POV vs Non-POV

The biggest factor for my enjoyment, is how natural/real the performance is.
I don't like when it feels cold and artificial, no matter the perspective, no matter the actors... That's why before VR, I didn't watch many professional vids, I always went to amateur/homemade videos on the hub and other sites that were recorded by real couples and that showed real passion...

Thing with POV is it limits this, as in order to record POV, the male actor has to lay like a mannequin, not interacting much, there is always something separating them in the middle.

So, in Non-Pov, the actors have a chance to display real passion and have fun, which is what i look for... But it's not a guarantee, there's lot of terrible performances in NonPov.

The upgrade I look forward to with NonPov, which we are already starting to see a little bit of, is real couples having fun, videos with that "Homemade" vibe... Here's two recent examples :

https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/cuckold-experience-hot-wife-gets-creampied-by-a-latin-stud-51991
and
https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/husband-perspective-hotwife-and-friend-hook-up-with-college-buddy-51298

I think NonPov is better suited for "Homemade amateur content" because it's just easier to record and doesen't get in the way of the couple, just like in the beginning of the homemade porn boom, couples just bought a camera and set it to a good enough angle and performed... And it absolutely dominated the porn scene for years to come because people value authenticity.

If I had the money to make a campaign to grow VR porn, I would go to onlyfans solo models and couples and invite them to SLR, giving them a camera for free, making it as convenient for them to record as possible, and NonPov is more conventient and easy than POV, you can even record flatscreen+VR in parallel like what cam models do...

I think there is a lot of untapped potential in VR porn because of how it is currently perceived by outsiders(simulation device). Just like VR videos used to be needleslly stuck with having to be 360 a few years ago, because of that same simulation ideal.

Thankfully we left part of that in the past, and moved on to high quality 180 degrees videos, and now 360 are much less popular. If VR video watching goes mainstream the same thing might happen with POV/NonPov, not just in porn but in general.
And in a small way I can already see it when I look at DEOVR SFW videos, the creators there already see this coming, they record 180 videos in a very similar style to regular flatscreen videos you would see on youtube.
However as all technology goes, porn is usually the spearhead, and so its VR Porn responsibility to bring in more people to try VR videos in general.

Majority VR porn POV videos (what we have now)
= Outsiders perceive VR porn as a simulation device, instead of watching a performance you wear it and actively pretend you are having sex with the images you see.

Majority VR porn NonPov videos (what we don't have now)
= Outisders perceive VR porn as an upgrade to flatscreen, you are still watching but with depth and higher quality.

My crazy theory is that the majority of people that watch porn, just want to watch porn... They don't want to have sex with the video.
And I'm not saying that when watching POV you have to do that, I am not judging POV,
it's just how it is perceived by outsiders, since it's the most produced and advertised.

fuccaneer Whatever sells best yeah, look at how many views the top videos get then compare it to the overall VR population that watches porn.
(VR active owners around 7 mil, % of population that watches porn is a bit less than half, so let's say 2mil watch porn and use VR)

There is clearly a big percentange of people that are turned away. They know about VR porn, but they aren't interested in it, they'd rather watch flatscreen.

Why? That's anyones guess...
But when you put this perspective on you might start to see that "sells well" is very relative and putting it in this context... It just isn't

Jaysmart1432 There's plenty of room for both POV and Non-POV!!!

Slr mentioned years ago they were thinking about filming nonpov as extra clips from scenes they produced, so far they only did 1
Hopefully we can visit this idea again, I was looking forward to it too!

Hey I bet these directors have a stash of nonpov content from scenes they produced, probably have bloopers and all kinds of extra content that I'd like to see. I'm pretty sure there's a huge vault, lol upload it! It's content!

One rule I'd like to suggested for non pov, is back me up, the close ups are fine, but don't keep me up close for to long, especially during the whole sex action, also don't worry about blurriness if u backing up to far, and ur worried it's going look blurry, don't worry, just scoot me back enough where you fill its good and take 3 more steps back again, lol...oh and less camera movement when walking with cam filming sex, it's OK it's fine you move around, just do lil less during sex.

