I swear I saw vids from this studio in upcoming releases and now they are gone , will SLR be getting Badoink VR?
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Bostonboi6177 That particular issue that you saw was a system glitch that happened maybe 2ish(?) weeks ago. We're always working with other studios/producers to bring their content to SLR, but in this case the answer would be no, or at least "not right now".
Badoink not the best example as am not a huge fan but I hope more sites can eventually move away from SLR. I don’t think it’s healthy to have one site having so much power. I’m not saying SLR are the bad guys and I get that they are the reason some of these sites are able to even operate but we need to get to a point where VR porn is popular enough so sites can get their own subscribers and stand on their own.
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Bostonboi6177 Unfortunately we don't see immediate plans for release
petermc I don’t know if I understand the logic behind this I can only assume content producers would want as many revenue streams for their work as possible.
Porn aside if you look at Netflix, Apple or Amazon they all make their own content but they also aggregate content from other sources as well. They give the studios revenue for the content shared making lower viewed second run and classic items from their site look new again to a whole new audience, while introducing the consumer to works that may not have otherwise experienced.
Let’s face it as a consumer I’m not going to go out and pay a subscription for every single site out there, instead I am going to find the aggregator that provides me the best bang for my buck. It’s Spotify, it’s prime, it’s Netflix, it’s SLR.
Back to porn, even when a studio does get big enough it makes financial sense to partner to provide additional revenue and recognition. Building an application is expensive, buying and integrating competitor is expensive. Partnering generally speaking isn’t.
The holdouts in the movie industry figured this out, as well as, the holdouts in the music industry. I can only assume porn wil stay the course as well.
Sperson Your comparison with Netflix gives you the answer. When streaming was a new market most studios offered their content on Netflix, now the market is big enough and they don't want to share the income with a broker or service provider. So the bigger studios created their own platforms like Disney+, HBO Max, etc.
As soon as a company believes it can provide a suitable platform itself, while generating at least the same revenues in the medium or long term, it will do so. That's why it's primarily the big studios that don't offer their content, or do so with restrictions (e.g. delays of several months).
Your content will probably have to be watched for thousands of hours on a streaming platform before you can earn the same revenue as with a subscription you sell yourself.
Some studios will eventually realize that they were wrong in their assessment and come back. Others will leave.
Netflix is an aggregator of content but you now find that a lot of the studios who made that content now have their own standalone streaming services and are removing their content from Netflix. The Marvel shows have gone to Disney, The Office gone to Peacock, Friends has gone, the list goes on.
Financially for me and you, you’re right, it’s much better for me to pay for one subscription and get access to all this VR content. I’m not sure it’s better for the content makers though. Maybe it is worth it early on to get their name out there but surely the goal is to cut out the middle man and have people pay you direct for your own content. It’s hard to compete though when these big sites like SLR have so much content included and therefore they end up having to play ball and partner up and that means even less people will subscribe to their site as it’s all on SLR already. It also means that these sites have to make scenes that comply with SLR’s rules or their movies won’t be shown so you’re not going to get anyone pushing boundaries.
I’m just not sure that one site having so much power over the whole VR porn market is that healthy for us getting new and interesting content. Sites are kind of stuck in a situation where they need the revenue from putting stuff on SLR as their site doesn’t generate enough income yet but then they can’t build up subscriptions on their site because all their stuff is on SLR for no extra cost. Why would anyone join Realjam when all their content is on here? Why would anyone join VRHush, Fuckpass, Xsinsvr? It would only be out of pure goodwill, it makes no financial sense to pay for those sites when they’re all here.
This is not a bash on SLR, they are smart and have a good business model. They also help a lot of fledgling VR studios who couldn’t make it on their own. I just think it’s become a bit of a vicious circle and we’re not getting too many new sites as it’s impossible to compete with SLR unless you have financial backing from elsewhere to take the early losses when you’re starting up.
Here's a hint.
Search for the studios on SLR that are on the same network as Badoinkvr
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BadoinkVR is a fine example of a very sketchy studio.
You can try it out by this trick to get the membership at $9.99. Click to join and then click the back button on the browser: it will automatically reduce the price and give you a 10 min window to join.
I say it's sketchy for a couple of reasons; in fact it's a fine example of why most folks pirate instead of buying porn. But it has one strength ...
It's strength is that unlike SLR it accepts Vanilla VISA and other pay cards, which are actually essential for buying anything from them, because they use various approaches to try to charge you more and more ...
For example,
Their site search shows results from across their network. If you click any video from one of their other sites they offer a 1-day trial. They don't tell you if you accept the 1-day trial that you will only be able to stream one video...
The site is very hard to cancel, and they have very little content (in 4K, for most videos)... To cancel you must fill in feedback forms and then -- and here's where it gets tricky -- click to confirm through an almost-hidden 'final-cancellation' button.
Many of the descriptions of the videos are entirely inaccurate and do not describe the videos they sell. They do stuff like say this model does X, Y, and Z, which doesn't mean that she does any of those activities in their videos.
The servers are much slower than SLR.
BUT, as I say, they have an independent processor that allows subscribers to use Vanilla Visa and Gift Cards. SLR would get a tonne more subscribers if they accepted alternative methods of payment. No one wants to buy porn with their regular cards, out of fear of hackers, un-endable subscriptions, and policy changes (please add a counter for 144h!).
