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Hairsational I never said he's innocent, that's your assumption!

Don't just speak for the sake of speaking! Anyone who wants to take this road, please, don't make assumptions or twist my words. I explicitly stated my neutrality because I lack sufficient information about this matter, meaning I'm not pointing fingers at either party, I'm definitely not just following what majority are saying in order to please y'all.

    [deleted] You didn't say it explicitly but that was the implication, or at least how I interpreted your comments. Btw I didn't say "is innocent", I said "likely innocent" which isn't mischaracterizing what you said.

      Hairsational For me it was his taking a bunch of paragraphs to say “I haven’t bothered to look into it so it’s impossible to know.”

      So many words to say absolutely nothing.

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        Mutiny Hairsational Both of you are just being narrow-minded, blinded by this whole simp thing (or at least, that's how I see it). From what I mentioned was that I refuse to jump to conclusions based on the chaos you've created. I did look into it, read almost the whole article with their statement, but wasn't convincing for me.

        LMAO I can't believe I'm quoting myself:

        [deleted] Till this point and after reading a few of the statements shared above, I'm still firmly planted on the neutral ground. No grudges, no prejudgments against Jimmy, especially since Jimmy's not exactly behind bars... and last I checked, forums and Twitter aren't exactly courtrooms. All we've got to go on are a handful of statements from a few models, not exactly convincing evidence in my book. Feels more like a simp club squabble than a righteous defense of the abused. (shrug)

        It's giving me serious Depp vs. Heard vibes. Remember that circus? Johnny had the popularity and the fans from the get-go, so it was pretty much game over for Amber, no matter what came out later. Here, though, it's Alex Coal with the devoted following, and her fans seem to have already drawn their battle lines. Jimmy and his crew could probably call Jesus to forgive his sins, but it wouldn't sway anyone. (I'm neutral not defending him)

        I might have said a lot of words, but perhaps I didn't say anything you agree with, which seems to equate to nothing in your eyes.

          [deleted] You read almost one whole article? You really did your homework there, champ.

          You're glancing at actual sexual assault allegations from numerous women and proudly flaunting your apathy as some kind of virtue. That's fucking gross.

          (And your repeated use of the word "simp" in this context makes you a deeply unserious person.)

          You know who didn't think it was some mysterious unknowable conundrum? The fucking WankzVR lawyers, who thoroughly investigated and then fired his ass.

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            Mutiny Well I can't do better than this 'source'. If you don't like the word 'simp,' fine, let's use 'bias.' You're all more likely biased.

            Person A: He abused me.
            Person B: No, I did not.

            Your biased 'simp self'... Oh, I believe Person A.

            I had some respect for you, but jumping straight to attacking the person? That's just not right. Not a serious person? Really I'm just a hobbyist, not a judge. You said 'actual sexual assault allegations'? Then take it to the judge, for God's sake. I don't have legal expertise to deal with that. If the judge pronounces him guilty, then I'll still remain neutral. Only then can you place the blame on me.

              [deleted] Oh, I believe Person A

              Yep. I also believe persons C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, etc who all said basically the same thing as person A.

              Edit: I want to take a breath and clarify something, though. I do not at all fault you for not knowing stuff. We all have major blindspots, and we often don't know what we don't know. The world is messy and complicated and really fucking frustrating sometimes. I feel ya.

              Where I take issue is boldly proclaiming your ignorance as though it's something valuable to be shared. You're allowed to just sit quietly when you don't know something. Or, better yet, be actively curious.

              doublevr Go sue Jimmy if he did it wrong. Don't bring this shit on me

              Dude. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

              Two immutable laws of dealing with customers:

              1. People may forget what you di for them, but they will never forget how you made them feel - especially if it was negative.

              2. If you please a customer, they may recommend you to a friend. If you anger or otherwise mistreat a customer, they will make it their mission in life to tell EVERYBODY about you.

              You seem to be determined to ignore all of this as though we are unreasonable for being revolted by the decision, rather than that you are being unreasonable by acting as if it's no big deal. Ther are consequences to that. No one else in the industry has hired him because they don't want to be associated with someone who is morally reprehensible - in large part becausew they know customers will leave so that THEY won't have to be supporting someone reprehensible. All of this is just the price of living in a civilized society - consequences for your actions. And stop with the "bring a court case" stuff. You know how the justice system treats sex workers. These performers are your lifeblood. Don't treat them so disrespectfully. You're supposed to be better than that.