Also when doing any up close oral, upclose sucking tittys,, ass eating, upclose arm pit munching, kissing get some shoots in close as possible

Wonder what it be like to film nonpov but koalavr style with headcam on, I'd like to see that one day.

More nonpov!
Tadpole does great non pov and books familiar vr hotties too, send them some beefy studs bro to wreck shop!

Pornodan does good work too but they refuse to get better camera for better quality.

There's actually quite a bit nonpov but its lacking booking our favorite vr pov hotties!

Bro I wonder if directors like the idea of producing more non pov, probably gives them room for more creativity.

I'm here for it! Nonpov!
Yall see me saying more pt or talking about pt like i use too? Pt guy lol ptgang , no cuz there's so much of it in a short time, do more nonpov, and I'll lol

More nonpov will be fun!

Vrsumo2017 Tadpole does great non pov
Vrsumo2017 Pornodan does good work too

Jaysmart1432 This proves my original point. In most of these scenes it's a 2:1 ratio so based in this, for every 2 POV scenes there should be 1 Non-POV. Unfortunately this is not the case.

I do not think this proves your point at all. I think the opposite.
I guessing 1 out of every 10 videos is NON POV maybe less. It gets half or less of the views as POV. So if you make even more NON then you have the same amount of people that like NON but now they are watching different videos which just brings down the numbers for every NON video.

Same thing is going to happen to PT videos. Right now SLR makes one a week so if there are 20 new videos a day that is 140 regular to 1 PT a week. If 500,000 views happen in a week over all videos and 40,000 people like PT. SLR puts out 1 PT scene then it gets 40,000 views. Some people believe that shows that it is somehow the most popular type of VR because it got the most views. But that is not what the numbers mean. It might mean there is room for more PT but as you add more PT videos then the numbers per video are going to go DOWN.

Same for NON. There are NON videos now that @fuccaneer shows the numbers. If you add more then each will receive less. Making it less and less profitable. That is supple and demand 101

non poverty with a fixed camera is almost as boring as povery.
just move the camera around is it that much to ask?

pkloverx (VR active owners around 7 mil, % of population that watches porn is a bit less than half, so let's say 2mil watch porn and use VR)

There is clearly a big percentange of people that are turned away. They know about VR porn, but they aren't interested in it, they'd rather watch flatscreen.

How do you just jump around with these numbers? How do you know "There is clearly a big percentange of people that are turned away. They know about VR porn, but they aren't interested in it, they'd rather watch flatscreen."
Have you ever considered that maybe just maybe that a lot of the people that buy VR headsets are kids? hmmm.
It might be hard for a 14 year old to get his parents CC to get a SLR account.

Big conspiracy people love to look at one number and then cram it into their idea of what they want to be true.

SchnuppiLilac lol haf

areBee But it is inherently submissive to be made to watch the sex instead of having it yourself.

...yea, that's a good way of putting it. If non-pov wants to be as popular as POV, they need to address that issue. The easiest way to do that is to depersonalise the male talent by putting them in masks (as i points out somewhere else). i've no problem watching sweaty bodies, i get completely turned off by the manly faces.

If SLR wants to shoot some 'test' non-pov, i suggest you depersonalise your males. Allow us to project ourselves onto them. VR is too immersive to ignore some chap making eye contact with you when you're cracking one out...

Jaysmart1432 ...yup, i'm just completely put off by that scene, but only by one thing, his face. She's hot, his bodies hot, he's got a lovely cock, but urrgh! He has a face! Goddamn it.

@doublevr ...how about an AI mask that obscures the face of male talent in non-pov? Obviously, it could go completely wrong and look ridiculous. Depends on how faithfully the AI can map to the profile. A good fit would avoid everyone looking like they have Mr Blobby faces, might work quite well. 200IQ move, you offer the consumer the opportunity to scan and upload their face, so they can watch themselves fucking. ULTIMATE PROJECTION! You can't cuck yourself...

xD

Vrsumo2017
Since there are so few, it has made me go and dig for old videos too lol, it's pretty fun to find hidden gems!
I made a playlist some months ago, it's incomplete though I left it uncompleted... My intention was to collect all the old hidden gem videos but this is only 40%
https://www.sexlikereal.com/playlists/voyeurh-876379