You have 0 downloads remaining in this time period (144 hours) :/

Polar

Fair Use internationally, for copyright purposes, means that the creative product can be shared freely for non-profit purposes.

No it doesn't.

[deleted]

Users on here wouldn't appreciate a lecture on this topic. Language matters. You don't want users creating mash-ups with large extracts of your footage. I'd find clearer language given the context.

Note: 'Fair Use' not 'Fair Dealing'

doublevr

[deleted] Good point. Thx a lot 👍
We definitely want to fix it

ibins

Well changing conditions afterwards and one sided is certainly the opposite of fair.

doublevr

ibins nothing changed for 99.99% of users

Rakly3

someoneX Those sites don't have 25,000 or so scenes. You can download their whole library with 150 downloads or less.

someoneX

Rakly3 Those sites don't have 25,000 or so scenes. You can download their whole library with 150 downloads or less.

So there's even less reason to reduce the downloads, because SLR has so many scenes, that even 30 downloads per 72 hours wouldn't allow someone to leech everything with a single month subscription. It would take years, if you even can keep up with the new releases.

I understand why VRBangers and other studio sites use limits (still not as low as yours), because it prevents users from easily downloading everything within one month, with very little reason to keep the subscription after that.

SLR is the last site that has that risk and is/was considered a baseline subscription by many. If there are still users doing it, you won't stop them with that new limit - cheap skates like that will just masturbate to the same scenes twice as much or switch to piracy.

Rakly3

[deleted] Fair Use internationally, for copyright purposes, means that the creative product can be shared freely for non-profit purposes.

That's fair use of copyrighted material in your own commercial content. ie music and video. We are talking about fair use of the network. This is why many other sites don't even allow the usage of download managers because it slows down the speed for other users.

NAVR banned me 2 days after getting an annual subscription with them for this reason. I couldn't even access the site to cancel my subscription, and through carelessness on my part, even got billed again a year later.

Rakly3

[deleted] Change the Studio File options from 150 GB to 40 GB. I've never downloaded anything above 40 GB and am not alone.

Then it's not the studio file
The studio files are lossless (not RAW)

[deleted]

100+ GB files is an insane luxury for a very limited number of users (right? stats?) given the present state of technology/

If bandwidth is the issue, it would be smarter to limit those large files than implement universal policy.

Count them as 10 files... The ones above, say, 75 GB.

ibins

Which means it is still unfair to 0,01% of users.

And once more raises the question why even bother.

ThePointyEnd

nothing changed for 99.99% of users

That just means there's LESS of a reason to change it.

Regardless of one's stance on this and whether it is fair, that is on principle a terrible argument and there's countless examples why "It doesn't effect the 99.99%" is a terrible argument. And when there are problems, you make exceptions for the 0.01%.

And again, lifetime subs aren't ransacking your site and taking off with an unfair amount of videos and cancelling their subscription.

Lifer1998

So will you be offering refunds for lifetime subscriptions since you are altering the plan for instance? (9999 months - 4 months used = refund of 99.999599959996% of my membership payment) it shouldn’t matter to SLR I used less than 1%

04PH08

I for one am a student and cant afford to pay monthly for this site, so once a year I sub for a month and download videos for later.
So I might get close to the monthly limit but over the duration of one year I dont cause more traffic than the average user. A few weeks ago I bought another monthly subscribtion expecting to get just that, but now you just change it without a warning or transition period? Thats just not fair!
I get that with this kind of usage I am not the ideal kind of customer for you, but I am a customer none the less. I understand that you want to reduce the amount of downloads and that is totally debateable, but doing it like this is very unprofessional.

Jeff777LUFC

erniescar69 Who in the hell is choking the chicken for two effing hours in VR?

👋 🤪 👍

ZENRA

ibins That SLR is not simply kicking those super heavy users out is fair. As others may have stated here, sites like SLR that pay to produce and license content don't make pure profits and thus need some restrictions in place. I would be thankful that SLR offers downloads for a lot of its content as more and more sites are disabling them or moving them to a tiered plan. One big network of sites I know recently made it so subscriptions are streaming-only with downloads only being available on a PPD basis--something I believe SLR had in the past but in order to keep 99.9% of users happy, has mostly deprecated for an excellent (again, for 99.9% of users) Premium experience.

anordr

The halving of the quota is unfortunate. And it's not helped by there not being any easy way to tell when your time period is up, because the website doesn't tell you how much time you have left until you're down to the last three movies, and only if you try to download something. The current message on the downloads tab of any movie says something like:

You have 12 downloads remaining in this time period (144 hours).

The mentioning of 144 hours is pointless, because it's already stated in the fair use policy the line above. I'd much rather have some useful information about the current time remaining if there's an active time period, something like:

You have 12 downloads remaining in this time period (57 hours until reset).

jacky68

anordr The halving of the quota is unfortunate. And it's not helped by there not being any easy way to tell when your time period is up, because the website doesn't tell you how much time you have left until you're down to the last three movies, and only if you try to download something. The current message on the downloads tab of any movie says something like:

You have 12 downloads remaining in this time period (144 hours).

The mentioning of 144 hours is pointless, because it's already stated in the fair use policy the line above. I'd much rather have some useful information about the current time remaining if there's an active time period, something like:

You have 12 downloads remaining in this time period (57 hours until reset).

That would be a good idea, so we can exactly know how much time left until reset

Rakly3

ThePointyEnd That just means there's LESS of a reason to change it.

0.01% of accounts download hundreds of times more than the other 99.99% together.
Even with the new limit in place, this is true.

someoneX ThePointyEnd
Anyway, you're assuming to know the reasons for the change.

ibins

Rakly3 0.01% of accounts download hundreds of times more than the other 99.99% together.
Even with the new limit in place, this is true.

So you wanna tell, 0,01% users load 150 videos per month, because well they can not load more.
And this is 100x more then the rest 99,99%, so the 99,99% load in SUM 15 videos.

Or let´s put this in more concrete numbers.

Let´s assume you have 10000 users.

1 user loads 150 videos.
9999 users load 15 videos in sum or in other words 0,0015 videos per user.

Sounds really believable. 🙃

RockyMtHigh

I just want to say if you need to download 150 videos a month you probably have a porn addiction (not a laughing matter at all) and this might be in your best interest.

.02

Rakly3

[deleted] There's a reason those files are available.

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