Timbama Exactly this and to add to that: I know people will complain when their favorite position is missing but having all of them in every scene just makes the scenes formulaic. I think it also greatly limits the possibility for creativity. Having some good positions that work in synergy with the setup/ script is one of the reasons JAV scenes tend to feel more immersive. After all when you have sex with your girlfriend you won't do every position every time either right? Take another example: Let's say you have a scene that focusses on sex in public, you can see how limiting having to cram in all the favorites here can be.
SLR Originals reset plan - Nov '23
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Timbama it honestly seems like you saw the passthrough comments in my post and ignored the rest of it. Let’s go through the reset though.
I’m not even sure what it means. It’s Alex Nash related though and, as I mentioned, I’m not a fan of his stuff, nothing to do with passthrough.
Like I said, it’s not great to hear that we’re getting less content and I’m not a fan of the two producers they are now going forward with. Again not passthrough related although one of their producers only shoots passthrough so, for the rest of us, we’re down to one guy who I don’t enjoy. He didn’t say “concentrating on longer high quality scenes rather than pumping out lots of mediocre ones” that’s all your interpretation. There’s going to be less content as he’s fired all of their other content providers, that is the sole reason. If anything the two content providers they have left will be under more pressure to churn out scenes as there’s no one else to share the load.
By far the biggest post and all about passthrough which I have no interest in. Includes moving their one non-passthrough producer into passthrough production, female POV etc. All mentioned in my post.
I don’t even know what that means. I’m sure we all want “improved” casting but we all probably have a completely different idea of what that means. I don’t have a huge issue with their casting as it is.
This feels like something to improve efficiency for them (especially for passthrough), nothing to get excited about for the consumer.
CGI backgrounds for passthrough, like I said no interest in this. It won’t work with their new “Alpha” passthrough content anyway. That’s why all the CG scenes so far are on older passthrough content.
Scenes will have basic scripts for story and some dialogue. That already happens on some scenes anyway. Nothing to get excited about for us.
Pretty vague stuff.
This is possibly something to excite people if it happens. The people who made that scene are long gone though.
I’m not sure where he said there’d be more high quality and longer scenes or better scenarios. There’s zero mention of scene length or better quality. They’re continuing to use the same two producers that they’ve been using so why would anything change?
As for better actress selection, like I said, that’s entirely subjective. Your idea of better is likely very different to mine which is probably very different to his.
The last time he did one of these types of posts about resetting, I was excited about it, didn’t complain at all. He talked about lots of producers, more content, more variety, default BGG anal scenes. None of it actually happened.
If it feels like I’m complaining a lot, it’s because I don’t enjoy their current content, getting on for half of which is now passthrough and likely more going forward. Hence I will probably not be re-subscribing when my current one runs out. Nothing in this reset addresses any of my issues or gets me excited.
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dineshweb Yup, If there is already laying cowgirl or reverse cowgirl then no need for the same in the sitting position.
I don't think you can do that without making scenes less popular. The sitting positions do nothing for me so I wouldn't care if they were omitted, but I would care if laying positions were left out. I'd imagine that someone who likes the sitting positions and not the laying ones would feel a similar way if sitting positions were left out.
Hairsational I feel the same way about seated vs. lying down and I'd rather have a proper lying down take 60% of the time instead of scraps 100% of the time. Especially with Nash scenes, everything after the seated part feels like going through a checklist.
Hairsational 100% I skip all the laying down bits.
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- I don't see an issue that both laying down and sitting positions in the same video in AR porn. Imho the issue is that either positions often feel rushed and they are over before they started. So I end up having to loop it. Just make them longer.
- I also don't like there's less focus on eg. other positions. Instead I feel there should be more work put into making those positions better for AR porn. I would like to eg. bang the girl on or over my desk or dinning table. It's fun.
- In terms of VR vs AR... well I dislike the idea of focus on CGI background as I think the two departments should be completely separate. Issue here is the same as I see so much in porn... 'Jack of all trades but master of none' that ends up pleasing neither party. Just separate them and have a team or two that perfects VR and a team or two that perfects AR.
- I like the idea of Modern relationship turning into a series.
Personally, I have no interest in pass through. But, when I received my Quest 3, I decided to give it another try. And after giving it fair shake. I’ve come to the conclusion that I still have no interest in PT scenes.
My main issue with PT is in order to make the most of it, you must put your body in the same position as the stuntcock so everything matches up. I usually watch my VR porn in one position. Usually seated. Having to constantly change positions during the scene doesn’t appeal to me at all.
I’ve read some comments by pass through fans that they usually only watch one or two positions. And skip the rest of the scene. Or turn off PT when the position doesn’t match to their viewing position. IDK, sounds like a waste to me. Not sure how I’d feel if I was a producer or performer. Knowing portions of my efforts are never watched.
And speaking of performers, I have to believe shooting PT scenes is some of the least sexy scenes you can shoot. VR is already a hard sell for some performers. I gotta believe this isn’t going to help. Instead of growing VR porn, I feel this will have the opposite effect.
Now, I’m not trying rain on anyone’s parade. If you love PT, knock yourself out. Enjoy it! But this announcement doesn’t really excite me about the future of SLR. In fact, quite the opposite. If this is the direction SLR wants to go. I will have to seriously think about whether I want to renew my membership for another year.
