This has been debated many times throughout all the comments. The POV fans say that VR allows you be part of the scene and if you want Non-POV stick to 2D porn. The Non-POV fans feel that watching another couple in VR for the voyeur experience is much more realistic on VR than in 2D and there is room for both.

My personal favorite is cuckold Non-POV since I get the Voyeur experience while still being part of the situation. POV doesn't do it for me since I simply cannot put myself in the body of the guy, especially since I have plenty of sex in real life.

The fact is that about 95% of all VR porn is POV. Out of the 5% Non-POV most of them are done by European studios where the quality of the woman is mediocre (although they know how to shoot the best). There are a few really good amateur scenes by VRhotwife, newpornstarlets and one done recently by Misslexavr and mysweetapple. Additionally, jacknjill have some good material.

My issue is that there has to be a larger percentage of people who enjoy Non-POV out there so why aren't more of the larger studios like SLR stepping up to the plate ??? Additionally, you are already bringing in and paying the actors so you might as well get 2 scenes!!!

    Jaysmart1432 Well said, personally I love both POV and Non-POV in VR in addition to Solo too. I believe anything done in VR looks great if it's done right with high quality of course. Best regards.

        Completely agree. Quite a bit of selection bias in the vr world. Nearly everything is pov. And then they wonder why everyone here just loves pov. Because most people who don't just leave the vr world.... for now....

        I liked the early days of lustrealitr where they did the same scene as a POV and Voyeur - My preference would flip between one and the other

        Jaysmart1432 VRhotwife

        Fosho bro 👍
        Someone should send some of our favorite vr hotties to their house, book sum top vr stars!

        I'm ready to see sum vr hotties get smashed in nonpov!

        Let's stop playing!

        The pov is great, they pretty much got that down, it will go no where's it will always be produce as content, and im for that too! more pov! 🎉

        But let's move to nonpov and figure out why it wasnt successful in the beginning, one thing I hated was the cam was up to close the whole time plus the scale was super large, don't fall into that method today filming nonpov, I like unclose its fine for upclose ass eating, oral, kissing, sucking titties, get it as close as possible when moving in with the cam for sex parts like that, I'm fine with that, but don't put my face next to guys hip watching him do doggy, it's fine but not the whole time, pull me back, let me get a breather and enjoy the full view.

        Bro nonpov will be amazing, sad they took the focus off nonpov and focused more on pov over the years but im also glad pov is a great shape right now! sure we have non pov content...but I'm looking for non pov from the top sites, vrhush use to do nonpov, was great!

        Lol and these male models they use on a regular you already know who's dicks who's but we never see their faces or hear their voices, let's change that. I want male voice in pov, I wanna hear both of them fucking like wild animals. Do I want that in every pov? No but would like to see it happen more.

        Fuck bro we missed out on a lot of vr hotties smashing in non pov, we could of been peeking into pornstar hotties bed rooms watching them fuck and look beautiful too in action!

        It's all kinds of content we missed out on in vr.

        Them bangbros videos where guy pulls up to females walking and takes them home, we can do that in non pov and add in pov, it will be great!

        But yeah, I seen so much pov, it's great! But I'm read for the next phase in vr!

        And don't tell me watch 2d, I want to be "immersed" you can sit me on a couch and watch a couple fuck, that's immersed, it's not one on one pov sex but I'm still sitting there watching this couple, im still immersed? Lol 😆

          Agreed. I love the non pov voyeur stuff just as much as pov. I think you can do both doesn’t have to be one or the other. The main issue with the voyeur is the studios doing them it’s lower quality than the pov stuff. Imagine if Jack and Jill were able to get VRBangers level resolution. That would be wild as I think they currently have some of the best casting at the moment.

          Yeah, it sucks that those people who can't get into POV VR don't get a bigger selection, but let's not kid ourselves here--studios will make whatever sells the best. "Chicken or egg" it all you want, but, if the market for non-POV VR was really there, someone would jump into it.

            doublevr no one knows to do it right.

            OK. That may be worth exploring a bit.

            Can anyone explain how to improve non-POV VR besides "moar, please"?
            If there is something currently lacking (besides quantity), that would convince people to better appreciate non-POV, I would love to consider it for my own use.

