SLR Streaming vs Downloads data

innol

doublevr l see many adult 2d video companys have many limits on their sites like you cannot preview their videos and pictures when you click it the PayPal option pops out they spare no efforts to get money but they are losing money . As a big company, be generous and take a long view for the future.

LordCrash

gurphh I don't have to use DeoVR. DeoVR is pretty good, except that it makes my computer fans spin like crazy. I use HereSphere and find it better in every way.

I can only second this. Heresphere is my preferred player, best player and best developer right now.

But imho it's good that both streaming and downloads exist. To each their own. 😉

Rakly3

LordCrash I manage user accounts. I see how much is downloaded and watched 😉

Avakian

Rakly3 Did you see any increase of download about scene of SLR Original that are no more watchable for Oculus Go or any device that can't be upgrate anymore with the last version of deovr ?

Rakly3

Avakian Not to a degree it would be impactful no. I'm sure this is the case for some users.

withy

argyle43 I made this exact point for this graph over at Reddit and he called me names (as usual). I am a PhD level statistician. It is easy to see that he is creating the graph to support the conclusion he wants. Cherry picking data doesn't work on data scientists 😆

argyle43

withy and the neon blinking irony of it? the OP is looking to recruit people to the data science and analytics team 🤣😂

doublevr

withy The graph was provided by the data team. I just posted it.

In this company we never fake things. I'm doing my best to make sure everything is what it is. Doesn't have to be nice, doesn't have to be perfect, it has to be what's real.

For the reference https://www.reddit.com/r/oculusnsfw/comments/vxqtbq/slr_streaming_vs_downloads_data/ig3mk3h/

RockyMtHigh

withy he’s really unprofessional.

argyle43

doublevr In this company we never fake things.

The point isn’t that the data is faked. It’s that comparing files downloaded to time streamed is not compatible for a whole list of reasons. It’s not apples to apples so no truly meaningful conclusion can be drawn. Any true data scientist will tell you the same and in fact they already have. You just don’t seem to want to hear it.

withy

RockyMtHigh Right? Most of the time when I comment, I am legit trying to help him since I really want the site to succeed. Stubborn like a mule, though.

RockyMtHigh

argyle43 but they included one of those super fancy and complex trend lines, doesn’t that make it legit?😂

petermc

Whatever the why’s and wherefore’s, what that graph does show is a big increase in overall activity on the site which suggests it has grown the subscriber base a lot in that time. The more fans on here the better as you get a greater variety of tastes and hopefully this leads to a greater variety of content.

withy

petermc what that graph does show is a big increase in overall activity on the site

Without a y-axis label, it doesn't even show that. For all we know, the bottom point could be "1" and the top point "2".

argyle43

petermc exactly a point I tried to make above

argyle43 I think it’s safe to conclude that the steeper slope on the streaming graph just means your content is getting a lot better, and it is.

Increased quantity multiplied by longer time streaming views would support that conclusion, whereas downloads would continue to increase on a more constant and less steep slope; exactly what is depicted.

But I disagree the chart tells us that “streaming is greater than downloads”, unless we can see data around how often files are opened and how long they are watched once downloaded. The conclusions around that are just guessed at above.

rerun119

doublevr Why is downloading shit? My internet connection only lets me stream at 2160p but I can download and watch at the highest you can make. I don't understand why you seem to hate it so much.

mirdumar

I only stream to check the scene (minute or two), if i like it i download and then watch, but since i check a lot of scenes and download a lot less (maybe 1 in 20 of those checked), i guess i contribute more to streaming, even though i strongly prefer downloads.

[deleted]

Streaming is totally fine, but I'd request to @doublevr that the Deo WebVR be activated in 4K. I'm fairly new to VR and have a very poor system. It would be fantastic if you enabled the 4K streaming option as an alternative for low-end users, like myself, interested in the JAV. As I understand it, downloading the JAV is out of the question because of your contract restrictions. But downloading streams of it should be fine, or at least it is for my friends who subscribe to the source R18. Right now it's only possible to use the SLR implementation of Deo WebVR for 1980 x 1980, whereas the Deo site has an implementation of the web format that allows for true 4K and even higher. Lots of foreign users with slow connections and bad rigs, like me, would benefit from the minor improvements in image quality. Amazing site, though, with fast servers and great content!

EDIT: Maybe I'm getting it wrong, because I recall reading on here that it is possible to stream at 4K in the web interface; but the implementation of Deo WebVR on this site shows no option for 2160p, which is the most common standard of '4K'.

doublevr

Only 8% of users re-watch at least 60 sec of the same video in 2 month

argyle43

doublevr Only 8% of users re-watch at least 60 sec of the same video in 2 month

I’ve taken my horse out of the race on this one as I went lifetime 2 1/2 years ago, but if this slow movement towards streaming only that you keep setting up with these posts (and comments in all the other posts) continues, you’re going to lose a lot of subscription renewals.

And these cherry-picked statistics and meaningless graphs say nothing. There’s a perception thing you’re not taking into account here. Take away people’s choices little by little, and soon enough they’ll stop choosing you.

Please stop this.

Punksxc

doublevr I like the download option but sometimes people share internet in there house - so streaming with lag is not really fun. Download option is great to have.

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