fuccaneer
This proves my original point. In most of these scenes it's a 2:1 ratio so based in this, for every 2 POV scenes there should be 1 Non-POV. Unfortunately this is not the case.

Additionally, these scenes are mostly done with a POV mindset and the Non-POV is more of an afterthought. If it was shot to get the best Non-POV angles like what Vroomed/Vrixxen/Immersex does i bet it would do a lot better than 2:1.

      Vrsumo2017

      Tadpol & PornoDan doesn't do it for me. Its too amateurish, poor video quality, they don't shoot close up and I simply cannot watch overweight people whether it be male or female performers.

        Jaysmart1432 This proves my original point. In most of these scenes it's a 2:1 ratio so based in this, for every 2 POV scenes there should be 1 Non-POV. Unfortunately this is not the case.

        I do not think this proves your point at all. I think the opposite.
        I guessing 1 out of every 10 videos is NON POV maybe less. It gets half or less of the views as POV. So if you make even more NON then you have the same amount of people that like NON but now they are watching different videos which just brings down the numbers for every NON video.

        Same thing is going to happen to PT videos. Right now SLR makes one a week so if there are 20 new videos a day that is 140 regular to 1 PT a week. If 500,000 views happen in a week over all videos and 40,000 people like PT. SLR puts out 1 PT scene then it gets 40,000 views. Some people believe that shows that it is somehow the most popular type of VR because it got the most views. But that is not what the numbers mean. It might mean there is room for more PT but as you add more PT videos then the numbers per video are going to go DOWN.

        Same for NON. There are NON videos now that @fuccaneer shows the numbers. If you add more then each will receive less. Making it less and less profitable. That is supple and demand 101

          non poverty with a fixed camera is almost as boring as povery.
          just move the camera around is it that much to ask?

          pkloverx (VR active owners around 7 mil, % of population that watches porn is a bit less than half, so let's say 2mil watch porn and use VR)

          There is clearly a big percentange of people that are turned away. They know about VR porn, but they aren't interested in it, they'd rather watch flatscreen.

          How do you just jump around with these numbers? How do you know "There is clearly a big percentange of people that are turned away. They know about VR porn, but they aren't interested in it, they'd rather watch flatscreen."
          Have you ever considered that maybe just maybe that a lot of the people that buy VR headsets are kids? hmmm.
          It might be hard for a 14 year old to get his parents CC to get a SLR account.

          Big conspiracy people love to look at one number and then cram it into their idea of what they want to be true.

            areBee But it is inherently submissive to be made to watch the sex instead of having it yourself.

            ...yea, that's a good way of putting it. If non-pov wants to be as popular as POV, they need to address that issue. The easiest way to do that is to depersonalise the male talent by putting them in masks (as i points out somewhere else). i've no problem watching sweaty bodies, i get completely turned off by the manly faces.

            If SLR wants to shoot some 'test' non-pov, i suggest you depersonalise your males. Allow us to project ourselves onto them. VR is too immersive to ignore some chap making eye contact with you when you're cracking one out...

              Jaysmart1432 ...yup, i'm just completely put off by that scene, but only by one thing, his face. She's hot, his bodies hot, he's got a lovely cock, but urrgh! He has a face! Goddamn it.

              @doublevr ...how about an AI mask that obscures the face of male talent in non-pov? Obviously, it could go completely wrong and look ridiculous. Depends on how faithfully the AI can map to the profile. A good fit would avoid everyone looking like they have Mr Blobby faces, might work quite well. 200IQ move, you offer the consumer the opportunity to scan and upload their face, so they can watch themselves fucking. ULTIMATE PROJECTION! You can't cuck yourself...

              xD

                  InfiniteFun
                  "Problem is he has a face" LOL 😆 😂 🤣 😅
                  It doesn't bother me personally cause I focus on the chic!! These studios really know how to get great closeup positions!! Wish the US studios would learn from them!! 🙏

                    More nonpov!

                    Bro I'm going through the beginning of time finding sum gems in the nonpov category! Bro most of these I've never seen so they kinda new.

                    But yeah man more nonpov, make new channels and book top vr pornstar hotties for nonpov! Will be awesome! 👍

                      pkloverx awesome bro! I will go through the list! 👍

                      A lot of creativity in the beginning. You think? I think.

                        pkloverx
                        Good list and have seen most of them. However, these Non-POVs have not improved much in quantity and quality as the POV have!!!

                          Bro look how close her face was to the cam, that was amazing bro! 👏

                          Get it that close, for the "close ups"

                          And imagine if we had this view with all the many vr pornstar hotties! Jizzus! 🥵

                          More nonpov!

                          Check out the nonpov gifs I uploaded
                          https://www.redgifs.com/users/vrsumo

                          Found some amazing content!

                            Sorry guys but I just did a quick check. On average non-pov video get less that a 1/3 of the views that POV video.
                            Voyeur is a niche. But It could be good to have the official stats.

                              Bob007
                              pretty much all of the non-pov vids are produced by studios outside the mainstream so probably a good reason the disparity in views. if non-pov scenes are produced using the top "name" stars would probably see an increase in numbers. here is an SLR original scene, a great one i may add, that has over 6k favorites, more than a lot of other SLR Originals, and there are several JackAndJill and other studios that have non-pov scenes favorited/bookmarked in the thousands.

                              [https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/all-the-news-thats-fit-to-fuck-26630