doorsareopen
Well said!! It's a shame the large studios arent listening.
POV vs Non-POV
Jaysmart1432 There's plenty of room for both POV and Non-POV!!!
Slr mentioned years ago they were thinking about filming nonpov as extra clips from scenes they produced, so far they only did 1
Hopefully we can visit this idea again, I was looking forward to it too!
Hey I bet these directors have a stash of nonpov content from scenes they produced, probably have bloopers and all kinds of extra content that I'd like to see. I'm pretty sure there's a huge vault, lol upload it! It's content!
One rule I'd like to suggested for non pov, is back me up, the close ups are fine, but don't keep me up close for to long, especially during the whole sex action, also don't worry about blurriness if u backing up to far, and ur worried it's going look blurry, don't worry, just scoot me back enough where you fill its good and take 3 more steps back again, lol...oh and less camera movement when walking with cam filming sex, it's OK it's fine you move around, just do lil less during sex.
Also when doing any up close oral, upclose sucking tittys,, ass eating, upclose arm pit munching, kissing get some shoots in close as possible
Wonder what it be like to film nonpov but koalavr style with headcam on, I'd like to see that one day.
More nonpov!
Tadpole does great non pov and books familiar vr hotties too, send them some beefy studs bro to wreck shop!
Pornodan does good work too but they refuse to get better camera for better quality.
There's actually quite a bit nonpov but its lacking booking our favorite vr pov hotties!
Bro I wonder if directors like the idea of producing more non pov, probably gives them room for more creativity.
I'm here for it! Nonpov!
Yall see me saying more pt or talking about pt like i use too? Pt guy lol
ptgang
, no cuz there's so much of it in a short time, do more nonpov, and I'll
lol
More nonpov will be fun!
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There is some strrrretttccchhed logic here. Let me help you out with some view stats.
Great day with Violeta POV 6.6k views
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/great-day-with-violeta-46641
Sex with Violeta from another point of view NONPOV 3.9k views
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/sex-with-violeta-from-another-point-of-view-46680
Sex In The Car And Nature With Daruma POV 8.9k views
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/sex-in-the-car-and-nature-with-daruma-46348
SEX WITH DARUMA FROM ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW NONPOV 4.7k views
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/sex-with-daruma-from-another-point-of-view-46433
Blowjob With Ice Cream And Mitzi X POV 7.1k views
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/blowjob-with-ice-cream-and-mitzi-x-51813
Blowjob With Mitzi From A Different Perspective NONPOV 3.4k views
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/blowjob-with-mitzi-from-a-different-perspective-51950
Merry Anal Christmas Sex With Paula Shy POV 6.9k views
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/merry-anal-christmas-sex-with-paula-shy-51151
Christmas Anal Sex From A Different Perspective NONPOV 3.5k views
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/christmas-anal-sex-from-a-different-perspective-51189
Christmas sex with Mitzi POV 12k views
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/christmas-sex-with-mitzi-50803
Christmas Sex With Mitzi From A Different Perspective NONPOV 3.8k views
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/christmas-sex-with-mitzi-from-a-different-perspective-50859
Ten to One (POV) - Surrounded by the Hottest Stars in SLR Original Harem Scene POV 387k views
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/ten-to-one-pov-27972
Ten to One (Non POV) - Harem Reverse Gangbang 3D Porn Voyeur NonPOV 79k views
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/ten-to-one-non-pov-27387
You're welcome. Now you can concretely point at comparable scenes and say with some support that POV views vs nonPOV views is anywhere from 2:1 to 5:1. That is evidence with stats to back it up. It shows that nonPOV is not an insignificant market. And lends some support for the argument for dual versions of scenes.
Vrsumo2017 Tadpole does great non pov
Vrsumo2017 Pornodan does good work too
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fuccaneer
This proves my original point. In most of these scenes it's a 2:1 ratio so based in this, for every 2 POV scenes there should be 1 Non-POV. Unfortunately this is not the case.
Additionally, these scenes are mostly done with a POV mindset and the Non-POV is more of an afterthought. If it was shot to get the best Non-POV angles like what Vroomed/Vrixxen/Immersex does i bet it would do a lot better than 2:1.
Tadpol & PornoDan doesn't do it for me. Its too amateurish, poor video quality, they don't shoot close up and I simply cannot watch overweight people whether it be male or female performers.