              ...if i had to put my finger on it, i'd say i like watching girls in VR, but not men specifically, though i don't mind if they don't get in the way. So that checks POV, and all the 'just girl(s) on camera' stuff. Non-POV with male talent then really comes down to specifics, i quite like a big orgy (equal numbers M/F) where the girls are up front and centre (especially if the put the blokes in masks), not turned on by being more intimately involved with a scene that concentrates more fairly on both participants, much less so for MMMF or wtvr, where it's just constant ugly sweaty hairy man bodies obstructing the actress!

              However, watching in 2D i'll watch any number of gentlemen rodger some poor lass senseless, but not in VR, sadly. i think it's something to do with the immersive layer? When i'm watching in 2D i can 'project' my empathy onto any actor, the males or females if i choose, in effect i can 'be' the actor in a 2D quite easily. i find it non-obtrusive. It's how you empathies with any character when watching TV, it's just what one does. You just exist in the mind's eye within the frame.

              But in VR there's an added level of intimacy, which brings me just a bit too close to the action for me to enjoy watching some chap who looks like the local builder getting his rocks off. Maybe if i was watching Henry Cavill, i'd be more interested, but to be fair, they don't hire male talent for their boyish charms and good looks. Once you've cut the face off it's okay, i can make that body mine, but leave some stubbly chap in there looking at me... eww, no thanks.

              Just thinking about the masks again, that actually helps a lot, if someday wants to bring more people into non-POV that might be a way in, just put a spandex hood on the poor chap, then we can all project easier, i guess.

              Have no problems watching tranny's fucking ladies, they always look good. i do love watching BDSM and fetish non-POV, but that tends to put the girl front and centre, and of course that shit turns me on, so i'm much more engaged. Also, the men tend to keep most of their clothes on when they're doming, so less hairy ass in your face.

              Just kinda how i feel, i think there's plenty of room in VR porn for endless non-POV and POV and wtvr comes next, so bring it all on, there's so much more to learn...

              Even though I love both, and would wish for more non pov content, I see some difficulties here.

              1. Keeping it non-pov, the directors prefer to keep the cam moving which is great tbh but is limiting with the cameras and equipment they could choose. That's why a lot of lower quality 5k and 6k content is produced.
              2. Those using toys might not prefer the non pov view. Have noticed this quite often in comments.
              3. Moving cam needs perfect stability. A few studios do it right but quite often they do mess up. And it's another piece of equipment that eats up their budget. Most have this jitter or sudden movement, that would throw off a lot of users.
              4. Lens focus/sharpness is a big issue even for fixed pov scenes. Heck SLRO had its fair share of issues.
                For fixed non-pov, the models keep moving a lot with positions, etc. It gets tricky for the director to keep everyone in focus i guess.
                Gets worse with focus issues if it's a moving cam non-pov scene.

              Studios are picking the low hanging fruit here, so understandable seeing so much of pov content.
              Give it time, it'll grow as the vr space grows.

                alphaRonaldo Those using toys might not prefer the non pov view.

                I watch nonpov with a torso, dreamcam channel...watching them fuck as I fuck my torso, it's like we all fucking 🤷‍♂️

                I enjoy it all! Pov nonpov! 🤷‍♂️
                I'm ready for the freakoff parties! "Orgies"

                Yall never seen them short vr films in amazedvr on gearvr? I use to watch these and think wow if they had some sex in these films would be great.

                Bro eventually, or they doing it now but more movies will be made in vr, "nonpov"

                Reps, that's how nonpov improves, gotta just film it, it'll get better as we go. 👍

                  I appreciate all your comments. I totally understand that there are many different preferences and different strokes for different folks. However, why don't the studios realize this and why do they continue to focus on the same content????? There's plenty of room for both POV and Non-POV!!!

                  I happen to think that VRixxen/Vroomed does a really good job with Non-POV and shoot some incredible close angles that no other studios have mastered. However, the quality of most of their actors just do not match up..... and they use the same few people over and over. Imagine we had those same scenes but with hot english speaking porn stars!!!!

