Downloads plan revamp

Silly-Sausage
I’m being realistic. As a lifetime user this would mean I have 50 downloads a month not to mention infinite streaming. As someone who has been extremely active for about 2 years I would not notice this.

This is still in the works as well. I don’t think the intent is to punish regular users, but to rather do something about those who are essentially downloading the entire catalogue.

I think discussions about this, which SLR is doing is important. Rather than VRbangers just straight up removing the option completely

xeddin1 I download a shit ton for creative content and probably won’t feel this effect. I don’t think most people will notice

It's quite simple: Anyone downloading more than 30/month will notice. If a shit ton is equivalent to no more than 30/month, then you will not.

doublevr Data hoarders showing the worst product loyalty will pay a fair price or go.

If these users are the problem, why not implement a plan that is more restrictive towards short-term subscribers only?

For example, Reality Lovers has the following model:

• 1 month: (4K) streaming only
• 3 months: 15 downloads per week
• 12 months: Unlimited downloads

SchnuppiLilac
I like this a lot. It addresses the issue, targets the category of users that are most likely to abuse data hoarding, while not impacting the non abusers

Silly-Sausage
I've been active on the forums for 3 years and the switch from PC/VR to Quest3/DeoVR is when downloads became less of a concern for me. I now fall in the camp of not noticing because I can stream uninterruptedly without loading issues unlike before which was my original need for downloading. Data insights show Quest 2 and 3 are majority of headset users and SLR Streaming vs Downloads data paints a picture of how much regular users would be affected.

In my opinion, even just one download per day is better than no downloads at all; possibilities still exist. Because I no longer use PC/VR and instead upgraded to Quest3/DeoVR which makes it possible to lay down watching vrporn, I plan on downloading one or two videos a day from either sub to my PC and then uploading them to my future SLR Drive to stream on my Quest3. I don't know what their download limits are, but I would imagine I fall on the reasonable side. If any of them remove the option, that's the end of my several years sub.

Silly-Sausage
Was your nickname Karen or Dunning-Kruger?

I feel like you should make an "unlimited download" tier, and price it accordingly.
But I agree it should be a "pay per use" type of thing, kind of like toll roads.

really bad move and will lose a lot of customers including me

doublevr Honestly, I saw this coming, just wasn't sure how or when. SLR has been taking smaller steps compared to VRB, who made a huge move by completely removing the download button. The goal is the same though, pushing people to use the app by streaming.

I just wanted to ask @doublevr, help me see things clearer, let's say in a year from now, you have 100% streaming users and 0 download allocations per month. How does this benefit your company beyond just 'collecting data'? Because personally, SLR is my favorite VR site and I do want to see it more successful, more success means better content for us.

[deleted] I think 100% removal of downloads like VRB did is a terrible idea. But 30/40/50 downloads a months plus extra when you stream for a few minutes… I personally don’t understand how some people are grabbing pitchforks over this. I think I download ALOT and I don’t reach this limit. The time it takes to download and storage space alone would not allow me to reach these limits.

I feel I am missing something as to why this amount of downloads per month is low. Or everyone just has 100TB of storage 10x fiber optics download speed

xeddin1 I think I download ALOT and I don’t reach this limit.

Then you're not downloading a lot.

xeddin1 I feel I am missing something as to why this amount of downloads per month is low. Or everyone just has 100TB of storage 10x fiber optics download speed

If you primarily stream then you wouldn't understand.

xeddin1 Currently I'm not downloading a lot as I'm mostly living at my partner's place. Streaming works ok for me here (when she's not around) but when at my own place I can and will easily download 100+ videos/month to my NAS server and sort them into folders, tags, etc.

Setting a limit at 30 or so a month wouldn't work for me as I much prefer my solution. Besides I don't get that I (a loyal subscriber) has to be limited because of others misuse.

Anyway I'll see how it goes and then nake my choice then.

xeddin1 Believe me, storage was never an issue for people. I had 5 hard drives, each with 4TB, all packed with VR content I loved or wanted to watch in the future from various sites I subbed to (no flat scenes). Last week, I bought another 5TB drive specifically for VRBangers. Looks like I'll need to get another one for SLR now!

xeddin1 I see you joined this forum about 12 days ago, around the time VRB removed downloads. So, you're probably one of their pawns or even one of SLR's (high chance you're doublevr himself). But here's the thing, I have 100mbit/s internet speed, which is enough to send emails and Zoom sessions for work I have no plans in making it faster, but it's not suitable for streaming 6k/8k VR content (4k works fine).

I'm a lifetime subscriber to VRB, but now I can't watch their content after they removed downloads. I'm glad somebody made that extension, which helped me use my 20 downloads/day for the last 10 days to fill up that hard drive.

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I joined the forums a few weeks ago because I am interested in making PMV content. Check out the links below for some of my work. Will have to do some research for storage, right now I’m using a thumb drive which is not the best option

[First VR PMV] - Made for fun
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/sy0pwo2gis112jqxnm87d/Champion.mp4?rlkey=tumzim9grvdwc1zy4e6mir3vo&st=i39440kv&dl=0

[First Passthrough VR PMV]
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ymtqoo1jv9m6v0btpw453/FullPassthroughVRPMV.mp4?rlkey=id4hnni90b9exxyf3w0ivkluo&st=vmfhfo52&dl=0

[Trailer for new VR PMV]
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/49awteeu9e4ec7vr6ezzr/beattest.mp4?rlkey=ighliqnghlkcuqmm4680ieb3y&st=18p5m67l&dl=0

xeddin1 I know, I've seen your posts and the threads you've made since you joined. That's the easiest story and bio SLR could come up with for a disguised agent. Maybe your career plan, resume, and personality are still written on a whiteboard in their office, even your Discord username...lol

Anyway, it doesn't matter. You don't have to prove anything to me or answer my conspiracy theories. Just help me understand how lowering the downloads per month benefits SLR.