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Those look cool https://forum.sexlikereal.com/d/5044-full-body-passthrough

Thinking if we should have all the new PT videos in full body green suit.

Keep in mind we are working to turn every existing video passthrough with the help of AI the same way like you blur background on Zoom and Google Meet calls. Will be releasing a demo soon.

Technically in the future we should be able to remove male performer as well with the help of AI.

Also looking to introduce more custom backgrounds for these videos.

Everything should work in AR mode on smartphones soon

    doublevr +1 for full body green suit. Also looking forward to custom/CG backgrounds.
    The grey suit does look weird in non-PT mode, but I don't mind it that much (might be possible to workaround with motion capture CG).

    Well, you guys say that pass through scenes do well on this site. Reading this and other forums, I get the opposite impression. But people that comment on forums are only a fraction of the user base. So if you say pass through is doing well, I’ll take you at your word.

    As someone who doesn’t use pass through, I don’t want ruin the fun for those who enjoy it. But I do have a couple concerns.

    First one is simple and selfish. There’s a lot of fresh talent in the Florida area. Unfortunately the main producer you have out there, mostly shoots pass through scenes. So many of the new talent I hope to see in there first, and perhaps only, VR scene is a pass through one.

    I wouldn’t mind as much if the performer had regular VR scenes first. Then perhaps a pass through scene later. So everyone could get something they’ll enjoy.

    The other concern I have is more of where the industry is going. I think pass through may possibly end up hurting the growth of VR. The industry has had a paradigm shift in recent years. With more and more performers going the OF route.

    Among mainstream performers, I already hear VR is not the favorite type of scene for many of them. Can’t really say I blame them. The hours are typically longer than a typical 2D scene. There’s a strange camera module they have to stare at. The ladies have to do most of the work sex wise. And positions are limited.

    My fear is shooting a scene in a green room , with a guy in a green leotard with a hole for his dick to stick out, is gonna make the pool of potential performers even smaller. Relegating VR/AR to even a smaller niche of the entire industry.

    Maybe I’m way off base. And there’s no issues booking talent. And AR will continue to grow. I hope so. And doesn’t end up a fad like 3D movies or something.

    Anyways, sorry if this post was a little off topic. Green screen only going forward? Yeah, I guess?

    I just wish you had another east coast producer. So you could readily shoot both types of scenes with the east coast based performers.

    Anyways. Thanks for reading

      For sure, without that green suit option, I don't wanna see my belly even in VR ...lol

      doublevr every new headset release gets even more passthrough

      Why do you still not understand that some people DON'T WANT to watch AR porn? It doesn't matter how good the tech is or will be, some people simply DON'T WANT TO WATCH AR PORN.

      I get that you will continue shooting AR porn no matter how much resistance you get from a portion of your own customer base. Nobody can stop you from doing that, it's your business. But this attitude that people not interested in AR porn wouldn't even exist and that everyone would deeply love and root for AR porn if only the tech was good enough is just ignorant, annoying and downright insulting. Please stop that, it's not true.

      doublevr Also looking to introduce more custom backgrounds for these videos.

      You really don't need to invest money into that if you use the grey suits for all AR scenes in the future.

      There are only two possible scnearios:

      1. You use a grey suit in AR scenes. That way the video isn't watchable without using passthrough mode. So custom backgrounds for a VR-workaround solution are pointless.

      2. You don't use grey suits in AR scenes.. Then custom backgrounds are an option to make AR videos somewhat watchabe in a VR-workaround mode without passthrough.

      Your statement that you want to do both, using grey suits AND custom background makes absolutely zero sense.

      To answer the question

      Should we make all the new Passthrough movies in male green suit?

      That's a clear NO from my side.

        doublevr We aren't getting any short on nonPT videos

        Definitely not true for the casting side though.

        You might not get short on VR scenes in general but apparently you do get short on VR scenes with certain girls people actually wanted to see in VR (and even suggested them for it)...