                    Jaysmart1432 How do the numbers stack up against the POV scenes they shoot? That will be the big decider for the studios

                      "Non-POV kinda sucks IMO unless you're into cuckold stuff. There's nothing "virtually real" about sitting in a corner watching other people bang."
                      HughMungus The second sentence contradicts the first. You are virtually really getting cucked. I think this is true of all 3rd person porn, including flat, people just don't notice because flat doesn't feel real.
                      First time I saw a voyeur VR scene I removed the headset within seconds because of the strong emotional response (being scared/uncomfortable) I had. It's similar to getting sexually assaulted I guess.
                      Now that I'm more used to it I can watch a scene like that and I can enjoy it if I'm in the mood. But it is inherently submissive to be made to watch the sex instead of having it yourself. And I usually want to fuck the female talent myself after a while so I check if there's POV content by her as well before I start so I can switch to that when the urge to become active gets too much.
                      I think the amount of voyeur VR is just right for the amount of people that want it. I understand that the (English) acting from Euro studios is not great and I'd actually prefer if they were just speaking their native tongues, as I don't need to understand what they're saying, emotion expressed in the acting still translates. Also true for POV actually.
                      But voyeur is just not large enough a market to sustain higher quality content. Just support what is there, like Jack & Jill.

                          HughMungus

                          it allows you to see the girls from head to toe in action instead of a closeup of nipples in your face, arm pits and vr cosplaying the role of some random dude the whole scene, etc., nonPOV more akin to sitting a few feet back and watching a ballet dancer do her thing, pornographically speaking, and as many have said literally like watching the porn we've been watching for decades but it's more like you're there... what's not to like? In the real world yeah, I'm sure most people prefer 1-on-1, but this is erotic escapism, and not like you have to go shouting from the rooftops what you like on VR, nobody will know. regardless if it's pov or nonpov it's not your dick in the scene so unless you can transcendental your way out of conscious thought that fact will always be present. i think there is room for both and think a nice variety would help vr grow as not everybody is into the same thing.

                              doublevr

                              not sure what you mean by nobody knows how to do it right, as I've seen several nonPOV scenes on SLR that look great to me.

                                The biggest factor for my enjoyment, is how natural/real the performance is.
                                I don't like when it feels cold and artificial, no matter the perspective, no matter the actors... That's why before VR, I didn't watch many professional vids, I always went to amateur/homemade videos on the hub and other sites that were recorded by real couples and that showed real passion...

                                Thing with POV is it limits this, as in order to record POV, the male actor has to lay like a mannequin, not interacting much, there is always something separating them in the middle.

                                So, in Non-Pov, the actors have a chance to display real passion and have fun, which is what i look for... But it's not a guarantee, there's lot of terrible performances in NonPov.

                                The upgrade I look forward to with NonPov, which we are already starting to see a little bit of, is real couples having fun, videos with that "Homemade" vibe... Here's two recent examples :

                                https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/cuckold-experience-hot-wife-gets-creampied-by-a-latin-stud-51991
                                and
                                https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/husband-perspective-hotwife-and-friend-hook-up-with-college-buddy-51298

                                I think NonPov is better suited for "Homemade amateur content" because it's just easier to record and doesen't get in the way of the couple, just like in the beginning of the homemade porn boom, couples just bought a camera and set it to a good enough angle and performed... And it absolutely dominated the porn scene for years to come because people value authenticity.

                                If I had the money to make a campaign to grow VR porn, I would go to onlyfans solo models and couples and invite them to SLR, giving them a camera for free, making it as convenient for them to record as possible, and NonPov is more conventient and easy than POV, you can even record flatscreen+VR in parallel like what cam models do...

                                I think there is a lot of untapped potential in VR porn because of how it is currently perceived by outsiders(simulation device). Just like VR videos used to be needleslly stuck with having to be 360 a few years ago, because of that same simulation ideal.

                                Thankfully we left part of that in the past, and moved on to high quality 180 degrees videos, and now 360 are much less popular. If VR video watching goes mainstream the same thing might happen with POV/NonPov, not just in porn but in general.
                                And in a small way I can already see it when I look at DEOVR SFW videos, the creators there already see this coming, they record 180 videos in a very similar style to regular flatscreen videos you would see on youtube.
                                However as all technology goes, porn is usually the spearhead, and so its VR Porn responsibility to bring in more people to try VR videos in general.

                                  Majority VR porn POV videos (what we have now)
                                  = Outsiders perceive VR porn as a simulation device, instead of watching a performance you wear it and actively pretend you are having sex with the images you see.

                                  Majority VR porn NonPov videos (what we don't have now)
                                  = Outisders perceive VR porn as an upgrade to flatscreen, you are still watching but with depth and higher quality.

                                  My crazy theory is that the majority of people that watch porn, just want to watch porn... They don't want to have sex with the video.
                                  And I'm not saying that when watching POV you have to do that, I am not judging POV,
                                  it's just how it is perceived by outsiders, since it's the most produced and advertised.