I have to say WetVR is the worst of the VR sites -
1 ) You get no idea of how many videos are in their catalog (their web page obscures it)
2 ) When I had my brief membership, they didnt upload much - they repeatedly missed their deadlines for "1 scene per week" or whatever it was.

In another defense of Badoink -
They do a 10/10 job with makeup and costumes. If you look at their Alyx Starr video, she looks amazing! Look at any of the other videos (including SLR) and she does not look on the same level of babehood

    [deleted] Different view in the members area... Nice try, though.

    Try for what? I just posted a screenshot that shows how the site looks for new customers. No conspiracy to be found here...

    [deleted] They also do stuff like trying to sell you videos that are already part of the subscription.

    Simply not true. There are no scenes from other networks/sites on the video tab on BVR anymore.

    [deleted] I say "your work" because I'm assuming you are LordRaznarock from Indexxx.

    I don't know who that is but I'm pretty sure it's not me. Maybe you should stop assuming so much...

            LordCrash Doesn't change the fact that they try to cheat existing customers - which is almost worse IMO.

            I'm a lifetime member myself and they show me that 1 day offer every time I visit the site. You can't even subscribe to an additional subsite (18VR, etc.) without accepting that offer first. I don't fall for it and don't have the risk to extend my main subscription by accident, but they would try to do that too.

            In that respect they are the worst of the bigger/Top10 VR porn sites/networks.

                someoneX You can't even subscribe to an additional subsite (18VR, etc.) without accepting that offer first.

                Yes, of course you can. You have to go the the respective site manually but you can. I have a sub for BVR, 18VR, KinkVR and VRCosplay with the same account and I never got a one dollar sub first... 😉

                And yes, you can be annoyed by that advertizing strategy but I don't see any cheating here. You get what you pay for.

                  I’m sorry but anyone who thinks $1 gets them as many downloads as they can lacks common sense. It’s called too good to be true.

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                  LordCrash

                  I made my point. It's hard to argue against blind contradiction. Glad you are happy with your subs. I'm not much of a fan, but about 10 videos are good.

                  I just uploaded an image where one video was part of the sub and the video beside it was the same video, on a different site of the network, offered for sale.

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                      catflap makeup and costumes

                      I'd prefer less make-up. It's like anime there's so much make-up. Again, though, that's my preference.

                        someoneX how do you "get through" so much content, given that presumably you also subscribe to SLR?
                        I have a lifetime for a couple of the badoink sites, but dont often open them because SLR and DeoVR is a better combination

                            catflap Only 5-10% of all releases are good, so 10 new scenes don't take hours to watch, because I skip through 9 out of 10. Studios also have different strengths and weaknesses and their own style and type of content, so it's nice to have more for additional variation.

                              [deleted] It's hard to argue against blind contradiction.

                              Are you talking with yourself? Ok, then.

                              [deleted] I just uploaded an image where one video was part of the sub and the video beside it was the same video, on a different site of the network, offered for sale.

                              There are ZERO such scenes or ads on BVR for me. They made some major changes only recently, maybe you missed it.

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                                    LordCrash There are ZERO such scenes

                                    You are either being paid to advertise for them or just completely in the dark.

                                    Both of these scenes are in the default search results from BadoinkVR members area. They advertise the same scene with different thumbnails, where the left one is available for purchase as a BabeVR scene and the right one part of the premium subscription for members of BadoinkVR. To download the one on the left requires an extra 1 dollar payment. Maybe 1 buck isn't much to you, and one shouldn't expect much of anything for 1 dollar, but BadoinkVR is using different thumbnails for the same scene as part of a fraud.

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                                        I actually haven't used the search on BVR for ages but that's still not a fraud. They released this BabeVR scene as a BONUS scene on BVR in the past but it also still exists in its original form on BabeVR and when you search on the whole network you find both entries for the same scene. Not very convenient but not intended as a fraud. It's actually pretty wild blame them for adding content from their other sites to the BVR catalogue for free (the right one is clearly marked as bonus scene by the way...). And it's not even advertizing anyway, it's just the result of your search. Again, there is no such advertizing (aka placing content in places for you to see them without looking for them in the first place) on the main page for any such scene right now.

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                                          @LordCrash

                                          You are wrong, but you are welcome to your opinion. For your info, the search term was "Solo" and that image hasn't been modified in any way. The results were directly side-by-side, but with different thumbnails and a different date of release. When you sign up for one site and it litters results that can be purchased from another site then it's an advertisement...

