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theHobbit I agree, AI generated PT is not as good as alpha channel (Alpha channel is so much better in passthrough).

The reason I mentioned AI gen PT is great for PT users is because it's not that bad and SLR is already planning to invest in the technology.

I recommended it because it looks very promising. SLR will eventually get better at it and it solves the contention between PT and non-PT users.

Here is the latest update from AlexSLRLabs on AI gen PT:

    MickyCheese it solves the contention between PT and non-PT users.

    There isn't a massive contention - there are a few who want SLR to focus on VR and they routinely throw their dummies out of the pram but I suspect most users don't give a monkeys which format is being used as can be seen from the number of likes the videos get regardless of whether it is pass through or not.

    I reckon the 5 users lol who are really into VR probably like looking out the location windows and bedroom decor or something along those lines. They probably get boners when they go to home department stores lol. Whereas most users are busy jerking off to the hot women in front of them.

      theHobbit dude I get you have your opinion but don't try to act like people who disagree with you are just dumb drama queens and aren't a significant number. There are valid reasonings on both sides, that's why it's such a heated topic

      theHobbit If there are only "a few who want SLR to focus on VR" then why are you getting so intensely butthurt about what they have to say? Every one of your posts is dripping with contempt for anyone that says something bad about PT.

      they routinely throw their dummies out of the pram

      You're projecting.

        theHobbit Even if I wanted a reminder that I’m actually in my own bedroom jerking off, passthrough does not work. You cannot do any kind of camera movement as the background (your room) is fixed and the girl is not so the second you tilt the camera or she changes position, everything looks wrong.

        In order to watch the scene properly then, I have to physically re-enact what is happening on screen. I have no interest in doing that and neither do most people or all the VR players wouldn’t have the option to move the camera.

        The other option is to restrict the whole scene to the same laying down position so you just have cowgirl positions for the entire scene which is a huge step backwards.

        doublevr interesting. I've been loving the full passthough releases, so whatever you do, make sure they still look great.

        I don't care if you keep the male there and remove it with AI, or if you add realistic environments for passthough haters, just don't mess up with the clean and polished look your new PT releases have ❤️

        theHobbit While I agree that most people will focus on the hot, naked woman in front of them, I still believe their is contention.

        From my understanding, the contention starts when a new girl is cast in only one format:

        • Users preferring non-PT want the scene to be an SLR Original to maximize 'immersion' in VR.
        • Users preferring PT want the scene to be alpha channel PT to maximize 'immersion' in AR.
        • Neutral users are happy as long as one of the formats has maximized 'immersion'.

        While you and I might agree that most users are neutral and the future is with AR, it still doesn't change the fact that there will be more people preferring SLR Originals simply because not many people have color PT headsets at the moment. Also, most SLR customers don't mind SLR Originals because it's been around longer than PT.

        Since AI generated PT has the potential to be as good as alpha channel, I believe it's the right choice going forward (it has potential to maximize 'immersion' in VR and AR).

        Personally, this is another reason why I was more excited about the custom backgrounds, because with the guy visible and a custom background, my body would never interfere. Even if you remove the guys body and only leave his dick, I can imagine it will take some adjustment in real life to actually align that with your body in order for it to not seem weird or like a floating dick above you. This also doesnt even take into consideration the constant changes in positions and angles in each scene. I would not be looking forward to constantly pausing the scene at each change and physically adjust just so the floating dick makes sense.

        I am personally not in favor of removing the guys body but I can see why some people would not like this.

        theHobbit they routinely throw their dummies out of the pram

        I had to Google that one lol

        ok, I typed everything below and then thought of a question to preface all of my comments-- With the CG back grounds, are these made by shooting a PT scene in a green or gray room, and then superimposed on the CG back ground? In other words, can a PT scene be offered in both green/gray back ground AND with a CG background, or is it one or the other only? If so, then here is my preference--

        I would like to give an opinion from a non-PT user--
        My vote is to offer the PT scenes with a second version with CG back grounds. I have only seen one so far with Serena Hill. Are there more? My thoughts on that are, I agree with MickeyCheese that it does have potential to be a very good middle ground to give PT users scenes, and something usable for non-PT users. Even as a non PT user myself, I do believe that you should still make them for that subscriber base, fair is fair. All of us can surely name something that we want to see that may be unique to our tastes alone, and we all appreciate it when we get a scene made that satisfies our particular preference. But I do hope that you will also put in a best effort to allow these scenes to be usable for the rest, just like you are giving a best effort with AI to make all past regular VR scenes available for PT. Again to follow MickeyChese, when we get a new model that is highly anticipated debuting in PT, it would be very nice to at least have a CG version for the rest of us. My suggestion on the CG backgrounds though, please don't make them too busy and distracting. The futurist bedroom was neat and all, but it was a bit much with all sorts of colors and shapes on the walls, etc. to be using regularly. Would you be willing to make us another CG background to try out that is a little more muted and not as flashy as the futuristic bedroom? (not the blurred back ground that @doublevr mentioned, but just a slightly darker room with less flashy stuff).

        In the absence of CG backgrounds, my vote is to use the all gray rooms. I still watch those scenes and I can deal with that, and in some instances I feel like the picture quality of the model is maybe even higher than in an everyday VR scene. I can not do the green background and suit though no matter how hard I try, it is a retina scorcher in non-PT playback and I'll have a headache well before the scene is finished.

        I'm kind of looking forward to giving PT a proper go with the Quest 3, but currently the low res black and white Quest 2 cameras are not for me.

        edit: ok, I clearly missed some of the points made in previous posts. In regards to floating dicks and having to reposition along with the models, yes, that would be something that would steer me away from watching the scenes.

