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  • Deovr on Pcvr is so much sharper than standalone deovr

bboy7895 I wonder why Deovr looks so much sharper on PCVR than on standalone?

Maybe because of RTX 5090 $2,000 and Q3 $500? 🙂

    Ssiebert204 yes, def better and the video looks smoother too. Im guessing standalone deovr runs at a lower render resolution than the native resolution.

    SchnuppiLilac huh? I have 3090 and pico 4 ultra.

    bboy7895 Read your post yesterday; didn't want to comment before I tested that myself using Quest 3 with USB Link on my PC with RTX 4080, and I have the encoding bitrate set to 500 Mbps via the Quest debug tool. I installed the DeoVR app on my Quest 3. Going back and forth between the two, my God, you're absolutely right!!! Even if I lowered the encoding bitrate to only 200 Mbps! WTH!!! I'm solely a PCVR user, even for watching VR porn videos using the DeoVR Steam version; hence I didn't use the DeoVR Quest app for VR porn before; I only used it to try to convince myself with PT videos, so I didn't know about this huge difference in the same VR video quality until you mentioned it. For me, I don't care at all about the PT videos; I didn't like them at all. And tried all you can imagine with mixed reality games and apps for the Quest 3 and were never impressed with even a single one of them, so I don't care about AR/MR too. Your discovery gives me the final push I need to sell my Q3 and invest in a pure PCVR headset, which will be the Pimax Crystal Light. I was struggling lately between PCVR and standalone, even asking for a USB OTG feature for the upcoming SLR HYPER App to overcome the last issue I have with standalone headsets after the processing power, which is the garbage limited storage. It seems like standalone headsets need way more years to catch up to PCVR in terms of graphics quality and capacity, and PCVR becomes more and more convenient to use with the latest SteamVR updates and current and upcoming headsets. I don't want to wait for standalone anymore. Kudos, man!

      Interesting, do the live cams look any better?

        jommy Absolutely. I tested that too, they are much sharper and the colors pop out better on PCVR Steam DeoVR vs Standalone Quest 3 DeoVR.

        VRXVR sell my Q3 and invest in a pure PCVR

        When I read this, I was wondering if it is a wise decision for SLR users to go full PCVR now, considering what was discussed about PCVR and SLR and Hyper over the last months. DeoVR on Steam with a 1% user base was pronounced dead, DeoVR will be phased out at some point and Hyper only seems to be developed for Meta, Apple and Phones. At some point, you may end up like the Q1 guys, being advised by doublevr to "better get one of these (link to blog post)". Just a thought...

          @bboy7895 can you give me a quick rundown of how to get this working on my pico?

          I setup virtual desktop streamer and have my PC screen connected to my pico but then what?

          DeoVR is installed to steam?

          PCVR isn't the easiest thing to get running on a pico lol

            jommy
            Hi, i got pico too, pcvr is same as others.

            ON PC:
            -search DEOVR in store, then download
            -open the page of the game, (where it say "play now", but don't click), then switch to headset

            ON HEADSET:
            connected via Virtual Desktop, click on "play now"

            --or--

            start virtual desktop and click "launch steamvr", steamVR enviroment will appear, with all your library

              SchnuppiLilac Valid thoughts, but it's not like I will leave a better platform and go to a lower one just because SLR or others said so and I'm not alone with this choice for sure. With all respects, SLR is a business and all business goes where the major market goes regardless of the user experience quality and that's ok to an extent. On the other hand, not all users can afford or care about the better experience on the better platform and that's also ok. If SLR's HYPER didn't come to Steam, I'll understand their decision and I'm not out at all, there's many alternatives for PCVR you know. I rather be on a way more powerful, open, flexible, expandable platform like PCVR than to deal with all these drawbacks of standalone headsets. The fact that I'll never get a powerful enough headset with the ability to expand its storage anytime soon if ever is a deal breaker to me even if it means I'm in the minority of the market share. In the end, I found PCVR is the clear winner for me when it comes for the positives vs. negatives between the two platforms. As for SLR and other studios features like PT Videos, AR, MR, Phones...etc... I really don't care about them at all. I think I'm a VR guy maybe because of the cohesive and enjoyable experience that only VR provided to me. Respectfully and best regards.

                Yeah with the rtx 5000 series that handles much higher then 8k resolutions and recent 4k per eye headset this difference will only be much bigger

                bboy7895 what's the gpu and headset you are using?
                Have to see it with my own eyes.
                The best quality so far should be coming with tge AVP release. Nothing beats that

                  There shouldn't be a big difference unless render resolution is getting forced low on Quest somehow. OVR metrics (opened from Quest Games Optimizer) says it's running in 2528x2640 resolution on Quest 3. I don't know if it's optimal but if you are running Virtual Desktop in Godlike mode it was (going off memory) something like 3072x3216 in quest (quest says 183% render scale vs 150% in DeoVR). In Quest Games Optimizer I set native Quest DeoVR to 200% render resolution (5040x5248) which is probably far beyond diminishing returns and the interface looks sharper than the default resolution but not sure it would make actual videos sharper (internal video resolution may be unaffected by application resolution but pure speculation). You can try to see if it makes a difference beyond the default resolution. If not it at least makes the interface look more clear with the trade off of some performance/battery.

                  edit: boosting res above default res scale does seem to have positive effects e.g. can pick out more detail in Shinchiros3DPhotos on DeoVR.com but A-B testing is not instant so can't say how much. I don't think it's placebo anyway. If that was validated perhaps create an HD mode like Skybox or 4xvr (with warning about performance hit/battery drain if significant). If there is a worry about confusion console gamers are getting used to performance/quality mode bifurcation.

