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The halving of the quota is unfortunate. And it's not helped by there not being any easy way to tell when your time period is up, because the website doesn't tell you how much time you have left until you're down to the last three movies, and only if you try to download something. The current message on the downloads tab of any movie says something like:

You have 12 downloads remaining in this time period (144 hours).

The mentioning of 144 hours is pointless, because it's already stated in the fair use policy the line above. I'd much rather have some useful information about the current time remaining if there's an active time period, something like:

You have 12 downloads remaining in this time period (57 hours until reset).

    anordr The halving of the quota is unfortunate. And it's not helped by there not being any easy way to tell when your time period is up, because the website doesn't tell you how much time you have left until you're down to the last three movies, and only if you try to download something. The current message on the downloads tab of any movie says something like:

    You have 12 downloads remaining in this time period (144 hours).

    The mentioning of 144 hours is pointless, because it's already stated in the fair use policy the line above. I'd much rather have some useful information about the current time remaining if there's an active time period, something like:

    You have 12 downloads remaining in this time period (57 hours until reset).

    That would be a good idea, so we can exactly know how much time left until reset

    ibins That SLR is not simply kicking those super heavy users out is fair. As others may have stated here, sites like SLR that pay to produce and license content don't make pure profits and thus need some restrictions in place. I would be thankful that SLR offers downloads for a lot of its content as more and more sites are disabling them or moving them to a tiered plan. One big network of sites I know recently made it so subscriptions are streaming-only with downloads only being available on a PPD basis--something I believe SLR had in the past but in order to keep 99.9% of users happy, has mostly deprecated for an excellent (again, for 99.9% of users) Premium experience.

    doublevr

    nothing changed for 99.99% of users

    That just means there's LESS of a reason to change it.

    Regardless of one's stance on this and whether it is fair, that is on principle a terrible argument and there's countless examples why "It doesn't effect the 99.99%" is a terrible argument. And when there are problems, you make exceptions for the 0.01%.

    And again, lifetime subs aren't ransacking your site and taking off with an unfair amount of videos and cancelling their subscription.

      Rakly3 Those sites don't have 25,000 or so scenes. You can download their whole library with 150 downloads or less.

      So there's even less reason to reduce the downloads, because SLR has so many scenes, that even 30 downloads per 72 hours wouldn't allow someone to leech everything with a single month subscription. It would take years, if you even can keep up with the new releases.

      I understand why VRBangers and other studio sites use limits (still not as low as yours), because it prevents users from easily downloading everything within one month, with very little reason to keep the subscription after that.

      SLR is the last site that has that risk and is/was considered a baseline subscription by many. If there are still users doing it, you won't stop them with that new limit - cheap skates like that will just masturbate to the same scenes twice as much or switch to piracy.

        ThePointyEnd That just means there's LESS of a reason to change it.

        0.01% of accounts download hundreds of times more than the other 99.99% together.
        Even with the new limit in place, this is true.

        someoneX ThePointyEnd
        Anyway, you're assuming to know the reasons for the change.

          I just want to say if you need to download 150 videos a month you probably have a porn addiction (not a laughing matter at all) and this might be in your best interest.

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          Polar

          Users on here wouldn't appreciate a lecture on this topic. Language matters. You don't want users creating mash-ups with large extracts of your footage. I'd find clearer language given the context.

          Note: 'Fair Use' not 'Fair Dealing'

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          Rakly3

          100+ GB files is an insane luxury for a very limited number of users (right? stats?) given the present state of technology/

          If bandwidth is the issue, it would be smarter to limit those large files than implement universal policy.

          Count them as 10 files... The ones above, say, 75 GB.

            Rakly3

            Rakly3 0.01% of accounts download hundreds of times more than the other 99.99% together.
            Even with the new limit in place, this is true.

            So you wanna tell, 0,01% users load 150 videos per month, because well they can not load more.
            And this is 100x more then the rest 99,99%, so the 99,99% load in SUM 15 videos.

            Or let´s put this in more concrete numbers.

            Let´s assume you have 10000 users.

            1 user loads 150 videos.
            9999 users load 15 videos in sum or in other words 0,0015 videos per user.

            Sounds really believable. 🙃

              ibins
              Most users don't download full scenes, yes.
              But I didn't say 99.99% of users. I said accounts.
              What I should have clarified though, is that I wasn't counting in # of scenes, but in data volume. The majority of users use less than one full average-length scene a month. Downloads usually also go for the highest quality, or the even larger studio files. Not everyone streams at the highest quality, especially users who stream through their browser. Surprisingly many users stream with the oculus browser instead of app.


              The point is mute anyway. Most changes happen for completely different reasons than what users think.

                doublevr

                BTW the idea of fair use is not to have any hard limit at all.

                Fair use means that you are expected to be under a certain limit in the long term. If you occasionally exceed the limit nothing happens at all.
                If you regularly exceed the limit, you get a warning.
                Depending on the exact policy you might get a second or third warning, and finally if you ignore them you get the access to the service you used more then you should suspended.

                A hard limit is just the opposite of fair use. It is a part of a contract that says you pay X amount and for this you get the service for Y amount. Of course there is nothing generally wrong with that, as long as you do not suddenly change already sealed contracts.

                Rakly3

                Rakly3 But I didn't say 99.99% of users. I said accounts.

                Does not make any difference at all, I assumed 1 user per account, but of course there might be user that have multiple accounts.

                  ibins I think you replied before I edited the post with more text.

                  [deleted] What country are you from? You sure seem to think you know a lot about America for not living here. I'm going to guess eastern Europe or a right wing Australian with a statement like this "and has already spent 65 billion stoking war against Russia and rejecting a viable peace deal".

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                    rerun119 stoking war against Russia

                    You know your society is fucked when a love for peace is likened to right-wing nuttery. The peace deal stalled when U.S. politicians insisted that Ukraine keep the right to join NATO. I'm certainly not right-wing. It's just that I read and don't like war and death. Not that this has anything to do with the topic at hand, other than the reality that with billions going to finance a state-sponsored expansionist agenda companies -- all companies including porn makers -- can't offer as much. This is not to excuse the unexpected, possibly illegal change in terms here, just to observe the underlying causes.

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                    TemporaryName When am I getting my 50% refund?

                    If you complain immediately to EPOCH and provide a screen capture of the changed terms, they will cancel your payment and account within a few days. They will calculate a proportionate refund based on when that happens.

                    But I'd recommend staying on here. The content is exclusive and the site remains better than the competitor POVR.

                    RockyMtHigh Respectfully, it is really none of your business how other people use their subscriptions. If they paid for a certain deal and the company changes it, they have every right to complain and they certainly don't need to justify their porn habits or usage to you. You kind of have a lot of nerve even offerring your judgements here. Best to let them duke it out with the company while you keep your comments to yourself.