Jaysmart1432 This proves my original point. In most of these scenes it's a 2:1 ratio so based in this, for every 2 POV scenes there should be 1 Non-POV. Unfortunately this is not the case.
I do not think this proves your point at all. I think the opposite.
I guessing 1 out of every 10 videos is NON POV maybe less. It gets half or less of the views as POV. So if you make even more NON then you have the same amount of people that like NON but now they are watching different videos which just brings down the numbers for every NON video.
Same thing is going to happen to PT videos. Right now SLR makes one a week so if there are 20 new videos a day that is 140 regular to 1 PT a week. If 500,000 views happen in a week over all videos and 40,000 people like PT. SLR puts out 1 PT scene then it gets 40,000 views. Some people believe that shows that it is somehow the most popular type of VR because it got the most views. But that is not what the numbers mean. It might mean there is room for more PT but as you add more PT videos then the numbers per video are going to go DOWN.
Same for NON. There are NON videos now that @fuccaneer shows the numbers. If you add more then each will receive less. Making it less and less profitable. That is supple and demand 101
non poverty with a fixed camera is almost as boring as povery.
just move the camera around is it that much to ask?
pkloverx (VR active owners around 7 mil, % of population that watches porn is a bit less than half, so let's say 2mil watch porn and use VR)
There is clearly a big percentange of people that are turned away. They know about VR porn, but they aren't interested in it, they'd rather watch flatscreen.
How do you just jump around with these numbers? How do you know "There is clearly a big percentange of people that are turned away. They know about VR porn, but they aren't interested in it, they'd rather watch flatscreen."
Have you ever considered that maybe just maybe that a lot of the people that buy VR headsets are kids? hmmm.
It might be hard for a 14 year old to get his parents CC to get a SLR account.
Big conspiracy people love to look at one number and then cram it into their idea of what they want to be true.
SchnuppiLilac lol haf
areBee But it is inherently submissive to be made to watch the sex instead of having it yourself.
...yea, that's a good way of putting it. If non-pov wants to be as popular as POV, they need to address that issue. The easiest way to do that is to depersonalise the male talent by putting them in masks (as i points out somewhere else). i've no problem watching sweaty bodies, i get completely turned off by the manly faces.
If SLR wants to shoot some 'test' non-pov, i suggest you depersonalise your males. Allow us to project ourselves onto them. VR is too immersive to ignore some chap making eye contact with you when you're cracking one out...
Jaysmart1432 ...yup, i'm just completely put off by that scene, but only by one thing, his face. She's hot, his bodies hot, he's got a lovely cock, but urrgh! He has a face! Goddamn it.
@doublevr ...how about an AI mask that obscures the face of male talent in non-pov? Obviously, it could go completely wrong and look ridiculous. Depends on how faithfully the AI can map to the profile. A good fit would avoid everyone looking like they have Mr Blobby faces, might work quite well. 200IQ move, you offer the consumer the opportunity to scan and upload their face, so they can watch themselves fucking. ULTIMATE PROJECTION! You can't cuck yourself...
xD
InfiniteFun
"Problem is he has a face" LOL
It doesn't bother me personally cause I focus on the chic!! These studios really know how to get great closeup positions!! Wish the US studios would learn from them!!
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More nonpov!
Bro I'm going through the beginning of time finding sum gems in the nonpov category! Bro most of these I've never seen so they kinda new.
But yeah man more nonpov, make new channels and book top vr pornstar hotties for nonpov! Will be awesome!
Vrsumo2017
Since there are so few, it has made me go and dig for old videos too lol, it's pretty fun to find hidden gems!
I made a playlist some months ago, it's incomplete though I left it uncompleted... My intention was to collect all the old hidden gem videos but this is only 40%
https://www.sexlikereal.com/playlists/voyeurh-876379
pkloverx awesome bro! I will go through the list!
A lot of creativity in the beginning. You think? I think.
Vrsumo2017
Do you have the link to the scene of your photo?
pkloverx
Good list and have seen most of them. However, these Non-POVs have not improved much in quantity and quality as the POV have!!!
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Bro look how close her face was to the cam, that was amazing bro!
Get it that close, for the "close ups"
And imagine if we had this view with all the many vr pornstar hotties! Jizzus!
More nonpov!
Check out the nonpov gifs I uploaded
https://www.redgifs.com/users/vrsumo
Found some amazing content!