SLR Streaming vs Downloads data

RockyMtHigh

withy he’s really unprofessional.

withy

RockyMtHigh Right? Most of the time when I comment, I am legit trying to help him since I really want the site to succeed. Stubborn like a mule, though.

argyle43

doublevr In this company we never fake things.

The point isn’t that the data is faked. It’s that comparing files downloaded to time streamed is not compatible for a whole list of reasons. It’s not apples to apples so no truly meaningful conclusion can be drawn. Any true data scientist will tell you the same and in fact they already have. You just don’t seem to want to hear it.

RockyMtHigh

argyle43 but they included one of those super fancy and complex trend lines, doesn’t that make it legit?😂

petermc

Whatever the why’s and wherefore’s, what that graph does show is a big increase in overall activity on the site which suggests it has grown the subscriber base a lot in that time. The more fans on here the better as you get a greater variety of tastes and hopefully this leads to a greater variety of content.

withy

petermc what that graph does show is a big increase in overall activity on the site

Without a y-axis label, it doesn't even show that. For all we know, the bottom point could be "1" and the top point "2".

argyle43

petermc exactly a point I tried to make above

argyle43 I think it’s safe to conclude that the steeper slope on the streaming graph just means your content is getting a lot better, and it is.

Increased quantity multiplied by longer time streaming views would support that conclusion, whereas downloads would continue to increase on a more constant and less steep slope; exactly what is depicted.

But I disagree the chart tells us that “streaming is greater than downloads”, unless we can see data around how often files are opened and how long they are watched once downloaded. The conclusions around that are just guessed at above.

Rakly3

Avakian Not to a degree it would be impactful no. I'm sure this is the case for some users.

rerun119

doublevr Why is downloading shit? My internet connection only lets me stream at 2160p but I can download and watch at the highest you can make. I don't understand why you seem to hate it so much.

mirdumar

I only stream to check the scene (minute or two), if i like it i download and then watch, but since i check a lot of scenes and download a lot less (maybe 1 in 20 of those checked), i guess i contribute more to streaming, even though i strongly prefer downloads.

[deleted]

Streaming is totally fine, but I'd request to @doublevr that the Deo WebVR be activated in 4K. I'm fairly new to VR and have a very poor system. It would be fantastic if you enabled the 4K streaming option as an alternative for low-end users, like myself, interested in the JAV. As I understand it, downloading the JAV is out of the question because of your contract restrictions. But downloading streams of it should be fine, or at least it is for my friends who subscribe to the source R18. Right now it's only possible to use the SLR implementation of Deo WebVR for 1980 x 1980, whereas the Deo site has an implementation of the web format that allows for true 4K and even higher. Lots of foreign users with slow connections and bad rigs, like me, would benefit from the minor improvements in image quality. Amazing site, though, with fast servers and great content!

EDIT: Maybe I'm getting it wrong, because I recall reading on here that it is possible to stream at 4K in the web interface; but the implementation of Deo WebVR on this site shows no option for 2160p, which is the most common standard of '4K'.

doublevr

Only 8% of users re-watch at least 60 sec of the same video in 2 month

argyle43

doublevr Only 8% of users re-watch at least 60 sec of the same video in 2 month

I’ve taken my horse out of the race on this one as I went lifetime 2 1/2 years ago, but if this slow movement towards streaming only that you keep setting up with these posts (and comments in all the other posts) continues, you’re going to lose a lot of subscription renewals.

And these cherry-picked statistics and meaningless graphs say nothing. There’s a perception thing you’re not taking into account here. Take away people’s choices little by little, and soon enough they’ll stop choosing you.

Please stop this.

Punksxc

doublevr I like the download option but sometimes people share internet in there house - so streaming with lag is not really fun. Download option is great to have.

argyle43

I’m telling you, if Seinfeld came back on the air they’d make a Download Nazis episode.

doublevr

argyle43 I can assure no streaming only

Punksxc

doublevr also you made 2 threads for the same post which is spam and more annoying than progressive on the topic. I will spam the same issue here: shared internet places but you know that.

argyle43

arguing this however is pointless. I just reread this entire thread. let’s remind ourselves, the original post up top is a graph comparing minutes streamed on one axis to files downloaded on the other. Apples to Tennis Shoes. The graph that would actually say something is the one that compares time streamed to the time downloaded files get watched once downloaded…. minutes watched vs. minutes watched… not minutes vs. number downloaded. The meaningful comparison is obviously impossible, so instead this seeming and ever-evolving case to eliminate downloads at SLR is made via a steady drip of manufactured stats that could only convince people lacking the most basic understanding of math and data science.

clearly doublevr either hasn’t read the patient and reasoned arguments above, just doesn’t care, or more likely both.

argyle43

Pulling this part of the thread back out too. That “bullshit” I was ordered to stop bringing…

the key language there is “any time soon”, and what just happened…

Probably better lock this thread too I guess

Anyway, this is the portion of thread above that matters the most:

gurphh So please don't go too far with this. I will leave if you do.

doublevr

argyle43 sorry about that. still 99.99% of users won't notice any limitation. we try to be reasonable on that

spacepirate

doublevr your words dont mean much when you break your promises like that... just saying

argyle43

doublevr to be fair, I’m not one that notices right now either. By and large I stream your content. But I also download the files I know I’m going to come back to, which on this site is mostly Nash multigirl scenes. I’m a picky bastard.

All that said, I’m very sympathetic to those here upset to have their choices taken little by little and their voices not heard. Not everyone has the luxury of top level headsets or Gigabit service. The more people you can accommodate out there, the more robust SLR will be.

My observations with VR is that those of us that have made the commitments needed to view quality content are more than happy to pay for the privilege to do so, but it’s a two way street.

I appreciate your response, but I think you should listen to the growing dissatisfaction and back off from these heavy-handed policies.

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