 3 Nash-style releases from SLRO every week, and then SLR still releases 3 SLRO vids a week, but they consist of 1 SLR Trans, 1 SLR Passthrough, and 1 SLR JAV, it shouldn't take a genius to see that I didn't get what I paid for that week. All the comments noting how many "mainstream" or "teen-girls" videos already exist are irrelevant - I am paying SLR to deliver the content they promised when I subscribed, not to change their path to every shiny new thing in the name of diversity while ignoring, diluting, or degrading what I paid for.

                                        Multiple subscribers have been making this point, and I have yet to see it addressed fairly, without obfuscation.

                                            Will65 Non-POV VR is still VR though. It's not placed in the real world, it's still a virtual fantasy - it's just a fantasy some people don't like but that pretty much true for any fantasy. POV and Non-POV porn can even exist in the same scene, it's e.g. true for every MMF+ scene. Nothing spectacular about that.

                                            Watching other people having sex can be pretty hot, actually people have done so dozens of years to get horny before VR was even invented... 🤣

                                                Will65 SLR still releases 3 SLRO vids a week, but they consist of 1 SLR Trans, 1 SLR Passthrough, and 1 SLR JAV

                                                If you're going to make an argument be honest about it. SLR has released 1 Trans video in the last 2 years, 3 JAV videos total, 0 grannies, 0 midgets, and 0 amputees. SLR has acknowledged the issues with their passthrough scenes and is correcting them for the future. The specialty genre releases are by far a minority of the scenes being produced.

                                                These niche videos are being produced because subscribers, like me and many many others, are asking for them. There are a lot of us paying subscribers who want our money going into producing these videos and not just what you want. Also, these categories are not "shiny new things" but are huge markets in the adult film industry that have been popular for a long long time. They just haven't been served well yet in the VR space.

                                                I truly get that they are not what you personally like, but it's kind of delusional that you would think that every video should cater to your personal tastes. I'm a Netflix subscriber and every time Netflix releases a movie or show I don't like, I don't go over to their forum and start raging about them wasting my money and threatening to unsubscribe. I understand that other people probably love those things that I may not, and they are paying subscribers too.

                                                    BML5768 these categories are not "shiny new things" but are huge markets in the adult film industry that have been popular for a long long time.

                                                    trans isnt huge