              [deleted] I lack sufficient information about this matter

              Sorry, but this is a bullshit statement. There is, publicly available, statements from around a dozen models from pro to novice, older and younger, star and not, that all say the same thing about this scumbag. Exactly what evidence will satisfy you? Do you need video of the incidents that took place after the shoot? Do you need someone other than the multiple performers to vouch for the truth of the incident? Does it mean anything to you that Wankz thought it serious enough to fire their most prolific and senior director over it? why hasn't ANYONE come out to support Jimmy's side, while a dozen or more models reported very similar incidents with the same guy?

              I've worked as a rape counselor and a domestic violence counselor for a long time. It is flippant attitudes like yours - and someone else on this forum - that make it so difficult for survivors to heal.

              And Depp is a scumbag, too. He was guilty, he just had the better lawyer and simps in in his corner. Literally everyone I know in the psych field with any expertise in sexual/domestic violence saw right through that bullshit case.

              [deleted] Ummm, i've never personally had a thing for Alex Coal and i'm pretty sure i've never used one of her scenes. So you're wrong for assuming everyone here is some kind of personal white knight fanboy here to defend her.

              I read her story objectively and then some of the other stars and Jimmy's "Apology" and it just really creeped me out. This guy sounds like a real asshole that probably should have faced real legal action in the past and it's just sad that this great website has decided they need to be the ones to give him a second chance.

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              Simp thing lol
              Even though many actresses have spoken out against Jimmy.
              Even though Jimmy himself issued an apology video on his wrongdoing.
              Even though Jimmy compares pornstars to whores.

              But no no no, we're just simps! You're not convinced, therefore we must be simpin'. 🤦

                Just getting caught up with this, i've never read about any 'drama' in VR or porn filming until now - it's pretty damn obviously a bad idea to work with Jimmy Lifestyles in any way.

                Yes him having his own channel or whatever is working with him, you are giving him a platform and income stream, literally paying him to abuse women like he has done for years. His filming set, his rules, right?

                I guarantee he will mention he puts his content on SLR when trying to get performers - You guys keep saying you are the biggest VR website, so of course he will mention it and all of a sudden more and more performers will link SLR and Jimmy Savile, uh, Lifestyles together.

                The whole argument of "if he did wrong he'd be in prison or arrested" is bollocks. Many abusers get away with it for years even if people try to go to the police or the legal route.

                I just don't see the appeal of working with the guy, he brings a TON of negative press that will make paying customers leave SLR and go elsewhere (and they'll be sure to tell everyone to avoid SLR) - I already see a lot of familiar forum names in here dead-set against SLR working with the guy.

                It will also deter performers from working with SLR now and in future, i'm sure people working in the industry will hear so not just performers but possible directors, writers, everyone. Who wants to work for or with a company that knowingly and defiantly has a working relationship with such a person?

                Companies often get a lot of stick for having social media teams interact with customers, but the one good thing i'd like to point out is that they take time to think about the consequences of certain actions and almost never reply on a whim with little thought or foresight 🙄

                obilisk2450 and the ragged crowd is mad. It's never enough. Go het him, get him hard
                We don't want him justice. We want him hard

                Give him a lifetime ban. We are such a good people. We never wrong

                  These have gotta be the strangest official responses to subscriber outrage i've ever seen. At this point i'm assuming SLR has already guaranteed him a contract and they can't get out of it, that's the only thing i can think of to cause such a staunch defense of an obviously terrible person.

                    HughMungus As a huge SLR fan excited about their tech, I'm extremely disappointed they're willing to more less throw it away for one director that no one wants and not only that, staunchly defend him. It's the most cringey shit I've ever seen unfold in realtime and the bad press will be even more awkward.

                    doublevr The thing of course is that this is not 1 case, not 2, not even three. But I counted at least 12 actresses with those stories, Emma Hix even is talking about 20+ actresses, not sure if that's true though, haven't verified them. But if there are that many actresses all complaining about Jimmy, it just becomes really hard to credibly defend him. At that point you can't simply say anymore "oh that's just on X, that doesn't count, only a judge's verdict counts". It's of course a huge step for any porn actress to start a lawsuit. Would any studio after that want to work with such 'trouble maker' ever again? I can totally see why no one is eager to take those steps.