Deovr on Pcvr is so much sharper than standalone deovr

SchnuppiLilac

jommy dakotaa__

Agreed! So far the only cam performer I have ever noticed that is really interacting with the VR cam/viewer (in public shows). And she seems to like it. Yesterday, when I was quickly checking out cams, she was doing POV-style sitting CG.

jommy

I seen her stream yesterday too, she was doing a jerk off with her hand behind the VR camera (no dildo) and it 100% looked/felt as real as a VR show possibly could - never seen that in any VR cam show before now!

Another easy to do thing that is rare imo, is when they are doing POV and look down where our cock would be - it works so well, but so rare 🤷

Her cam setup is smart, I think the 2D cam is stacked ontop of the VR one so they also get POV at the same time, and it's quite often VR users tipping for the actual eye contact

It's a shame there are so few VR streamers, a lot of them just use it because it's in the room at the studio they're working and not because they particular want to learn how to become good at VR

If SLR or Dreamcam/Stripchat wanted to, they could reach out to keen streamers and offer them a VR cam without any up-front cost and instead recoup the cost via token % or something

VRXVR

@jommy @SchnuppiLilac Dakota is one of my favorites! I love the eye contact in VR, First girl charmed me with VR eye contact is the absolute VR artist, the one and only "Felicity_Tease" My god she's stunning especially when she dances!

Cheers everyone!

bboy7895

doublevr I have pico 4/pico 4 ultra and quest 3 and running 3090 gpu.

VRXVR I think its due to render resolution, on standalone, its not running native resolution compare to pcvr. It's obvious when you can see how sharp the menu and text are.
Can you imagine being able to watch passthrough videos on pcvr 8k@120 fps, shit would be immersive af.

jommy pcvr is actually really easy, even easier than the quest 3. You just need to download pico connect, no need to waste money on virtual desktop.

SchnuppiLilac

bboy7895 on standalone, its not running native resolution compare to pcvr

I only just found this but it seems Sidequest app lets you increase Q3 render resolution and CPU/GPU performance. I guess it works since thumbnails seem to look sharper and video fps in DeoVR goes down substantially when using the highest render resolution and performance settings. For videos as such, I am not sure if they look better without direct comparison but probably they are.

bboy7895

SchnuppiLilac You said you mainly pcvr, do you get any audio lag, mainly videos with spatial audio? Im getting audio lag on all spatial audio video with my pico 4 ultra, not sure if it does the same for quest 3. I tried both pc audio aux and headset audio, and both ran into the same issue. I dont have an option to disable spatial audio.

Couple years back, I remember having the same problem with my quest 2, but there was a spatial option for me to disable it. This only happen on pcvr.

SchnuppiLilac

bboy7895 You said you mainly pcvr

I only use Q3 stand-alone, don't have a Windows PC. After having tweaked the settings with Sidequest (directly on the Q3), I noticed audio lag too but it was only one video out of many.

bboy7895

SchnuppiLilac my bad, it was meant for VRXVR. Yea, with standalone i dont have any of the audio issue.

VRXVR You said you mainly pcvr, do you get any audio lag, mainly videos with spatial audio? Im getting audio lag on all spatial audio video with my pico 4 ultra, not sure if it does the same for quest 3. I tried both pc audio aux and headset audio, and both ran into the same issue. I dont have an option to disable spatial audio. Im guessing spatial audio is enable by default which is causing the audio delay, but i cant disable it...

Couple years back, I remember having the same problem with my quest 2, but there was a spatial option for me to disable it. This only happen on pcvr.

VRXVR

bboy7895 Hello,

I don't get any audio lag at all when using regular Stereo or Spatial audio for both Gaming and watching videos. Even the videos in a Facebook 360 TBE 8.2 format provided in the Original Studio Matroska container (.mkv video files) Even with 10 bit VR videos. Or playing heavy games like Half Life Alyx with Steam Audio HRTF or other VR games with binaural audio.

The experience is the same for both my previous headset (Quest 2) and current headset (Quest 3).

I use the following hardware/ software:
My current PC Specs are: Intel Core i9-14900K/ RTX 4080/ 32BG DDR5 2800 MHz Memory.

Quest 3 up to date with latest V72 update. I don't have any Games, Apps or files installed on it currently after I am done many testing/ experiencing with it.

JSAUX Oculus Link 2 in 1 Connector and Charger for Quest 2/ 3 connected to USB 3.0 port directly on the Motherboard, NOT on the PC case ports, be aware of that! As I had awful experiences with them.

Windows 11 Pro Version 24H2 up to date with all drivers and have the free HEVC Codec installed from Microsoft store (HEVC Video Extensions from Device Manufacturer) NOT the 1$ paid one from Microsoft, which is awful and not always working BTW. I also have the AV1 Video Extension from Microsoft Store. I don't have ANY other video codecs/ LAVFilters installed on my PC. Believe me, you'll save yourself MANY problems.

Official Meta Quest Link App and SteamVR and enables the "Oculus Virtual Audio Device" or "Steam Streaming Speakers" depending on the game and use scenarios. I don't use Virtual Desktop or any other Apps.

DeoVR from Steam with "Direct show" turned Off. Don't use this garbage, always use the hardware accelerated playback engine in any VR video player which uses GPU decoders for example.