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                                            Maybe don't search on the whole network if you don't want to find scenes from other sites that you're not subscribed to....

                                            The search does exactly what it's supposed to be. It finds all results for the corresponding search term on the whole network. And since you're apparently not subscribed to every site on the network there are indeed scenes that you can't watch before paying for them before. So I'm sorry, pal, but you're still wrong. You said it was a fraud but it isn't. It's perfectly ok to not be happy about their site navigation or whatever but accusing them of fraud is just bullshit.

                                              catflap In another defense of Badoink -
                                              They do a 10/10 job with makeup and costumes

                                              I agree 100%. More often than not, the scenes where performers look their best (outfits, lighting, contrast, etc...) are their Badoink scenes. This is why it would be really smart for them to pick a sampling of their best scenes to showcase on SLR to be used as an advertisement to subscribe to them for their full catalog.

                                              Right now, I feel like:
                                              Badoink tends to get the performers to look their best.
                                              SLRO can be the most innovative in what they attempt.
                                              CzechVR is usually the best technically, in terms of image quality and camera/scene positioning.

                                              What's really cool at this point in time is that these strengths don't need to be set in stone and the best producers will learn from the others.

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                                                I'm a member but will stop my membership in a month. I think they suck. Maybe if they got better models for their videos the models would make up for the reality that the direction is poor, the scenarios are mostly repetitious (and dull), and the membership price -- even at only $10.00 a month -- just isn't worth it. Unlike others on this thread, I'm not being paid by them or have an infinite budget to blow on mediocre porn... SLR and quite a few other sites generate a higher number of watchable videos... BadoinkVR is a rip off with dozens of embedded advertisements and tricks like @LordCrash has just shown -- making the default search option query all the videos across their half-dozen sites to try to trick Premium members into buying more (one of a half dozen approaches). Poor porn, disreputable salesmanship... Exactly why CC companies block porn sites.... Just because they aren't as bad as some other sketchy sites doesn't mean they are much good... And they aren't good.

                                                @LordCrash here may have a tonne of money for porn, but he's still wrong about their deceptive salesmanship and telling lies to try to make his point, as the image above shows.

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                                                LordCrash

                                                Well, I show you how they cheat people and you cover your eyes and put your fingers in your ears. All you have to offer is excuses. I'm guessing you are on their payroll, whether you will admit that or not.

                                                I'm a member. I paid them. It's not worth it for my tastes...

                                                SLR offers artist porn. BadoinkVR offers low-class sleaze.

                                                That's my review of it in a nutshell, setting aside their unscrupulous approaches to trick users into double purchases through a rigged default search engine and deceptive thumbnails for the same videos on different sites of their network.

                                                    [deleted] their porn isnt that bad...

                                                    in my experience every porn site uses unsavoury tricks... often multiple. slr is no exception either. and you know what? so do many non porn companies. there is literally a whole industry built around it. ads and marketing. you know why? people are dumb... or naive... and the tricks work. dont hate the player... hate the game

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                                                      @spacepirate

                                                      SLR was very reputable, until they announced that reduction of downloads by 1/2. But at least that violation of trust and their contractual agreement was so drastic that anyone who so chose could seek a refund (and likely receive it).

                                                      Part of my beef with Badoink is that Badoink and BabeVR are really the same site -- they have virtually the same models for solo stuff as for hardcore. I realized too late just how tasteless the hardcore stuff was, excepting a few videos. The site just isn't anywhere near as good as SLR, but that's probably to be expected given the price ...

                                                      I get pissed off by such superficial and dishonest tactics. If that's the game they play, it's completely understandable for folks to play their own games, through piracy. Because that's part of the game too.

                                                        So @[deleted] i have been following this thread and your complaint about Badoink being underhanded in their practices, and I really think you are giving them too much credit.

                                                        My guess is that there are probably two things going on.

                                                        1. As @LordCrash pointed out the search term is set to “all studios” which you think is an underhanded sales tactic, but realistically I’m willing to bet a dev set that drop-down to display in “alpha numeric” sort and moved on. (A comes before B)
                                                        2. Search can be hard and the results you are seeing may in fact be a bug. It might be showing all results matching a term rather than finding results then filtering them based on the user’s account status.

                                                        Either way everything we discuss here is purely speculation and if you have a problem with it reach out to their support and tell them you have bug/feature requests to report. Then tell them what you are experiencing as a user and explain that it makes you feel like they are being underhanded in their business practices. They may actually thank you.