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doublevr I would love to tell you all the differences if I had a day to write it all down and I thought that someone would actually agree to consider it.

Let me ask you a question. Do you think that these are the same quality from (don't know the date anymore) 2 years ago
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/gfe-true-love-22291
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/make-plays-not-grades-22137
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/pleasure-trip-22233

As these from last month? Both are 3 videos out of 6 in that period of time.
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/multicam-on-the-casting-couch-31029
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/are-you-ready-to-suffer-28940
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/wam-she-came-in-space-starring-brooke-johnson-30447

Or these 3 in a row
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/baby-ive-been-shopping-31763
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/your-girlfriend-experience-31774
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/coworker-skips-date-for-you-31811

Do they all look like the same kind of videos to you? This is what "Producing 4-5 videos is easy for each team." looks like on my end of SLR. Maybe you think they are great.

PS. I didn't even bring up green videos that I can't watch with my Pimax if I wanted to.

    doublevr
    I appreciate that you took the time to write that down but there's sadly nothing in there that really peaks my interest. Shooting interesting and technically solid VR videos is somehow the basic requirement for every VR porn site so I don't think that there's something special about it.

    What happened to super high-quality 2d versions for every SLRO scene? IIRC that was on your vision last year and I was really looking forward to that...

      [deleted] Right now, in my opinion, SLR is wanting in narrative quality.

      Hard reality: There is no good storytelling in VR porn today, neither on SLR nor somewhere else.

      It's because you simply can't create a good storyline without basic human interaction like speaking. Yeah, I know, it's revolutionary for some, but basic human interaction involves verbal communication from everyone involved, it's not a one sided affair...

      [deleted] Every scene, or at least too many of them, concern kinky family sex fantasies.

      What the heck are you smoking? I want some of that too... 🤣

      That's just false information though. Almost all VR porn is just some goofy girl friend experience and only a tiny fraction involves faux family porn. It's a bit different in 2D porn (the porn universe in which some storytelling actually exists...) but imho the faux family stuff is still better than the old "pizza-guy", "massage-guy", "repair-guy" cliches we've seen over and over again in the past...

            LordCrash there are some decent storylines coming out of POVR, not the best but decent enough. The Alyx Star genie one for example has at least a decent build up

                bobbytables I'd call it "somewhat tolerable" rather than "good" but there are obviously some scnes with a better effort than others. Still tilting against windmills...

                  LordCrash Hard reality: There is no good storytelling in VR porn today, neither on SLR nor somewhere else.

                  It's because you simply can't create a good storyline without basic human interaction like speaking.

                  Brother, it is my personal mission — my purpose for being on this planet — to figure out how to get this right. One-sided dialog can only ever take you so far.

                  Today's immersive, "it's-happening-to-me" POV is a game changing development for sure. It's up there with adding sound to picture in the early days of the "talkies". We live in the goddamn future and everything is amazing! But it's beginning to feel like we arrived there and just....stopped. We forgot to be curious.

                  Part of the solve for this, I think, is to untether ourselves from the idea that VR porn must be POV. Thousands of years of human erotica has involved watching other people have sex, and to think that we've somehow evolved past that is foolishness.

                  I know a lot of people say they don't like non-POV, and my theory is that's mostly because they just haven't seen it done well. My background is in film production and live theatre production and what excites me most about VR is this is a medium where those two things overlap to create something new. And the rules of just one don't apply. We get to discover a whole new visual language combining 120 years of cinema-craft and 2000 years of theatre-craft into a whole new thing, the surface of which we've just begun to scratch.

                  Holy shit that's amazing, right?!?

                  I'm thrilled to be joining SLR as a producer, and let me tell you, my goal isn't to churn out a shittier version of what Nash, VRF, etc already do well. I adore those cats and I'm honored to be working along side them.

                  But @doublevr has directed me to experiment, explore, innovate, and generally chase down crazy ideas. I'll play with visuals, with storytelling, with color and sound and light and texture and editing and all kinds of other crazy shit.

                  I won't get them all right, but I promise everyone this: If I'm asking for your time, I'll do my very best to earn it. I'll work my ass off to entertain the hell out of you motherfuckers* because I love the work and I love you all, too.
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                  *Note from legal: please add "step-", for compliance reasons

                      Mutiny this is the biggest and most concerning statement for you taking on production. I now have extremely low expectations for your products. Thinking people don't like non-pov because "it hasn't been done right" isn't a thing, people don't like non-pov because they like being in the position of immersion and the amount of people who like being immersively cucked are far fewer than the amount that like being immersed in fucking a hot pornstar. I will absolutely be avoiding all of your work moving forward.