As I'm not familiar with Pico headsets unfortunately, I don't know about their PC audio drivers quality and stability compared to Meta, so I can't help with that.

Here is what I humbly can help with (some obvious, some advanced):

1- Just for a simple and quick testing. Try to play the video file with the Windows Modern Media Player App first in the regular Windows desktop mode, if it worked perfectly in terms of video smooth playback and the audio is supported and synced perfectly with the video (You'll get a Notification if the Audio is not supported) then it should play perfectly with DeoVR and any other VR video players since all of them uses/ prefers the newer "Media Foundation Codecs" instead of the older "DirectShow Codecs".

2- Be sure of the video file you are playing is encoded with HEVC or AV1 and not any other garbage. Believe me, there are STILL Studios using dumb codecs for high resolution video files which are not supported by the CPU, APU (Accelerated Processing Unit) or GPU decoders. You can use "MediaInfo" to check the video codec. Avoid ANY video that's not encoded with HEVC or AV1 when its resolution is higher than 4K. Convert it yourself if necessary, to do that, I suggest the free version of "Any Video Converter" and set its decoding setting to HEVC.

3- Uninstall ANY Codecs/ Filters you have and just keep HEVC and AV1 video extensions from Microsoft Store. Sometimes you'll need third-party softwares to do this unfortunately as you should remove whatever values they left in Windows Registry, too.

4- Use a high quality cable to connect your headset to PC directly to the PC Motherboard's USB 3.0+ Port as I mentioned previously. I suggest the "JSAUX Oculus Link 2 in 1 Connector and Charger" worked great with my Q2 and still work great with Q3.

5- Be sure that both your PC hardware and OS/ Software doesn't have any conflicts or weird issues/ activities and you have the latest Pico 4 Ultra firmware and Pico Connect up to date with all its virtual audio drivers and be sure the "Direct show" is turned Off in your VR Video Player Settings.

Sorry for the long post, I know we all want a simple, short answers and quick solutions but it's not always the case unfortunately 🙁

Tell me how things turned to you after you try these steps and if we can spot the issue together.

Best of luck and best regards.

doublevr

Can you guys just wrap it up what's the perfect setup and what you are watching so I can do the same to see the difference

VRXVR

doublevr Hello,

Absolutely. My PC Specs:
Intel Core i9-14900K
RTX 4080
32BG DDR5 2800 MHz
Windows 11 Pro 24H2
Nvidia Game Ready Drivers Version: 572.16
Quest 3 with V72 update

Oculus Link software Resolution Setting (PC Render Resolution) is 5408x2912 @72Hz

Oculus Debug Tool Settings:
Distortion Curvature: Low
Encode Resolution Width: 4128
Encode Bitrate (Mbps): 500
Link Sharpening: Enabled

I use high quality cable that both connects and charges the headset at the same time, plugged directly In the USB 3.2 Gen 2 port on my Motherboard.

VR Video Player: DeoVR from Steam Version: 14.5.2738 with "Direct Show" Setting Turned Off.
ONLY Codecs I have Installed from Microsoft Store:
HEVC Video Extensions from Device Manufacturer/ AV1
No other codecs or LAVFilters at all.

My testing methods and results using Steam DeoVR (Using Oculus Link) vs Standalone DeoVR (Using Quest 3):

1- While browsing SLR, the overall App, especially the thumbnails are higher in quality with Steam version compared to the Standalone version on Quest 3.

2- VR Cams (In the Rooms) everything looks sharper and the colors looked more vived with Steam version vs Standalone.

3- Watching the recent 8K SLRO Original high bitrate downloaded video files on the PC looked sharper, cleaner and smoother compared to Quest 3.
In this test, I copied the same Original files from the PC to: Quest 3\Internal shared storage\Oculus\Videos. And played it natively from there, In order to have fair comparison between the two platforms/ Apps.

As I was thinking and digging deeper with these test results, I strongly believe it's not the DeoVR Standalone App fault, but it's more of the Quest 3 render limitation that is even lower than its native total resolution. Maybe because of processing power limitations/ Running the device cooler/ Saving Battery life, Or all of these combined.

Please tell me if you need more clarification/ Information.

Respectfully and best regards.

bboy7895

VRXVR for 500+ bitrate, the encode will need to be set to 264.

thnx for the suggesting, im about to give it a try right now.

bboy7895

metichemsi actually, if you watch local videos on standalone, the quality is still not there, only in pcvr. In pcvr, the streaming quality, imo is the same as watching it locally. I'm speaking from deovr.

VRXVR I was able to fixed the audio delay by uninstalling nvidia audio driver and k-lite codec, not sure which was the culprit, but the problem has be solved. Thnx bro!

metichemsi

Funny, I remember people saying how DeoVR is dead and that its stupid to download the highest quality videos for local playback instead but suddenly this has become some realization haha. If you want even better visual fidelity use a proper video player app like heresphere instead of that outdate Deovr app from steam. I like to add 5 sharpness on all the videos and it makes everything pop so much better without introducing a negative noticeable amount of noise. Also using steamVR you can increase your render percentage to over 100% if you have a good enough PC. I usually render my headset to 200-250% its native resolution and I have a super old GPU 2080ti

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