This is not a threat. Or me pouting because I’m not getting my way. It’s about not getting enough content that interests me to justify continuing my membership.
Just my $.02
I'm firmly in "believe it when I see it" territory when it comes to anything involving new concepts/longer scenes/more story focus.
Every six months there's a post about big sweeping changes but inertia is king in the porn industry. It's far too easy to fall back on old habits. Plenty of things have been promised before and then quickly forgotten.
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bacula8630 And speaking of performers, I have to believe shooting PT scenes is some of the least sexy scenes you can shoot. VR is already a hard sell for some performers. I gotta believe this isn’t going to help. Instead of growing VR porn, I feel this will have the opposite effect.
This is actually a really interesting point imo. Female performers in the past have quit VR porn because it itself is hard to shoot and a bad experience for the talent when you have to do everything yourself and always having to focus on the camera.
Just imagine being in a greenscreen room, having to fuck a guy in a green costume with only his dick hanging out, while being lit up by lights and having to pretend its the best sex of your life.
Probabaly not really attractive for a lot of performers I'd guess.
I can totally accept trying to increase the production value and people liking these videos but I personally love it when the location / set is good and matches the vibe of the scene and not just a bed in a grey room.
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bacula8630 Dusty I have to believe shooting PT scenes is some of the least sexy scenes you can shoot.
They can always try it; if they can't pull it off, well, it's their choice to not shoot anymore, not yours or even SLR's. At least it's not the worst setting ever for them. 'Glory hole,' for instance, existed a long time before and is way worse than AR/VR from an actress's perspective.
Hair. This is what in part makes the hotties hot. Especially long hair that flows down their backs. Why do the performers move it to the front when they are in reverse cowgirl and then move it to the back when they are in cowgirl. Try to mix it up please.
Heels. These things accentuate a woman's legs. Please ask the performers to leave them on sometimes, instead of kicking them off pretty much straight away 5 mins into the scene. I know some people have a foot fetish and Im good with that but again like point 1. It would be good to mix it up a bit
Passthrough. The non PT brigade need to leave PT the fuck alone with their stupid opinions. it's fine as it is with multiple positions. Nobody except you gives a toss about where your dick is when the positions change. Get over it. Most people who watch pass through have the common sense to sometimes switch off pass through for scenes that aren't conducive to pass through. I like doggy style, I don't care whether it is in PT or non PT. I just like a woman's ass.
Passthrough part 2 - all major studios are pretty much now in copycat mode. POVR and RealJam are exploring this right now.
I am looking forward to Female POV especially if it is in the format of BGG. One thing I miss is the fact I don't get to see the hotties ass bouncing on the cock in cowgirl. Would be great from the POV of another hottie and then they can swap positions. Hotttttt!!!!!!
What BigTittyLicker said. If we are getting serious about comments and forum feedback, one of the biggest ask is ebony women and thick women.
Stan Short and Alex Mack were cool.
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theHobbit Heels. These things accentuate a woman's legs. Please ask the performers to leave them on sometimes, instead of kicking them off pretty much straight away 5 mins into the scene. I know some people have a foot fetish and Im good with that but again like point 1. It would be good to mix it up a bit
Agreed. I certainly don't expect every scene for the woman to keep the heels on but as it is now then for some reason or another in porn heels are off within minutes. It would be great if we could get more scenes where the heels stays on for longer.
theHobbit What BigTittyLicker said. If we are getting serious about comments and forum feedback, one of the biggest ask is ebony women and thick women.
Agreed but I would add mature women (older milfs) to that mix. Especially in PTs - for example Reagan Foxx, Larkin Love, Lexi Luna, Penny Barber, Cory Chase, Dreanna Dream and I could go on as the list is long.
OliverDK Agreed but I would add mature women (older milfs) to that mix. Especially in PTs - for example Reagan Foxx, Larkin Love, Lexi Luna, Penny Barber, Cory Chase, Dreanna Dream and I could go on as the list is long.
Absolutely. It's great seeing how the curves of these women have filled out over the years. Mandy Muse was a babe when she was younger but sex on legs for me now a days.
Dusty Just imagine being in a greenscreen room, having to fuck a guy in a green costume with only his dick hanging out, while being lit up by lights and having to pretend its the best sex of your life.
You made me actually LOL when I read this and I started to try to imagine that. Being the guy doesn't sound much better. I think you just ruined VR porn for me. 
theHobbit Heels. These things accentuate a woman's legs. Please ask the performers to leave them on sometimes, instead of kicking them off pretty much straight away 5 mins into the scene. I know some people have a foot fetish and Im good with that but again like point 1. It would be good to mix it up a bit
This.
petergriff I'm firmly in "believe it when I see it" territory when it comes to anything involving new concepts/longer scenes/more story focus.
Every six months there's a post about big sweeping changes but inertia is king in the porn industry. It's far too easy to fall back on old habits. Plenty of things have been promised before and then quickly forgotten.
This hits home. Was a sub for WankzVR in 2018 when a new producer (called Tofu?) vowed to shake things up and introduce more creativity by posting something similar to this thread. He did OK for a few months... now look at the current state of Wankz/MilfVR scenes, almost all of them 40-50 mins, vanilla, boring scenes.