Downloads plan revamp

I feel like you should make an "unlimited download" tier, and price it accordingly.
But I agree it should be a "pay per use" type of thing, kind of like toll roads.

really bad move and will lose a lot of customers including me

doublevr Honestly, I saw this coming, just wasn't sure how or when. SLR has been taking smaller steps compared to VRB, who made a huge move by completely removing the download button. The goal is the same though, pushing people to use the app by streaming.

I just wanted to ask @doublevr, help me see things clearer, let's say in a year from now, you have 100% streaming users and 0 download allocations per month. How does this benefit your company beyond just 'collecting data'? Because personally, SLR is my favorite VR site and I do want to see it more successful, more success means better content for us.

[deleted] I think 100% removal of downloads like VRB did is a terrible idea. But 30/40/50 downloads a months plus extra when you stream for a few minutes… I personally don’t understand how some people are grabbing pitchforks over this. I think I download ALOT and I don’t reach this limit. The time it takes to download and storage space alone would not allow me to reach these limits.

I feel I am missing something as to why this amount of downloads per month is low. Or everyone just has 100TB of storage 10x fiber optics download speed

xeddin1 I think I download ALOT and I don’t reach this limit.

Then you're not downloading a lot.

xeddin1 I feel I am missing something as to why this amount of downloads per month is low. Or everyone just has 100TB of storage 10x fiber optics download speed

If you primarily stream then you wouldn't understand.

xeddin1 Currently I'm not downloading a lot as I'm mostly living at my partner's place. Streaming works ok for me here (when she's not around) but when at my own place I can and will easily download 100+ videos/month to my NAS server and sort them into folders, tags, etc.

Setting a limit at 30 or so a month wouldn't work for me as I much prefer my solution. Besides I don't get that I (a loyal subscriber) has to be limited because of others misuse.

Anyway I'll see how it goes and then nake my choice then.

xeddin1 Believe me, storage was never an issue for people. I had 5 hard drives, each with 4TB, all packed with VR content I loved or wanted to watch in the future from various sites I subbed to (no flat scenes). Last week, I bought another 5TB drive specifically for VRBangers. Looks like I'll need to get another one for SLR now!

xeddin1 I see you joined this forum about 12 days ago, around the time VRB removed downloads. So, you're probably one of their pawns or even one of SLR's (high chance you're doublevr himself). But here's the thing, I have 100mbit/s internet speed, which is enough to send emails and Zoom sessions for work I have no plans in making it faster, but it's not suitable for streaming 6k/8k VR content (4k works fine).

I'm a lifetime subscriber to VRB, but now I can't watch their content after they removed downloads. I'm glad somebody made that extension, which helped me use my 20 downloads/day for the last 10 days to fill up that hard drive.

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I joined the forums a few weeks ago because I am interested in making PMV content. Check out the links below for some of my work. Will have to do some research for storage, right now I’m using a thumb drive which is not the best option

[First VR PMV] - Made for fun
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/sy0pwo2gis112jqxnm87d/Champion.mp4?rlkey=tumzim9grvdwc1zy4e6mir3vo&st=i39440kv&dl=0

[First Passthrough VR PMV]
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ymtqoo1jv9m6v0btpw453/FullPassthroughVRPMV.mp4?rlkey=id4hnni90b9exxyf3w0ivkluo&st=vmfhfo52&dl=0

[Trailer for new VR PMV]
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/49awteeu9e4ec7vr6ezzr/beattest.mp4?rlkey=ighliqnghlkcuqmm4680ieb3y&st=18p5m67l&dl=0

xeddin1 I know, I've seen your posts and the threads you've made since you joined. That's the easiest story and bio SLR could come up with for a disguised agent. Maybe your career plan, resume, and personality are still written on a whiteboard in their office, even your Discord username...lol

Anyway, it doesn't matter. You don't have to prove anything to me or answer my conspiracy theories. Just help me understand how lowering the downloads per month benefits SLR.

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From the brief amount I’ve read, the main issue seems to be people signing up for a single month and downloading essentially the entire catalogue. This is further supported by the updates to this thread which to me shows SLR is targeting these individuals.

What’s wrong with my discord?

If downloads were removed entirely I’d be upset, but that’s clearly not the case. I’m in no position to judge, I’m just another loser posting on a porn forum after all….but if some of you guys are really downloading THAT much porn….please find some additional hobbies or things to be passionate about. I say this out of genuine concern as someone who admittedly also overindulges in my porn consumption at times. Your sex drive will diminish as you get older and at the end of the day you can’t take your downloads with you when you die. . Why are you hoarding so much porn?

Jeef
Exactly. People freaking out over being capped at like 50 downloads a month. Maybe I’m missing something but in reality I think people cry just to cry or they cry because they are the hoarders trying to have an entire website downloaded on a thumbdrive

As a user since 2020, I've already downloaded everything I'm interested in and just top up as good scenes come in - which is not many TBH. So far in June it's 10 scenes. So while newer users who are still discovering old and new content will be affected by download limits, I won't be - yet. My only hesitation with the policy is 1) download limits only go down, not up, so one day I may be affected and 2) if users leave in protest then that leaves less revenue to create new content. We all want SLR to flourish

xeddin1 There's nothing wrong with your username just said it's probably still written in the whiteboard in SLR's office, or meeting room. Just move on

Let's say I have all the content on SLR, including SLROs and other studio content, so I don't need a membership, right? What keeps me subscribed to SLR is new, great content. I bought a yearly membership in September 2022, followed by a monthly one in November 2023 (and a few monthlies before that). Since December 2023, when the monthly production of SLROs was reduced, I transferred my membership to VRSpy, which I believe is owned by SLR or AlexNash. My renewable monthly membership has continued until now.

