Deovr on Pcvr is so much sharper than standalone deovr

VRXVR

jommy Absolutely. I tested that too, they are much sharper and the colors pop out better on PCVR Steam DeoVR vs Standalone Quest 3 DeoVR.

SchnuppiLilac

VRXVR sell my Q3 and invest in a pure PCVR

When I read this, I was wondering if it is a wise decision for SLR users to go full PCVR now, considering what was discussed about PCVR and SLR and Hyper over the last months. DeoVR on Steam with a 1% user base was pronounced dead, DeoVR will be phased out at some point and Hyper only seems to be developed for Meta, Apple and Phones. At some point, you may end up like the Q1 guys, being advised by doublevr to "better get one of these (link to blog post)". Just a thought...

VRXVR

SchnuppiLilac Valid thoughts, but it's not like I will leave a better platform and go to a lower one just because SLR or others said so and I'm not alone with this choice for sure. With all respects, SLR is a business and all business goes where the major market goes regardless of the user experience quality and that's ok to an extent. On the other hand, not all users can afford or care about the better experience on the better platform and that's also ok. If SLR's HYPER didn't come to Steam, I'll understand their decision and I'm not out at all, there's many alternatives for PCVR you know. I rather be on a way more powerful, open, flexible, expandable platform like PCVR than to deal with all these drawbacks of standalone headsets. The fact that I'll never get a powerful enough headset with the ability to expand its storage anytime soon if ever is a deal breaker to me even if it means I'm in the minority of the market share. In the end, I found PCVR is the clear winner for me when it comes for the positives vs. negatives between the two platforms. As for SLR and other studios features like PT Videos, AR, MR, Phones...etc... I really don't care about them at all. I think I'm a VR guy maybe because of the cohesive and enjoyable experience that only VR provided to me. Respectfully and best regards.

jommy

@bboy7895 can you give me a quick rundown of how to get this working on my pico?

I setup virtual desktop streamer and have my PC screen connected to my pico but then what?

DeoVR is installed to steam?

PCVR isn't the easiest thing to get running on a pico lol

Vadavial

jommy
Hi, i got pico too, pcvr is same as others.

ON PC:
-search DEOVR in store, then download
-open the page of the game, (where it say "play now", but don't click), then switch to headset

ON HEADSET:
connected via Virtual Desktop, click on "play now"

--or--

start virtual desktop and click "launch steamvr", steamVR enviroment will appear, with all your library

bboy7895

doublevr I have pico 4/pico 4 ultra and quest 3 and running 3090 gpu.

VRXVR I think its due to render resolution, on standalone, its not running native resolution compare to pcvr. It's obvious when you can see how sharp the menu and text are.
Can you imagine being able to watch passthrough videos on pcvr 8k@120 fps, shit would be immersive af.

jommy pcvr is actually really easy, even easier than the quest 3. You just need to download pico connect, no need to waste money on virtual desktop.

jommy

Thanks for this! I'll give it a try

Is DeoVR gonna show up on steam profile games history or not due to being a 'software app'?

bboy7895

SchnuppiLilac my bad, it was meant for VRXVR. Yea, with standalone i dont have any of the audio issue.

VRXVR You said you mainly pcvr, do you get any audio lag, mainly videos with spatial audio? Im getting audio lag on all spatial audio video with my pico 4 ultra, not sure if it does the same for quest 3. I tried both pc audio aux and headset audio, and both ran into the same issue. I dont have an option to disable spatial audio. Im guessing spatial audio is enable by default which is causing the audio delay, but i cant disable it...

Couple years back, I remember having the same problem with my quest 2, but there was a spatial option for me to disable it. This only happen on pcvr.

fenderwq

Yeah with the rtx 5000 series that handles much higher then 8k resolutions and recent 4k per eye headset this difference will only be much bigger

doublevr

bboy7895 what's the gpu and headset you are using?
Have to see it with my own eyes.
The best quality so far should be coming with tge AVP release. Nothing beats that

quidnunc

There shouldn't be a big difference unless render resolution is getting forced low on Quest somehow. OVR metrics (opened from Quest Games Optimizer) says it's running in 2528x2640 resolution on Quest 3. I don't know if it's optimal but if you are running Virtual Desktop in Godlike mode it was (going off memory) something like 3072x3216 in quest (quest says 183% render scale vs 150% in DeoVR). In Quest Games Optimizer I set native Quest DeoVR to 200% render resolution (5040x5248) which is probably far beyond diminishing returns and the interface looks sharper than the default resolution but not sure it would make actual videos sharper (internal video resolution may be unaffected by application resolution but pure speculation). You can try to see if it makes a difference beyond the default resolution. If not it at least makes the interface look more clear with the trade off of some performance/battery.

edit: boosting res above default res scale does seem to have positive effects e.g. can pick out more detail in Shinchiros3DPhotos on DeoVR.com but A-B testing is not instant so can't say how much. I don't think it's placebo anyway. If that was validated perhaps create an HD mode like Skybox or 4xvr (with warning about performance hit/battery drain if significant). If there is a worry about confusion console gamers are getting used to performance/quality mode bifurcation.

rerun119

On steam I would always click on the DEO app that had a picture of a guy on a bike.
About 2 days ago another DEO app appeared in my suggestion that now just says DEO VR with a picture of tv screens in the background.
Is this the same app or is it a new one?
Either way a have to say it plays way better. The bike deo app would always studder like the picture was lagging just a little bit.
The new DEO plays perfectly. Is this just an update or new app? And is this what everybody on here is talking about?
@doublevr Thanks for the improvement

damson

I believe the app icons you mentioned, a guy on a bike and a picture of a TV screen, refer to the app list in your Oculus Rift library. Here's an example for reference