        And there were four AR scenes in the past two weeks. So much for AR scenes "only being bonus content on top of VR content". It's taking over more and more space of the regular release schedule lately. There were more AR scenes in the last two weeks than Nash scenes...

        The non-gray suit PT scenes were more finicky when I was testing them out on the quest 2 than the suit ones. So yep, I would say go gray suit for all new PT scenes.
        The latest few PT scenes have been very hot - casting selection here has been incredible.
        I'm ordering the Q3 as soon as it becomes available.

        I know a lot of folks are not too happy with the PT direction. But I really believe in the tech, and that there is a lot of potential here. We'll have a lot more signal once the Q3 gets in the hands of everyone.
        Until then, it drives me crazy thinking of the recent hot scenes and how they'll look in full color PT!

        I say yes, the green suit scenes is what finally convinced me to try out pass through. Even with quest 2 black and white cameras, the feeling of immersion you get is something new. For me, without passthrough these scenes are unwatchable no matter what. i don't think looking for a middle ground is the best idea, you will end up with scenes that are mediocre with or without passthrough. Lean all the way into it, make it as immersive as possible, and at the same time keep producing great non passthrough scenes, to keep everyone happy. I think there is a place for both

        doublevr I’m pretty sure that’s what you’ve already decided to do so it’s kind of pointless to object. The bodysuit scenes are completely unwatchable for anyone who does not want to use passthrough. The grey background scenes were actually watchable and a decent compromise especially if we can eventually put in decent alternative backgrounds. The full body suit just makes that unworkable.

        doublevr Although I am open to PT, I propose not to close the door on dual use of these videos with artificial backgrounds. The first example with added background looked very promising and I am sure it will be possible to make it work even better over time. I would rather have a choice between both ways of watching.

          Looks like there are a few options here:

          1. Full Body Green Suit

          Pros:

          • Very immersive in AR/PT

          Cons:

          • Doesn't work well in Non-PT/Non-AR viewing (huge disatisfaction for non-PT audience, which is much larger at the moment)
          • Custom backgrounds won't look good with a full body suit.

          2. No Suit

          Pros:

          • Makes it bearable for Non-PT/Non-AR audience to watch
          • Works with custom backgrounds

          Cons:

          • Less immersive for PT users and Non-PT users alike., both audiences will be dissatisfied.
          • Delayed release of custom background scene for Non-PT audience.
          • Alignment issues for PT users

          3. AI generated PT

          Pros:

          • Great for PT and Non-PT users. Assuming, the scene is shot as an SLR original. Both audiences will be satisfied.
          • Lower production cost (don't have to spend time and money on creating alpha channel and custom backgrounds)
          • PT and Non-PT scene is released at the same time (just need to release one SLR Original).
          • Provides a more customizable experience (can turn on PT for some scenes and turn it off for others).
          • Highly reuseable technology (can use the same technique for videos from other studios too).
          • SLR Developers gain AI skills.

          Cons:

          • AI generated PT quality is decent but not as good as alpha channel (AI generated PT can get better over time though).
          • May use slightly more headset battery than usual (nothing to worry about though).

          Final Recommendations

          • SLR should redirect its PT efforts into making AI generated PT a reality. This option provides great satisfaction to both PT and non-PT users. AI generated PT also lowers cost for SLR.
          • SLR should pause alpha channel PT production for now and replace it with SLR Originals (to see if production costs can be lowered with AI generated PT). This will also mitigate the dissatisfaction from the Non-PT audience (which is much larger than PT audience right now).

            doublevr What I wanted to say is that dual use would exclude the use of body suits. I guess you might still watch the body suit videos in non-PT if you want to see the girl but not the greatest experience.

            MickyCheese For PassThrough - Option 1 is the best.

            Option 3 is not so good for people like me who like pass through, so when you say Great for PT users, this simply isn't correct. You are just just trying to make a convincing argument for the proponents of Non-PT. This is why the drama queens have liked your post.