What's keeping me there is that I'm already subscribed to most of the VR studios, so I don't need SLR's entire library, especially since they don't own POVR studios' new content. Plus, there was a downgrade in SLR models, and I can barely count 5 SLRO scenes I'd like to watch. But I stay with VRSpy because I like 95% of their scenes and want to watch them on the day of release, and here I'm will be enjoying Chloe Surreal tomorrow. So, reducing downloads per month won't keep me subscribed.

How else do you think this can benefit SLR?

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Based on what you said, you seem unhappy with some of the newer content. I can't completely fault you, but this is not anything new to VR porn. I am also subd to most of them and feel they come out with a good one every 6-7 releases (need more big titted models).

How does this benefit SLR? I don't know, but I doubt they are doing it just to say "fuck you haha". It's a business, and someone or a team said "We are losing out on money because of XYZ". So how does it benefit SLR? Money I would say is a fair guess.

But what you said shows it doesn't even matter if there is a cap on downloadable content because most of the newer stuff coming out isn't of interest to you. So how does this proposed download cap negatively effect you?

In the average month, I am way below 30 downloads. However, there have been times when studios or scenes were announced as leaving SLR when I went way higher in an effort to grab what I could while it was available. Even though I don't use it on the regular, I still want the capability.

It sounds like doubleVR has a way to take that into account, so I think I'll be good.

doublevr You're still getting my monthly payment, it's just going to VRSpy instead of SLR. And it's a fact that monthly subscribers are better than lifetime ones in the long term, so I guess I'm on the bright side, huh? I don't have to agree with all the decision you make, unless you convince me. It's all Nash's content I care to watch on SLR anyway. I'll come back when he starts shooting PT for you. Otherwise, I'm happy with VRSpy.

I'm not going too use deovr when it works half as well as heresphere or whirligig, because I'm not fucking stupid.

helaA610
I've never used those, are they good?
I always thought deoVR was like top of the line, but only had Playa to compare it to

[deleted] VR Spy is not owned by SLR

xeddin1 Heresphere is far better than anything else out there, but it's not free (there is a good free demo though).

vrpicasso
Just looked it up, seems like there are 1000 setting options lol

xeddin1 But what you said shows it doesn't even matter if there is a cap on downloadable content because most of the newer stuff coming out isn't of interest to you. So how does this proposed download cap negatively effect you?

Of course, it doesn't affect me right now since I don't have an active membership, and even after reducing it, it still won't. But like I mentioned in my first post here, SLR is taking baby steps compared to their counterparts. Eventually, we're heading towards zero downloads. That's what concerns me. It's why I'm currently hoarding VRBangers' entire library (scenes in 6k and above) as a lifetime subscriber, for goodness' sake.

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I get the fear, I think zero downloads is a really really REALLY stupid thing. I don't think SLR will, and I think VRB will revert that decision.

Writing is on the wall - fewer downloads each year and eventually none

doublevr
Why do you persist on dictating how I consume the content?

Is this your fetish or something?

doublevr This takes us back to the initial questions I asked in this thread [deleted] just to clarify, whenever I visit a random website and it asks about allowing cookies and data, my answer is always 'No' or 'Essentials only'. If a newspaper requires me to allow them just to read it, I usually won't bother, I stopped using facebook because of the data collection policy, I only use it for communication.

Why are you and VRBangers pushing us to use your apps in every possible way? I've noticed Badoink is starting to follow suit as well. How does this benefit SLR, and how does using the app to watch PT make us loyal members, other than just collecting data? Help me understand, so I can help you better.

doublevr Maybe I've misunderstood the whole thing, but here you've just explained to me what we gain from using your application as users, and I've got that part from your previous posts. What I want to know now is what your company gains from it, and what VRBangers gain from us using PLAY'A. What if I stream through the browser without downloads, do I still get the same benefits?

I only joined since begin may with an annual scripts subscription and i think i downloaded only one video + script.

Before SLR i used Eroscript a lot so that meant downloading a lot of files, but with purchasing a Quest 2 i wanted the full experience, VR+scripts.
The big plus of SLR for me is the possibility to quickly find and watch video's you like at the moment. If you don't like it, just skip to the next video in your search. No need to download it first and have to wait before done, although the quality is better when downloaded and watched with Herespere.

I have a porn disk, full of (VR) porn files, downloaded before SLR but i'm thinking of deleting it because i rarely use it now since SLR. Also a favourite video is most of the times less favourite the next time i'm watching it.

So for me no problem but i can understand the other views.

Need to say that I'm also against changing rules in a subscription period like my year sub.

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I think the reason it may seem your question is being ducked is because you are answering it yourself.
Q: "How does using your application benefit you"?
A: Because you are using their application

bazzio

You shouldn't have a problem unless you are just afk downloading every single video. Which is what this is essentially aimed to prevent. With the amount of streaming I do this would honestly give me near infinite downloads lol.

xeddin1 Dude, you know what I mean. Like, does streaming through the app makes for them more incomes than streaming directly through their site?