Downloads plan revamp

doublevr This takes us back to the initial questions I asked in this thread [deleted] just to clarify, whenever I visit a random website and it asks about allowing cookies and data, my answer is always 'No' or 'Essentials only'. If a newspaper requires me to allow them just to read it, I usually won't bother, I stopped using facebook because of the data collection policy, I only use it for communication.

Why are you and VRBangers pushing us to use your apps in every possible way? I've noticed Badoink is starting to follow suit as well. How does this benefit SLR, and how does using the app to watch PT make us loyal members, other than just collecting data? Help me understand, so I can help you better.

doublevr Maybe I've misunderstood the whole thing, but here you've just explained to me what we gain from using your application as users, and I've got that part from your previous posts. What I want to know now is what your company gains from it, and what VRBangers gain from us using PLAY'A. What if I stream through the browser without downloads, do I still get the same benefits?

I only joined since begin may with an annual scripts subscription and i think i downloaded only one video + script.

Before SLR i used Eroscript a lot so that meant downloading a lot of files, but with purchasing a Quest 2 i wanted the full experience, VR+scripts.
The big plus of SLR for me is the possibility to quickly find and watch video's you like at the moment. If you don't like it, just skip to the next video in your search. No need to download it first and have to wait before done, although the quality is better when downloaded and watched with Herespere.

I have a porn disk, full of (VR) porn files, downloaded before SLR but i'm thinking of deleting it because i rarely use it now since SLR. Also a favourite video is most of the times less favourite the next time i'm watching it.

So for me no problem but i can understand the other views.

Need to say that I'm also against changing rules in a subscription period like my year sub.

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I think the reason it may seem your question is being ducked is because you are answering it yourself.
Q: "How does using your application benefit you"?
A: Because you are using their application

bazzio

You shouldn't have a problem unless you are just afk downloading every single video. Which is what this is essentially aimed to prevent. With the amount of streaming I do this would honestly give me near infinite downloads lol.

xeddin1 Dude, you know what I mean. Like, does streaming through the app makes for them more incomes than streaming directly through their site?

xeddin1 Jeez man! This feels like a dead end. Now it just seems like we're brainstorming in circles, trying to break through the matrix of reasons behind pushing us to use the app. @doublevr could clear this up with a simple answer.

I just want to know the answer to this question, which I'm asking for the third time: The whole dilemma is about people hoarding content and finding ways to stop them so they remain subscribed. What if I don't download at all and stream directly through the site (not the app since we're not getting any clear answers)? Is that okay, and will it give us the same benefits mentioned before?

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I don’t think you will get an answer to a question about their financial statements, and I don’t think you should feel entitled to have an answer.

I also don’t think this post has an underlying scheme to push more people to stream, but rather, to stop abusers from downloading in extreme excess of what is appropriate.

xeddin1 This is exactly why I accused you of being one of them at the beginning of this thread, and I still think you are. What the heck is this bias? What are you talking about? Read again what I said, we’re in a dead end unless he does us a favor and willingly tells us.

I deserve to know what I’m subscribing for. I also want to keep my choice of whether to use the app or not, so here’s a new equation I gave in my latest post make it easier to understand:

Monthly subscription + No app only browser + Streaming = Same rewards mentioned here doublevr ?

vrpicasso Thank you for the detailed answer. I want to use the site to stream, and I believe it allows them to gather all the data they need to give us a better experience and control our feed through some algorithm, just like I can use the browser to stream netflix movies.

doublevr this seems reasonable. After doing lifetime sub I almost never download since there's only two or three studios I like and they don't seem to be going anywhere. I can't imagine needing more than 30-40 downloads a month. When the private drive goes online you should make an option to just move videos straight from the website into private drive without having to download and then upload again. I think it would help with those of us worried about the impermanent nature of content on this platform.

[deleted] maybe I’m getting old and senile but I don’t understand the meat of information you are trying obtain. I know I don’t understand the why, which is most important. Unless your “why” is simply that you are curious and want to know stuff. But with how passionate you are I doubt that’s the case

vrpicasso advertising

Oh shit! I see it now. Browsers can have adblockers, direct downloads can skip ads, but streaming via the proprietary app...fuckme, I dont even want to type it

SchnuppiLilac If these users are the problem, why not implement a plan that is more restrictive towards short-term subscribers only?

For example, Reality Lovers has the following model:
1 month: (4K) streaming only
3 months: 15 downloads per week
12 months: Unlimited downloads

Why not this? If this is the problem, then this looks like the answer.
SLR would probably make more money doing this.
1 if the people that sign up for one month and download everything are the problem. Then it stops them.
2 those people might still sign up but now will have to stay for a long time
3 people that have been here for years don't keep feeling like you keep going back on your word about not lowering the download limit

rerun119
Then you would have people complaining that they have to pay for an entire 12 months to download the stuff they want.
I'm not disagreeing btw, I think its a good idea.

But no matter what people are going to find something to complain about, and for every person you satisfy with the change you will gain that many more who have a problem with it.

xeddin1 But no matter what people are going to find something to complain about, and for every person you satisfy with the change you will gain that many more who have a problem with it.

I understand what you are trying to say but with what @SchnuppiLilac said it doesn't affect anybody that is here now.
It would only affect someone new signing up. That person would be under different legal rules because of the time they signed up.

I don't download 30 scenes a month but I really don't like them changing the rules after WE (me and slr) agreed on what I would get with a LIFETIME membership. I have watched it change more than once since I bought it. I want my script downloads to go back up to what I paid for.

How would SLR like it if I went to the bank 2 years later and said other people are requesting PT and SLR is making more of them than regular so I have decided to take back 30% of the money. I know we agreed on a price back then but some hoarding abusers of PT is ruining it for the rest of us.

rerun119
You bring up a good point there.
I think if SLR makes this change they should consider those with a lifetime agreement and some sort of compensation for what was promised.