                          It's tricky because on one hand, 20 releases are meaningless to me if I only like 3-4 of them, but on the other hand, I absolutely want people of different tastes to be served.

                          I don't like cuck stuff, but I want the people that are into it to have something. Same goes for something like step-family or creampies. There's a ton of that out there and I recognize that I'm not the only user so not everything will specifically cater to me.

                          If all of these different teams are just cranking out the same shit as fast as possible, then we have a problem, and I think that fear is somewhat justified.

                            petergriff I agree 100%.

                            (I do want to point out that at no point did I mention cuck stuff. Bobby seems to have drawn a very tiny circle around what "non-POV" can possibly mean, then decided he didn't like what was in the circle he himself just drew.)

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                              g2kbuffetboy original files option up to 30 or 40 GB

                              Just to clarify, I am not advising that the films be cut haphazardly at some random point. I'm saying that a well devised scene that requires 1 hour or more of VR content, and would be a massive download in one part, suggests the need for a little experimental revision.

                              Certain positions from these massive films could be included in longer BTS supplements to the main film. So, you have your main film with its story and all those elements...

                              Then, you have a "Making of" component, or something like that, which would include a little interview, maybe a body tour or something kinky, and the other positions from the main film.

                              This way the current resources of SLR might be streamlined more effectively: You have great editors, a solid film crew, but the current offerings aren't as strong in narrative as the earlier films (which is, in part, a consequence of the massive production schedule currently undertaken).

                              Many companies adopt a policy like this over time. Take the infamous GDP, with their feature films, BTS, and GDT eps. BackroomCastingCouch has been experimenting with BTS eps.

                              I think this is a solid option to provide better content for most users (who have the hard limit of 20 GB for direct Android upload -- to their devices -- and also want the option to download content, in addition to streaming).

                              @g2kbuffetboy Dude, know your porn. Dream Team was split in two parts. Just search for it. There's a "sneak preview" that is an excellent film in and of itself. I highly recommend it: they should do more work with John Strong, 'cause that guy has stamina!

                                  bobbytables i really won't be. You're disagreeing with some very basic psychology.

                                  Not really. He just doesn't want to do stuff you personally like. Has nothing to do with general psychology...

                                  I'm all in for more variety. VR porn is still 90% GFE POV porn right now. There should be space for much more variety, no matter how much some people fight to keep VR porn a walled garden...

                                      Mutiny First off I really like your PMV. They are next level editing, amazing work. So I think you can make some really cool stuff.
                                      I do hope that doesn't just mean lazer guns and and special effects in every video. That is not what makes a believable video to me. Story telling is what makes it believable. Like maybe picking up a girl at the bar then going to get something to eat at a late night dive restaurant where she is grabbing your cock under the table. A lot of us have had stuff like that happen to us IRL. I know this means moving the camera a couple of times and it takes time but that is what would make SLR better than anyone else. I still believe if you did these things then people will see them as amazing and the numbers would be huge.

                                      Wankzvr did an epic video at a restaurant that they didn't even have to move the camera.
                                      https://www.wankzvr.com/wankzvr/blind-date-4400975

                                      Imagine this but better over and over, damn that would be crazy. I don't know why they did it once then never again.

                                      Also Taboo VR Porn has talking in the first part of the scenes. I really like it cause you can build the story a lot easier when the guy (me) talks back. I'm sure some people don't like it but for me it really works great. Plus it's POV which is a lot better than just watching a guy talk that is supposed to be me but im watching which makes no sense.

                                          rerun119 Thank you for the kind words.

                                          rerun119 I do hope that doesn't just mean lazer guns and and special effects in every video.

                                          Not at all. I do intend to do some crazy, stylized, experimental stuff for sure (cause it's fun and I only get one ride on this planet so fuck it, let's get weird), but what I'm really excited about is creating spaces where the performers can express their own genuine sexuality and desire through storytelling, without being locked into one awkward position (and, in the case of the male performers, literally unable to breathe out loud).

                                          rerun119 A lot of us have had stuff like that happen to us IRL.

                                          I once got a handjob in church. You damn well better believe I'm crafting a scenario around that at some point. 😃

                                          rerun119 you can build the story a lot easier when the guy (me) talks back.

                                          I don't want to say too much about specifics because I'll be figuring this out as I go, but one thing I'm excited to try is using the BYOJ programming to create Choose-Your-Own-Adventure type stories, where the choices you make literally affect the outcome.

                                          That said, I'm approaching all of this with a student's mindset. I want to play, experiment, try, learn, and go again.

                                          Thanks for the encouragement. I'll do my best not to let you down.