SLR vision and logic

bobbytables I'd call it "somewhat tolerable" rather than "good" but there are obviously some scnes with a better effort than others. Still tilting against windmills...

LordCrash Hard reality: There is no good storytelling in VR porn today, neither on SLR nor somewhere else.

It's because you simply can't create a good storyline without basic human interaction like speaking.

Brother, it is my personal mission — my purpose for being on this planet — to figure out how to get this right. One-sided dialog can only ever take you so far.

Today's immersive, "it's-happening-to-me" POV is a game changing development for sure. It's up there with adding sound to picture in the early days of the "talkies". We live in the goddamn future and everything is amazing! But it's beginning to feel like we arrived there and just....stopped. We forgot to be curious.

Part of the solve for this, I think, is to untether ourselves from the idea that VR porn must be POV. Thousands of years of human erotica has involved watching other people have sex, and to think that we've somehow evolved past that is foolishness.

I know a lot of people say they don't like non-POV, and my theory is that's mostly because they just haven't seen it done well. My background is in film production and live theatre production and what excites me most about VR is this is a medium where those two things overlap to create something new. And the rules of just one don't apply. We get to discover a whole new visual language combining 120 years of cinema-craft and 2000 years of theatre-craft into a whole new thing, the surface of which we've just begun to scratch.

Holy shit that's amazing, right?!?

I'm thrilled to be joining SLR as a producer, and let me tell you, my goal isn't to churn out a shittier version of what Nash, VRF, etc already do well. I adore those cats and I'm honored to be working along side them.

But @doublevr has directed me to experiment, explore, innovate, and generally chase down crazy ideas. I'll play with visuals, with storytelling, with color and sound and light and texture and editing and all kinds of other crazy shit.

I won't get them all right, but I promise everyone this: If I'm asking for your time, I'll do my very best to earn it. I'll work my ass off to entertain the hell out of you motherfuckers* because I love the work and I love you all, too.
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*Note from legal: please add "step-", for compliance reasons

It's tricky because on one hand, 20 releases are meaningless to me if I only like 3-4 of them, but on the other hand, I absolutely want people of different tastes to be served.

I don't like cuck stuff, but I want the people that are into it to have something. Same goes for something like step-family or creampies. There's a ton of that out there and I recognize that I'm not the only user so not everything will specifically cater to me.

If all of these different teams are just cranking out the same shit as fast as possible, then we have a problem, and I think that fear is somewhat justified.

petergriff I agree 100%.

(I do want to point out that at no point did I mention cuck stuff. Bobby seems to have drawn a very tiny circle around what "non-POV" can possibly mean, then decided he didn't like what was in the circle he himself just drew.)

I think Non-POV could work better if the storytelling explains it and is even a key part of it. Just some stupid examples; something like stepping into the animus from Assassins Creed putting you into a different POV, or how in GTA V when you switch characters the camera zooms in from satellite-view to a character and their POV. Just saying there could be ways of doing non-POV parts that make sense storywise and possibly enhance the experience. It'd be more like watching a show where you end up in perhaps multiple POVs.

If you're going to do moving cam "without a person" floating-POV though there has to be good stabilization and not too fast movements (especially with left/right panning). I think how StasyQVR does it is usually pretty good. (Sidenote they're also good about showing the entire female body and not just constantly the same boring (too)-close-up positions.)

I'm not saying 'story-explained non-POV' would automagically make videos good, but at least it could show some effort to make story-focused non-POV more immersive in a way. I'm sure there will always be people who hate it and just want stuntcock-POV gonzo VR but for those who enjoy immersive storyline stuff it could be cool.

That said, story stuff in current VR scenes is already abysmal 95% of the time so I don't see it seriously improving any time soon. It's like there's a rule in porn that all story stuff has to be terrible. ‍ Everyone is kinda stuck in the same formula both in "stories" and cam/body positions and sure hardware and limitations play a part perhaps, but imo what could be unique to VR in storytelling is underutilised so experimenting is fine. (imo better story-immersion is more interesting than haptic suits).

Aside from experimenting, here's also my +1 for less 'pumping out as many scenes as possible' and more 'quality scenes are better'. Too much regular stuff coming out that doesn't even get basics right.