Just fyi:
The guy on a bike icon is for SteamVR DeoVR
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\DeoVR Video Player

And the TV screen is for Oculus Rift DeoVR
C:\Program Files\Oculus\Software\Software\infomediji-d-o-o-deovr-video-player

There is 2 version of PCVR app for DeoVR 🙂
If you are using Quest device with link , I suggest you use the Oculus Rift DeoVR as the SteamVR version somehow just aint playing nicely with META Quest link

jommy

So I had a try of PCVR DeoVR using my 4090 on my Pico 4 and the interface while browsing SLR is INSANELY higher quality in PCVR. It's like comparing 480p with 4K

I can actually see the thumbnails of every video super clearly including the tiny parts - The normal DeoVR app is blurry low quality in comparison

I think the livecams were also higher quality (at least the highest quality cams)

Not sure on the actual videos as I often just download them anyway

VRXVR

jommy This is what we are trying to say to everyone, you have to see it with your own eyes to believe. Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING is higher in quality when using the PCVR Steam DeoVR vs. Standalone Quest 3 DeoVR. The interface, the Cams and the videos.

As for the live cams, I humbly suggest to check "Mandi4pole" she's not only amazing and deserve support, but she's using 6K VR Cam with perfect angle and scale and super clean lenses. She's really taking this seriously and professionally, you can see the difference in quality very clearly when you go back and forth between the two Platforms/ Apps with her Room.

As for the actual videos, I suggest to download the Original/ High bitrate of SLR's Originals recent 8K videos, and again, you can see the difference in quality in favor of PCVR DeoVR when you go back and forth, but remember, you have to copy that video from the PC to your headset's local storage and play it from there so you can have a fair comparison, this is what I did with my Quest 3. and I believe you'll see the difference even better than me, because Pico 4 is BETTER than Q3 for PCVR (2064x2208 pixels per eye with garbage tilted screens vs. 2160 x 2160 pixels per eye and standard, straight screens).

PS: Why I said garbage tilted screens? Because they cause aliasing issues when gaming and especially when reading texts. Why Meta did this garbage? Just to increase their headset's FOV on the specs paper. Not worth all the troubles they caused by this move at all.

Respectfully and Best Regards.

jommy

Yeah there are some really high quality VR cams and some very talented performers that understand how to utilise VR properly

I've seen' Mandi's stream, some good stuff especially her pole dancing. Someone else i'd recommend checking out is dakotaa__ - often has very close VR eye contact with hj/bj with the highest quality cam + lighting

I tried to watch vr.stripchat.com on DeoVR PCVR but the website isn't supported, it's a way better interface than SLR. I did notice that handset key bindings don't work in PCVR and trying to set them in the DeoVR app settings didn't work..

I'll have to take your word on the SLR Originals 8K on PCVR vs headset - normally I either stream them from DeoVR or have them already downloaded in 8K Original network share. I can believe there's a difference but it wasn't as huge of a difference like with the UI, at least for me

SchnuppiLilac

jommy dakotaa__

Agreed! So far the only cam performer I have ever noticed that is really interacting with the VR cam/viewer (in public shows). And she seems to like it. Yesterday, when I was quickly checking out cams, she was doing POV-style sitting CG.

jommy

I seen her stream yesterday too, she was doing a jerk off with her hand behind the VR camera (no dildo) and it 100% looked/felt as real as a VR show possibly could - never seen that in any VR cam show before now!

Another easy to do thing that is rare imo, is when they are doing POV and look down where our cock would be - it works so well, but so rare 🤷

Her cam setup is smart, I think the 2D cam is stacked ontop of the VR one so they also get POV at the same time, and it's quite often VR users tipping for the actual eye contact

It's a shame there are so few VR streamers, a lot of them just use it because it's in the room at the studio they're working and not because they particular want to learn how to become good at VR

If SLR or Dreamcam/Stripchat wanted to, they could reach out to keen streamers and offer them a VR cam without any up-front cost and instead recoup the cost via token % or something

VRXVR

@jommy @SchnuppiLilac Dakota is one of my favorites! I love the eye contact in VR, First girl charmed me with VR eye contact is the absolute VR artist, the one and only "Felicity_Tease" My god she's stunning especially when she dances!

Cheers everyone!

SchnuppiLilac

bboy7895 on standalone, its not running native resolution compare to pcvr

I only just found this but it seems Sidequest app lets you increase Q3 render resolution and CPU/GPU performance. I guess it works since thumbnails seem to look sharper and video fps in DeoVR goes down substantially when using the highest render resolution and performance settings. For videos as such, I am not sure if they look better without direct comparison but probably they are.

bboy7895

SchnuppiLilac You said you mainly pcvr, do you get any audio lag, mainly videos with spatial audio? Im getting audio lag on all spatial audio video with my pico 4 ultra, not sure if it does the same for quest 3. I tried both pc audio aux and headset audio, and both ran into the same issue. I dont have an option to disable spatial audio.

Couple years back, I remember having the same problem with my quest 2, but there was a spatial option for me to disable it. This only happen on pcvr.

SchnuppiLilac

bboy7895 You said you mainly pcvr

I only use Q3 stand-alone, don't have a Windows PC. After having tweaked the settings with Sidequest (directly on the Q3), I noticed audio lag too but it was only one video out of many.

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