Downloads plan revamp

xeddin1

fuccaneer
I think what most people are forgetting is that SLR is making a post to discuss issues on how they can make things work smoothly. I think they could have done a bit of a better job by saying "Hey there are some people clearly abusing these features and we don't like so here is what we propose".

You have some smooth brainers who immediately start sweating and swearing because they don't actually understand what's happening. In reality, SLR is a business and businesses like money. Customers give money, SLR wants customers happy so they get more money. I think they will make things work just fine for non abusing customers, while trying to weed out individuals who are trying to get a 100TB of content for $20 on a thumbdrive

doublevr

xeddin1 spot on 💯

The last thing we want is to piss our loyal customers. We want to be super intelligent and targeted. Most of the users shouldn't notice a chance.

If you are a long term customer, regularly streaming in the app, have connected sex toy, tried PT your download limits are going to be much bigger than default ones.

helaA610

I'm not going too use deovr when it works half as well as heresphere or whirligig, because I'm not fucking stupid.

xeddin1

helaA610
I've never used those, are they good?
I always thought deoVR was like top of the line, but only had Playa to compare it to

vrpicasso

xeddin1 Heresphere is far better than anything else out there, but it's not free (there is a good free demo though).

vrpicasso

[deleted] VR Spy is not owned by SLR

xeddin1

vrpicasso
Just looked it up, seems like there are 1000 setting options lol

[deleted]

xeddin1 But what you said shows it doesn't even matter if there is a cap on downloadable content because most of the newer stuff coming out isn't of interest to you. So how does this proposed download cap negatively effect you?

Of course, it doesn't affect me right now since I don't have an active membership, and even after reducing it, it still won't. But like I mentioned in my first post here, SLR is taking baby steps compared to their counterparts. Eventually, we're heading towards zero downloads. That's what concerns me. It's why I'm currently hoarding VRBangers' entire library (scenes in 6k and above) as a lifetime subscriber, for goodness' sake.

xeddin1

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I get the fear, I think zero downloads is a really really REALLY stupid thing. I don't think SLR will, and I think VRB will revert that decision.

Kolaches

Silly-Sausage dude I get being about consumer rights but I think you're overreacting on this one. It's nowhere near as bad as the VRBangers thing

[deleted]

doublevr This takes us back to the initial questions I asked in this thread [deleted] just to clarify, whenever I visit a random website and it asks about allowing cookies and data, my answer is always 'No' or 'Essentials only'. If a newspaper requires me to allow them just to read it, I usually won't bother, I stopped using facebook because of the data collection policy, I only use it for communication.

Why are you and VRBangers pushing us to use your apps in every possible way? I've noticed Badoink is starting to follow suit as well. How does this benefit SLR, and how does using the app to watch PT make us loyal members, other than just collecting data? Help me understand, so I can help you better.

chanser

doublevr as a loyal customer this is good news for me. im not a regular downloader, but i do want to have downloads as an option when i want to. thank you.

mueslee

Writing is on the wall - fewer downloads each year and eventually none

doublevr

mueslee for the first time download limits are going all the way up. Read the post above

mueslee

doublevr
Why do you persist on dictating how I consume the content?

Is this your fetish or something?

doublevr

[deleted] just a very wrong perspective on things.

It's as simple as some users download out of proportion and those churn most. We are trying to eliminate the issue.

Those who don't churn should enjoy downloads without interruption.

Users hitting download limits might have some options getting extra download points.

[deleted]

doublevr Maybe I've misunderstood the whole thing, but here you've just explained to me what we gain from using your application as users, and I've got that part from your previous posts. What I want to know now is what your company gains from it, and what VRBangers gain from us using PLAY'A. What if I stream through the browser without downloads, do I still get the same benefits?

[deleted]

xeddin1 This is exactly why I accused you of being one of them at the beginning of this thread, and I still think you are. What the heck is this bias? What are you talking about? Read again what I said, we’re in a dead end unless he does us a favor and willingly tells us.

I deserve to know what I’m subscribing for. I also want to keep my choice of whether to use the app or not, so here’s a new equation I gave in my latest post make it easier to understand:

Monthly subscription + No app only browser + Streaming = Same rewards mentioned here doublevr ?

vrpicasso Thank you for the detailed answer. I want to use the site to stream, and I believe it allows them to gather all the data they need to give us a better experience and control our feed through some algorithm, just like I can use the browser to stream netflix movies.

maxsavage

doublevr I really appreciate SLR having a conversation like this before implementation. Much classier way to go about it than VRB.

I'll admit it, I'm regularly at around 30 downloads every 6 days. Where I download and where I view are at different locations. Simple as that.

I didn't know datahorder was a pejorative around here. Regardless. just because I download content doesn't mean I'm holding on to everything. I grab everything that looks good to me and filter out what I'm actually going to watch from the headset.

Effectively you are cutting me from 150 to 45 downloads a month. So I'll just need to be more selective.

However, this statement strikes me as strange:

If you are a long term customer, regularly streaming in the app, have connected sex toy, tried PT your download limits are going to be much bigger than default ones.

If I'm regularly streaming in the app, guess I don't really need more downloads right? Not really the olive branch you think it is, and makes me tend to agree with @[deleted] repeated question above. Asking myself why you want me in that app so bad?

My one request is you enforce studios properly labeling the titles when they upload a repeat, either reedit or upscale. So I'm not wasting a dl on a dup.

xeddin1

[deleted]
I think the reason it may seem your question is being ducked is because you are answering it yourself.
Q: "How does using your application benefit you"?
A: Because you are using their application

bazzio

I only joined since begin may with an annual scripts subscription and i think i downloaded only one video + script.

Before SLR i used Eroscript a lot so that meant downloading a lot of files, but with purchasing a Quest 2 i wanted the full experience, VR+scripts.
The big plus of SLR for me is the possibility to quickly find and watch video's you like at the moment. If you don't like it, just skip to the next video in your search. No need to download it first and have to wait before done, although the quality is better when downloaded and watched with Herespere.

I have a porn disk, full of (VR) porn files, downloaded before SLR but i'm thinking of deleting it because i rarely use it now since SLR. Also a favourite video is most of the times less favourite the next time i'm watching it.

So for me no problem but i can understand the other views.

Need to say that I'm also against changing rules in a subscription period like my year sub.

xeddin1

You shouldn't have a problem unless you are just afk downloading every single video. Which is what this is essentially aimed to prevent. With the amount of streaming I do this would honestly give me near infinite downloads lol.

[deleted]

xeddin1 Dude, you know what I mean. Like, does streaming through the app makes for them more incomes than streaming directly through their site?

xeddin1

[deleted]
I am not sure who exactly is in the give or take within the relationship with SLR and deoVR.
But obviously, they have a partnership, and likely they both mutually benefit when the services of the partnerships are used.

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