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TemporaryName

doublevr "We try to be reasonable"

Reasonable would be giving people what you advertised at the time they paid for it.

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Basic monetary theory is not political. Your response required an explanation. You seemed not to understand the causes of inflation and why all prices must go up, including the price of porn. All I can say is that although I cannot speak for SLR it would take either a blind man or someone incredibly self-deceiving not to see what's going on in the world. Europe has rolling blackouts and they turn the street lights off at certain times of day. In Germany they have returned to a robust industry for firewood. Stupid decisions make stuff cost much more.

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RockyMtHigh I’m not gonna engage in a political debate on the website I come to to find out what movies have the best blow job angles lol.

Then shut up and pay more. Simple.

Not to be rude, but if you have a second credit card you can always use it to create a second account and ignore inflation and all its consequences....

ThePointyEnd

doublevr OK and every time you lower it, it can never go higher than the new maximum, so the new data will always be a lower average than the maximum, meaning so even if 0.1% turns into 1% turns into 5%, but it only affects 5% so who cares? So that justifies lowering it further. So yes it is fair to question why we shouldn't believe it will go down to 100 per month, then 50 per month, then 30 per month, etc. Because every single time you lower it, the new data will say you can get away with it again.

Frankly, there was never a legitimate argument why lifetime shouldn't have unlimited downloads.

ibins

doublevr Policy update affects less than 1% of users. Something we want to get fixed as it creates more harm than it does good.

Then why even bother with the hassle of changing it?
If it is smaller then 1% of users then the possible savings never ever can outweigh the trouble you put yourself in by changing the contract one sided which is very questionable if it is even legal at all.

doublevr

ibins that's the idea of fair use.

spacepirate

doublevr well you now have by far the most restrictive download limit of any vr porn site... using the "fair use" excuse doesnt fly. time to buy more bandwidth or fix your servers instead of imposing tighter limits.

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I'd avoid that expression "Fair Use" unless you want to give pirates a loophole. "Fair Use" has a very specific and clearly defined meaning in American law. Nelson v Tenenbaum defined file sharing as "not fair use". Fair Use internationally, for copyright purposes, means that the creative product can be shared freely for non-profit purposes. One example of non-profit sharing is torrenting, which certainly isn't what you'd want to encourage (I'd imagine) as typical "fair use".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use#File_sharing

ibins

Well changing conditions afterwards and one sided is certainly the opposite of fair.

ibins

BTW the idea of fair use is not to have any hard limit at all.

Fair use means that you are expected to be under a certain limit in the long term. If you occasionally exceed the limit nothing happens at all.
If you regularly exceed the limit, you get a warning.
Depending on the exact policy you might get a second or third warning, and finally if you ignore them you get the access to the service you used more then you should suspended.

A hard limit is just the opposite of fair use. It is a part of a contract that says you pay X amount and for this you get the service for Y amount. Of course there is nothing generally wrong with that, as long as you do not suddenly change already sealed contracts.

radarc

As a long time sub why not limit the new accounts that sub and drop every month from leaching the site and allow long time subs to download more?

Polar

Fair Use internationally, for copyright purposes, means that the creative product can be shared freely for non-profit purposes.

No it doesn't.

doublevr

[deleted] Good point. Thx a lot 👍
We definitely want to fix it

Rakly3

[deleted] Fair Use internationally, for copyright purposes, means that the creative product can be shared freely for non-profit purposes.

That's fair use of copyrighted material in your own commercial content. ie music and video. We are talking about fair use of the network. This is why many other sites don't even allow the usage of download managers because it slows down the speed for other users.

NAVR banned me 2 days after getting an annual subscription with them for this reason. I couldn't even access the site to cancel my subscription, and through carelessness on my part, even got billed again a year later.

Axxipiter

I'm feeling very sad...

It's like buying a car and manufacturer promises certain equipment and horsepower (and range, if it is electric car)...
and when you get the car, you realize that you only get half of the promised features. 🙁

My primary way of watching videos is download and DNLA, because it is not always possible to use a fast internet connection.

You must understand, that Your customers are living all over the world...
There are different kind of infrastructures in internet.
You know, we all are not living middle of the urban cities like Los Angeles. 😉

So, please please please, go back to the way it was.
(Or at least release the restrictions of some clients, like me.)

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Users on here wouldn't appreciate a lecture on this topic. Language matters. You don't want users creating mash-ups with large extracts of your footage. I'd find clearer language given the context.

Note: 'Fair Use' not 'Fair Dealing'

doublevr

ibins nothing changed for 99.99% of users

Rakly3

someoneX Those sites don't have 25,000 or so scenes. You can download their whole library with 150 downloads or less.

someoneX

Rakly3 Those sites don't have 25,000 or so scenes. You can download their whole library with 150 downloads or less.

So there's even less reason to reduce the downloads, because SLR has so many scenes, that even 30 downloads per 72 hours wouldn't allow someone to leech everything with a single month subscription. It would take years, if you even can keep up with the new releases.

I understand why VRBangers and other studio sites use limits (still not as low as yours), because it prevents users from easily downloading everything within one month, with very little reason to keep the subscription after that.

SLR is the last site that has that risk and is/was considered a baseline subscription by many. If there are still users doing it, you won't stop them with that new limit - cheap skates like that will just masturbate to the same scenes twice as much or switch to piracy.

Rakly3

[deleted] Change the Studio File options from 150 GB to 40 GB. I've never downloaded anything above 40 GB and am not alone.

Then it's not the studio file
The studio files are lossless (not RAW)

[deleted]

100+ GB files is an insane luxury for a very limited number of users (right? stats?) given the present state of technology/

If bandwidth is the issue, it would be smarter to limit those large files than implement universal policy.

Count them as 10 files... The ones above, say, 75 GB.

ibins

Which means it is still unfair to 0,01% of users.

And once more raises the question why even bother.

ThePointyEnd

nothing changed for 99.99% of users

That just means there's LESS of a reason to change it.

Regardless of one's stance on this and whether it is fair, that is on principle a terrible argument and there's countless examples why "It doesn't effect the 99.99%" is a terrible argument. And when there are problems, you make exceptions for the 0.01%.

And again, lifetime subs aren't ransacking your site and taking off with an unfair amount of videos and cancelling their subscription.

Lifer1998

So will you be offering refunds for lifetime subscriptions since you are altering the plan for instance? (9999 months - 4 months used = refund of 99.999599959996% of my membership payment) it shouldn’t matter to SLR I used less than 1%

04PH08

I for one am a student and cant afford to pay monthly for this site, so once a year I sub for a month and download videos for later.
So I might get close to the monthly limit but over the duration of one year I dont cause more traffic than the average user. A few weeks ago I bought another monthly subscribtion expecting to get just that, but now you just change it without a warning or transition period? Thats just not fair!
I get that with this kind of usage I am not the ideal kind of customer for you, but I am a customer none the less. I understand that you want to reduce the amount of downloads and that is totally debateable, but doing it like this is very unprofessional.

Jeff777LUFC

erniescar69 Who in the hell is choking the chicken for two effing hours in VR?

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