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I did tell you that feelmevr was looking for a new home. They are on POVR now. Maybe they'll join SLR too? Write them higinio.domingo@gmail.com
The videos look more creative than VRGoddess, but it remains a shame that you lost them.
[deleted] I agree with most what you said, but they don't have very little content. They release two videos per week - and those are real 30+ minute videos with different models and not those short videos and split productions some other studios use to create quantity. The amount of content is top tier if you compare with other major studios.
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[deleted] The site is very hard to cancel, and they have very little content (in 4K, for most videos)... To cancel you must fill in feedback forms and then -- and here's where it gets tricky -- click to confirm through an almost-hidden 'final-cancellation' button.
That's not correct. They have a regular cancellation page on which you can cancel without the need to fill in any forms or whatever. It's actually pretty simple to use and a lot better than most stuff I've seen in the porn sphere elsewhere...
[deleted] Their site search shows results from across their network. If you click any video from one of their other sites they offer a 1-day trial. They don't tell you if you accept the 1-day trial that you will only be able to stream one video...
Very limited trials are usual in the porn space. Nobody should suspect that paying 1 bucks gives you access to anything substantial.
[deleted] The servers are much slower than SLR.
Also not correct in my experience. Their servers are fast and reliable and I usually download with full bandwith (gigabit connection).
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LordCrash cancel without the need to fill in any forms
After you click cancel you need to fill in a form. And then it makes you think that you've cancelled but you haven't because you need to click through another page where the button is hidden as part of the image. Just because other disreputable sites do similar stuff doesn't make them any better. SLR, for example, has an interface that doesn't play mind games to trick customers.
LordCrash Very limited trials
Very limited trials are usual, but saying that you get one day of membership and actually providing only one streamed video is not. That's called telling a lie and why folks complain to credit card companies about porn sites. Credit Card companies feel the need to protect consumers from such obvious deception.
LordCrash Their servers are fast and reliable
Maybe in America but not in all parts of the world. SLR has greater global coverage.
someoneX have very little content.
I'd judge their content relative to SLR and sites like BaberoticaVR ... But maybe I should refine what I mean to 'little content really worth downloading and saving'. I'd say about 10 videos are good, so it's about a buck per video, which is fine, not spectacular. They hire fabulous models but they don't develop the fantasies with any kind of narrative - almost every scene is 'meet woman in mansion, have sex, facial.' There's very little variety and thought behind the videos, no creativity.
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What I really resent is that after paying for a premium membership I don't want to be bombarded with advertisements for unnecessary and unwanted products. In fact, that's one reason I really appreciate SLR. Other than trying to sell 'scripts' SLR respects the choice of subscribers to limit their search options to videos available as part of the Premium membership. Sure, it's possible to find videos not covered by the Premium membership, but the search settings are difficult to find and can't be pressed accidentally. I'd rather have embedded product placements or fewer downloads than annoying click-bait.
Not sure what the problem is -
Badoink has hot girls
They have good videos (open to interpretation)
It is easy to cancel and when you email them, you get a quick reply (they even told me to wait to subscribe because there was a sale coming)
They have one pop-up which comes on during login, which is no different in "irritation factor" to the SLR popup which always shows up asking me if I want their newsletter etc.
[deleted] What I really resent is that after paying for a premium membership I don't want to be bombarded with advertisements for unnecessary and unwanted products.
Like the "Do streaming instead of downloading" pop-up I get every single time on SLR when I download a scene?
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[deleted] That's called telling a lie and why folks complain to credit card companies about porn sites.
People complain to credit card companies about porn sites because they are stupid fucked up bigots. That's the sad truth...
That's how the site actually looks like:
1 Download for free for 1 buck. What's so hard to understand about that? Nobody could claim that they thought they could stream or download the whole catalogue for just a single buck if there are regular subs for 30. That should be pretty obvious. There are FAR more deceptious porn sites out there, like e.g. Brazzers on which you can't even download stuff with a regular sub. That's bullshit. BVR is imho pretty good compared to a lot of other sites (and believe me, I knot a LOT of porn sites, probably more than most people around here).
[deleted] BUT, as I say, they have an independent processor that allows subscribers to use Vanilla Visa and Gift Cards. SLR would get a tonne more subscribers if they accepted alternative methods of payment.
for umpfth time. Our payment processors allow gift cards, it's the card issuer that blocks Epoch etc. You have to contact the card issuer to allow the payment to go through.
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Different view in the members area... Nice try, though.
It is true, though, that other sites, presumably affiliated with your work, are more fraudulent. This one, for instance, offers a membership for 1-day that doesn't offer access to any decent, watchable video.
BaberoticaVR is great. I subbed to them. Completely legit, good work, no mind games.
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I don't know about America, but where I live the only option is Vanilla VISA. Segpay accepts payments through Vanilla VISA. None of the other ones do. No, EPOC blocks the card, not the other way around, because it requires a postage address and since Spring 2022 the registration system for postage addresses has gone off-line.
There was a way to get around the registration until recently that involved using The Onion Rounter (TOR) and giving a fake address in the USA. For some reason, a USA address was acceptable. No other country would be able to provide an acceptable address. You can look up the problem up on Reddit, because many customers were complaining.