        Full body suit seems to work well with passthrough, although lighting all areas and masking is still not perfect. Still, it's now got to the level of being "good enough" to be compelling. Earlier attempts were interesting from a tech point of view but all the extra elements of the scene were a major distraction and reinforced the unreality. I say do it well or don't do it. It's already hard enough to achieve immersion in this format, so compromising on what is already a compromise is no good for anyone. So, well-lit chick + floating cock and balls = success, especially in positions which mimic the viewer's, which for me is seated.

        Removing any further comments that are off-topic.

        The topic being: "full body suit for Passthrough, yea or nay".

        People who are against PT have never tried color pass-through with the Handy while on edibles; it's mind-blowing. I honestly don't understand the crowd that goes to PT videos just to hate. Like, dude, let the people who enjoy PT enjoy them. There are so many videos that are not PT for you to enjoy.

        Yeah removing the male body would be awesome. Doesn't have to be all videos, but def should be a a few released every month for the PT fiends. I think getting into PT and making it as good as possible will set SLR way above all the other studios. Especially when Q3 and Apple Vision comes out, everyone who has been hating on PT will shut their mouths and get converted. Now is the time to double down on it imo.

          In anticipation of the upcoming release of the Quest 3 I decided to test passthrough on my Quest 2 to finally check what the fuzz was about. And I can defiantly say there's potential here for something AWESOME. It gave me some of the same thrill I had when I first watch VR and I can only imagine this with actual color passthrough would be mind-blowing.

          About the bodysuit then for me it's a must. Those that didn't have it were distracting to me and then I rather just watch VR. So as @vrpicasso said - either go all in or don't do it. I get that AR is not some people's cup of tea and that's fair but trying to please all always ends up with a less satisfying result for both camps. Pick one.

          bacula8630 Well, you guys say that pass through scenes do well on this site. Reading this and other forums, I get the opposite impression. But people that comment on forums are only a fraction of the user base. So if you say pass through is doing well, I’ll take you at your word.

          Yeah but if you look at the likes the pt video get and compare to how many actual comments the video get positive or negative it's a small fraction of how many likes its gets

          Example say a pt production video gets
          2.k likes but it only has 64 actual comments
          And then I bet sum viewers don't even hit the likes on any videos, so what I'm saying is there's many viewers but not all leave comments or likes, they're just watchers. If any of this makes senses, it's what I assume.

          Cuz I see the negative comments on the videos and on other sites but them comments are very little compared to how many likes the pt video actually get.

          I mean 2.k likes and only 60 comments and out of them 60 comments maybe like a quarter of them are anti pt users no matter how much better it will get they'll still hate it, and want it wiped off the site cus
          "they didn't subscribe up for pt"

          But you know what I don't like the plushies videos, or the twerking videos that have no nudity but I'm not asking for it to get wiped off the site or im leaving negative comments on the video or down voting comment suggestions,

          videos i have no interest in watching i just dont watch them at all. 🤷‍♂️

          But viewers should be able to give there opinions but these anti pt users go a lil to far, like ffs if you don't like it don't watch it, we're not asking to get rid of yalls plushie videos. Lol 😆 🤣 😂 😹

          Lol I'm clowning tho, my comments come from a positive side, no hate, they don't like pt its fine its OK, what brings us here together are hotties and fapping. No need for hate its all love 😉

          Happy Fapping VRFam!
          And shout out the pt lovers!
          You anti pt viewers we love you too ✌️😉😘

            doublevr Thinking if we should have all the new PT videos in full body green suit.

            Sum might not like my answer but im fine with both suit on or suit off 👍

            I can request so much but it would take up so much commenting space and it would be confusing.

            I bet if you got a group of heavy pt users we'd be able to point you in the right direction.

            Cuz there's a lot of missed out opportunities that could have been done in alpha productions.

            I enjoy the alpha production videos but I'm always left with thoughts in my head like "why didn't they do this" or "what if they did this" or "why do they do that" I'm just left with a lot of what of should of could of situation in my head, lol 😆

            But I'm just saying tho 🤷‍♂️

            but I enjoy the alpha, as long as I find one section in the video I like , I'm good 👍

            Hurto11
            Especially when Q3 and Apple Vision comes out, everyone who has been hating on PT will shut their mouths and get converted.

            Is there some secret cult out there that brain-washes people into believing this bullshit and into making such bullshit statements at every possible occasion?

            Vrsumo2017 But you know what I don't like the plushies videos, or the twerking videos that have no nudity but I'm not asking for it to get wiped off the site or im leaving negative comments on the video or down voting comment suggestions,

            There are no such SLRO scenes. There is a huge difference between original content and network content. And yes, I WOULD heavily complain if SLRO decided to shoot such scenes with my subscription money.

            Vrsumo2017 But viewers should be able to give there opinions but these anti pt users go a lil to far, like ffs if you don't like it don't watch it, we're not asking to get rid of yalls plushie videos. Lol 😆 🤣 😂 😹

            So you'd be happy if SLRO began to shoot classic 2d porn and release it under the SLRO label? That's pretty much the same for me than AR vs VR (well, with the difference that I actually watch and enjoy 2D porn whch isn't the case for AR porn...)

            Vrsumo2017 No need for hate its all love 😉

            Stating that you don't like certain content involves no hate at all. I know that people use the term "hate" every time they simply want to devalue somebody else's statements that they don't agree with on the internet but you seem to be a nice guy so you really shouldn't fall for this crap.