                  Vadavial

                  Thanks for this! I'll give it a try

                  Is DeoVR gonna show up on steam profile games history or not due to being a 'software app'?

                  On steam I would always click on the DEO app that had a picture of a guy on a bike.
                  About 2 days ago another DEO app appeared in my suggestion that now just says DEO VR with a picture of tv screens in the background.
                  Is this the same app or is it a new one?
                  Either way a have to say it plays way better. The bike deo app would always studder like the picture was lagging just a little bit.
                  The new DEO plays perfectly. Is this just an update or new app? And is this what everybody on here is talking about?
                  @doublevr Thanks for the improvement

                    So I had a try of PCVR DeoVR using my 4090 on my Pico 4 and the interface while browsing SLR is INSANELY higher quality in PCVR. It's like comparing 480p with 4K

                    I can actually see the thumbnails of every video super clearly including the tiny parts - The normal DeoVR app is blurry low quality in comparison

                    I think the livecams were also higher quality (at least the highest quality cams)

                    Not sure on the actual videos as I often just download them anyway

                      jommy This is what we are trying to say to everyone, you have to see it with your own eyes to believe. Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING is higher in quality when using the PCVR Steam DeoVR vs. Standalone Quest 3 DeoVR. The interface, the Cams and the videos.

                      As for the live cams, I humbly suggest to check "Mandi4pole" she's not only amazing and deserve support, but she's using 6K VR Cam with perfect angle and scale and super clean lenses. She's really taking this seriously and professionally, you can see the difference in quality very clearly when you go back and forth between the two Platforms/ Apps with her Room.

                      As for the actual videos, I suggest to download the Original/ High bitrate of SLR's Originals recent 8K videos, and again, you can see the difference in quality in favor of PCVR DeoVR when you go back and forth, but remember, you have to copy that video from the PC to your headset's local storage and play it from there so you can have a fair comparison, this is what I did with my Quest 3. and I believe you'll see the difference even better than me, because Pico 4 is BETTER than Q3 for PCVR (2064x2208 pixels per eye with garbage tilted screens vs. 2160 x 2160 pixels per eye and standard, straight screens).

                      PS: Why I said garbage tilted screens? Because they cause aliasing issues when gaming and especially when reading texts. Why Meta did this garbage? Just to increase their headset's FOV on the specs paper. Not worth all the troubles they caused by this move at all.

                      Respectfully and Best Regards.

                        rerun119

                        I believe the app icons you mentioned, a guy on a bike and a picture of a TV screen, refer to the app list in your Oculus Rift library. Here's an example for reference

                        Just fyi:
                        The guy on a bike icon is for SteamVR DeoVR
                        C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\DeoVR Video Player

                        And the TV screen is for Oculus Rift DeoVR
                        C:\Program Files\Oculus\Software\Software\infomediji-d-o-o-deovr-video-player

                        There is 2 version of PCVR app for DeoVR 🙂
                        If you are using Quest device with link , I suggest you use the Oculus Rift DeoVR as the SteamVR version somehow just aint playing nicely with META Quest link

                        VRXVR

                        Yeah there are some really high quality VR cams and some very talented performers that understand how to utilise VR properly

                        I've seen' Mandi's stream, some good stuff especially her pole dancing. Someone else i'd recommend checking out is dakotaa__ - often has very close VR eye contact with hj/bj with the highest quality cam + lighting

                        I tried to watch vr.stripchat.com on DeoVR PCVR but the website isn't supported, it's a way better interface than SLR. I did notice that handset key bindings don't work in PCVR and trying to set them in the DeoVR app settings didn't work..

                        I'll have to take your word on the SLR Originals 8K on PCVR vs headset - normally I either stream them from DeoVR or have them already downloaded in 8K Original network share. I can believe there's a difference but it wasn't as huge of a difference like with the UI, at least for me

                          Agreed! So far the only cam performer I have ever noticed that is really interacting with the VR cam/viewer (in public shows). And she seems to like it. Yesterday, when I was quickly checking out cams, she was doing POV-style sitting CG.

                            @jommy @SchnuppiLilac Dakota is one of my favorites! I love the eye contact in VR, First girl charmed me with VR eye contact is the absolute VR artist, the one and only "Felicity_Tease" My god she's stunning especially when she dances!

                            Cheers everyone!