Badoink

Rakly3

[deleted] BUT, as I say, they have an independent processor that allows subscribers to use Vanilla Visa and Gift Cards. SLR would get a tonne more subscribers if they accepted alternative methods of payment.

for umpfth time. Our payment processors allow gift cards, it's the card issuer that blocks Epoch etc. You have to contact the card issuer to allow the payment to go through.

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I don't know about America, but where I live the only option is Vanilla VISA. Segpay accepts payments through Vanilla VISA. None of the other ones do. No, EPOC blocks the card, not the other way around, because it requires a postage address and since Spring 2022 the registration system for postage addresses has gone off-line.

There was a way to get around the registration until recently that involved using The Onion Rounter (TOR) and giving a fake address in the USA. For some reason, a USA address was acceptable. No other country would be able to provide an acceptable address. You can look up the problem up on Reddit, because many customers were complaining.

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Different view in the members area... Nice try, though.

It is true, though, that other sites, presumably affiliated with your work, are more fraudulent. This one, for instance, offers a membership for 1-day that doesn't offer access to any decent, watchable video.

BaberoticaVR is great. I subbed to them. Completely legit, good work, no mind games.

LordCrash

[deleted] Different view in the members area... Nice try, though.

Try for what? I just posted a screenshot that shows how the site looks for new customers. No conspiracy to be found here...

[deleted] They also do stuff like trying to sell you videos that are already part of the subscription.

Simply not true. There are no scenes from other networks/sites on the video tab on BVR anymore.

[deleted] I say "your work" because I'm assuming you are LordRaznarock from Indexxx.

I don't know who that is but I'm pretty sure it's not me. Maybe you should stop assuming so much...

Rakly3

[deleted] No, EPOC blocks the card, not the other way around, because it requires a postage address and since Spring 2022 the registration system for postage addresses has gone off-line.

That's just KYC laws the Credit Card issuers and payment providers have to abide by to do business with wherever the payment provider is registered. You can't even have a nameless phone number in many places in the EU.

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They also do stuff like trying to sell you videos that are already part of the subscription.

I say "your work" because I'm assuming you are LordRaznarock from Indexxx.

[deleted]

Where does it specify one video here? Total deceptive advertising.

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I have a Vanilla Visa from before the recession and I'd love to use it with SLR. And yet I can only use it with sketchy sites like BadoinkVR etc... Maybe SLR could consider adding Segpay or some company that accepts the standard porn cards?

Rakly3

[deleted] Badoink is registered in the USA, we aren't. It's not going to make a difference. The same requirements and laws will apply as to Epoch etc to pay to us.

catflap

I have to say WetVR is the worst of the VR sites -
1 ) You get no idea of how many videos are in their catalog (their web page obscures it)
2 ) When I had my brief membership, they didnt upload much - they repeatedly missed their deadlines for "1 scene per week" or whatever it was.

In another defense of Badoink -
They do a 10/10 job with makeup and costumes. If you look at their Alyx Starr video, she looks amazing! Look at any of the other videos (including SLR) and she does not look on the same level of babehood

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catflap makeup and costumes

I'd prefer less make-up. It's like anime there's so much make-up. Again, though, that's my preference.

ItsForTheArticles

catflap In another defense of Badoink -
They do a 10/10 job with makeup and costumes

I agree 100%. More often than not, the scenes where performers look their best (outfits, lighting, contrast, etc...) are their Badoink scenes. This is why it would be really smart for them to pick a sampling of their best scenes to showcase on SLR to be used as an advertisement to subscribe to them for their full catalog.

Right now, I feel like:
Badoink tends to get the performers to look their best.
SLRO can be the most innovative in what they attempt.
CzechVR is usually the best technically, in terms of image quality and camera/scene positioning.

What's really cool at this point in time is that these strengths don't need to be set in stone and the best producers will learn from the others.

someoneX

LordCrash Doesn't change the fact that they try to cheat existing customers - which is almost worse IMO.

I'm a lifetime member myself and they show me that 1 day offer every time I visit the site. You can't even subscribe to an additional subsite (18VR, etc.) without accepting that offer first. I don't fall for it and don't have the risk to extend my main subscription by accident, but they would try to do that too.

In that respect they are the worst of the bigger/Top10 VR porn sites/networks.

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I made my point. It's hard to argue against blind contradiction. Glad you are happy with your subs. I'm not much of a fan, but about 10 videos are good.

I just uploaded an image where one video was part of the sub and the video beside it was the same video, on a different site of the network, offered for sale.

LordCrash

someoneX You can't even subscribe to an additional subsite (18VR, etc.) without accepting that offer first.

Yes, of course you can. You have to go the the respective site manually but you can. I have a sub for BVR, 18VR, KinkVR and VRCosplay with the same account and I never got a one dollar sub first... 😉

And yes, you can be annoyed by that advertizing strategy but I don't see any cheating here. You get what you pay for.

catflap

someoneX how do you "get through" so much content, given that presumably you also subscribe to SLR?
I have a lifetime for a couple of the badoink sites, but dont often open them because SLR and DeoVR is a better combination

RockyMtHigh

I’m sorry but anyone who thinks $1 gets them as many downloads as they can lacks common sense. It’s called too good to be true.

LordCrash

[deleted] It's hard to argue against blind contradiction.

Are you talking with yourself? Ok, then.

[deleted] I just uploaded an image where one video was part of the sub and the video beside it was the same video, on a different site of the network, offered for sale.

There are ZERO such scenes or ads on BVR for me. They made some major changes only recently, maybe you missed it.

someoneX

catflap Only 5-10% of all releases are good, so 10 new scenes don't take hours to watch, because I skip through 9 out of 10. Studios also have different strengths and weaknesses and their own style and type of content, so it's nice to have more for additional variation.

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LordCrash There are ZERO such scenes

You are either being paid to advertise for them or just completely in the dark.

Both of these scenes are in the default search results from BadoinkVR members area. They advertise the same scene with different thumbnails, where the left one is available for purchase as a BabeVR scene and the right one part of the premium subscription for members of BadoinkVR. To download the one on the left requires an extra 1 dollar payment. Maybe 1 buck isn't much to you, and one shouldn't expect much of anything for 1 dollar, but BadoinkVR is using different thumbnails for the same scene as part of a fraud.

LordCrash

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I actually haven't used the search on BVR for ages but that's still not a fraud. They released this BabeVR scene as a BONUS scene on BVR in the past but it also still exists in its original form on BabeVR and when you search on the whole network you find both entries for the same scene. Not very convenient but not intended as a fraud. It's actually pretty wild blame them for adding content from their other sites to the BVR catalogue for free (the right one is clearly marked as bonus scene by the way...). And it's not even advertizing anyway, it's just the result of your search. Again, there is no such advertizing (aka placing content in places for you to see them without looking for them in the first place) on the main page for any such scene right now.

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