Downloads plan revamp

xeddin1 But what you said shows it doesn't even matter if there is a cap on downloadable content because most of the newer stuff coming out isn't of interest to you. So how does this proposed download cap negatively effect you?

Of course, it doesn't affect me right now since I don't have an active membership, and even after reducing it, it still won't. But like I mentioned in my first post here, SLR is taking baby steps compared to their counterparts. Eventually, we're heading towards zero downloads. That's what concerns me. It's why I'm currently hoarding VRBangers' entire library (scenes in 6k and above) as a lifetime subscriber, for goodness' sake.

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I get the fear, I think zero downloads is a really really REALLY stupid thing. I don't think SLR will, and I think VRB will revert that decision.

Writing is on the wall - fewer downloads each year and eventually none

doublevr
Why do you persist on dictating how I consume the content?

Is this your fetish or something?

doublevr This takes us back to the initial questions I asked in this thread [deleted] just to clarify, whenever I visit a random website and it asks about allowing cookies and data, my answer is always 'No' or 'Essentials only'. If a newspaper requires me to allow them just to read it, I usually won't bother, I stopped using facebook because of the data collection policy, I only use it for communication.

Why are you and VRBangers pushing us to use your apps in every possible way? I've noticed Badoink is starting to follow suit as well. How does this benefit SLR, and how does using the app to watch PT make us loyal members, other than just collecting data? Help me understand, so I can help you better.

doublevr Maybe I've misunderstood the whole thing, but here you've just explained to me what we gain from using your application as users, and I've got that part from your previous posts. What I want to know now is what your company gains from it, and what VRBangers gain from us using PLAY'A. What if I stream through the browser without downloads, do I still get the same benefits?

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I think the reason it may seem your question is being ducked is because you are answering it yourself.
Q: "How does using your application benefit you"?
A: Because you are using their application

bazzio

You shouldn't have a problem unless you are just afk downloading every single video. Which is what this is essentially aimed to prevent. With the amount of streaming I do this would honestly give me near infinite downloads lol.

xeddin1 Dude, you know what I mean. Like, does streaming through the app makes for them more incomes than streaming directly through their site?

xeddin1 Jeez man! This feels like a dead end. Now it just seems like we're brainstorming in circles, trying to break through the matrix of reasons behind pushing us to use the app. @doublevr could clear this up with a simple answer.

I just want to know the answer to this question, which I'm asking for the third time: The whole dilemma is about people hoarding content and finding ways to stop them so they remain subscribed. What if I don't download at all and stream directly through the site (not the app since we're not getting any clear answers)? Is that okay, and will it give us the same benefits mentioned before?

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I don’t think you will get an answer to a question about their financial statements, and I don’t think you should feel entitled to have an answer.

I also don’t think this post has an underlying scheme to push more people to stream, but rather, to stop abusers from downloading in extreme excess of what is appropriate.

[deleted] SLR wants people to use their app so they can control the experience. They can recommend certain scenes from SLRO or their key partners and accept income from studios wanting to promote their content in the user's "feed" (if they're not doing that now, they will eventually, it's a very typical form of soft advertising). SLR is treating porn like tech / social media and therefore control of the user's feed is vital in gathering data and forming a relationship with the user. Just like FB wouldn't want you to use some 3rd party viewer to check FB content. At some stage, no doubt, ads will be part of the equation, perhaps as part of a lower tier sub (like Netflix / Amazon Prime Video).

That's the reason they want you to use their app. It also makes tech support a lot easier. Unfortunately, DEO is not the best player in terms of features, especially when it comes to fixing production flaws / color correction. Fixing color / camera distance / perspective is not something a Netflix user needs to deal with, nor does an Instagram user have to fix photos or a Spotify user need to repair audio. But VR is such a different and complex beast that the player is incredibly important. Every single scene ever made benefits from some kind of adjustment in the player, even if it's just to account for the user's IPD / height or headset color profile. That's why as much as SLR wants to follow the Netflix model, the more discerning user will not use the built-in player until it is so good that is makes Heresphere redundant.

xeddin1 This is exactly why I accused you of being one of them at the beginning of this thread, and I still think you are. What the heck is this bias? What are you talking about? Read again what I said, we’re in a dead end unless he does us a favor and willingly tells us.

I deserve to know what I’m subscribing for. I also want to keep my choice of whether to use the app or not, so here’s a new equation I gave in my latest post make it easier to understand:

Monthly subscription + No app only browser + Streaming = Same rewards mentioned here doublevr ?

vrpicasso Thank you for the detailed answer. I want to use the site to stream, and I believe it allows them to gather all the data they need to give us a better experience and control our feed through some algorithm, just like I can use the browser to stream netflix movies.

doublevr this seems reasonable. After doing lifetime sub I almost never download since there's only two or three studios I like and they don't seem to be going anywhere. I can't imagine needing more than 30-40 downloads a month. When the private drive goes online you should make an option to just move videos straight from the website into private drive without having to download and then upload again. I think it would help with those of us worried about the impermanent nature of content on this platform.