Upcoming price and download limit change

doublevr

Update: https://forum.sexlikereal.com/d/7862-downloads-plans-revamp/

We are considering introducing lower price tiers for new subscribers.
It will come with
-50% downloads limit for monthly plan.
-30% for monthly non-recurring
-25% for annual
-15% for LT.
We are still checking on the actual limit numbers to make sure we find a golden ratio and keep everyone happy

All the active subs will keep their current limits intact. There will be upgrade option for each plan. There will be an option to buy extra downloads.

Main problem comes from users misusing recurring monthly sub instead of going non-recurring monthly.

Perfectly we want to separate streaming and data hoarding users

Hairsational

Reducing download limits again? Those are significant reductions and you already have the most restrictive download limits of any site. No doubt there's going to be a lot of pissed off people this time.

doublevr Main problem comes from users misusing recurring monthly sub instead of going non-recurring monthly.

That pricing model never made sense.

SchnuppiLilac

doublevr There will be an option to buy extra downloads.

What can we expect here in terms of conditions and pricing?

doublevr Main problem comes from users misusing recurring monthly sub instead of going non-recurring monthly.

There is no misuse as long as you are offering 1 month at two different prices. Could be avoided by starting the rebate on the second month or reducing the number of days for non-recurring access.

Kolaches

doublevr I want to buy lifetime but was just billed for annual last month. Am I out of luck and should wait a year or could something be done about that?

[deleted]

One observation: It's likely that you're experiencing more downloads than usual this month due to the release of Quest 3. I've downloaded films for the obvious reason that streaming at Quest 3 quality results in significant network lagging (some months I don't download much).

One suggestion: Bandwidth costs are lower than studio costs, I'm guessing. I'd suggest that you permit unlimited downloads of the SLR Originals films, since once a film is made you pay no royalties on distribution.

One further observation: What about films you've downloaded that turned out to be broken, and unwatchable. For instance, the SLR Originals Sex Shop film has a dirty lens. Five or more of the recent films from BaberoticaVR have lens blur for one of the lenses.

I recall suggesting at one point a $10.00 tier, for either unlimited streaming or 30 downloads (and valid for only one month). That's what you need in this economy.

doublevr

Hairsational active users won't be affected. It's only for new users

[deleted]

Hairsational Main problem comes from users misusing recurring monthly sub instead of going non-recurring monthly.

I can't be the only person who assumed that option was there to trick folks who don't subscribe to sites like this. Most sites like this use a similar tier to catch noobs.

Whatever you do, I wouldn't advise you to increase the price in this economy. Reduce service, if that's necessary, but increasing the price will only lead to fewer users. Currently POVR is offering a very competitive plan of $15.00 per month, with some non-3D sites like ALSScan reduced to $9.99 for Black Friday. Heck, BadoinkVR is at $9.99 per month, and they have a massive library of films.

Hairsational

doublevr A lot of users aren't lifetime members or permanently subscribed

doublevr

Hairsational go figure it

[deleted]

Hairsational A lot of users aren't lifetime members or permanently subscribed

It also removes all users like myself forced to travel for at least one month of the year. I can't speak for others, but in my case it's not data hording. I download stuff, view it in high quality, and then, in most cases, delete stuff.

doublevr

SchnuppiLilac What can we expect here in terms of conditions and pricing?

Very reasonable. We want to make things work for everyone and have our users happy. Still doing the math behind it. Data hoarders should not have advantage over streaming users like it is now.

Downloads aren't evil. We just have to structure it right.
We know to succeed where others have failed and making things work for everyone.

[deleted]

SchnuppiLilac starting the rebate on the second month

That was the game of the notorious GirlsDoPorn. I was never a victim of their scam, but they used to require two months of subscription to download 4K content and BTS scenes. In addition, these "elite" users would gain access to the complaint e-mails submitted to them by their models. That decision didn't turn out to be such a smart idea.

LordCrash

doublevr Very reasonable. We want to make things work for everyone and have our users happy.

doublevr We can have an upgrade 50 downloads for $19.99 with no expiration for the time of active premium.

That's reasonable for you?!?! Ok then... 🤣

I can get a monthly sub on NA and download like 3000 scenes for less than 20 bucks.

And ... 🥁 ... they are much longer in the business than SLR... 💣️

brawlicone

doublevr how can you say "we want to make our users happy" and call them "data hoarders" in the same sentence?? you do realize there are other headsets other than quest right? who wants to stream with a high end pc and high end pcvr headset?? no one in their right mind. It's always gonna look better played directly from a file. How the hell do you set up a vr porn site and then turn around act like the customers are the enemy for using it as its set up by YOUR COMPANY. If you want to blame anyone for the bandwith or network issues , maybe dont let 4000 different studios run on the same platform lol It's not our fault you let any shitty studio with a vr camera host here. I'm seriously so glad i decided to cancel my sub after being here the last 4 years. You guys are like the disney of vr porn the way you act towards the source of your income. "evolve or else" ? Who threatens their customers for using a service they pay for ???? Compared to other sites you guys are a very inconsistent hot mess and you don't even realize it...Calling your source of income "stupid" when you don't even understand that a vr video looks better played off your computer than streamed over a server. that's priceless.... well i guess not priceless for the people smart enough to know the difference between direct play and streamed. Subs say they'll quit and you say "deal" lmao...ive never in my life seen a company with such childish and unprofessional customer relations. You do you realize ALL your videos are available for FREE with NO DOWNLOAD LIMITS on the internet.??? most on the same day you release them. We pay for your service not because we have to, but out of respect and support so you can grow . the way you act towards us is completely ridiculous. what a fucking business model .....bragging about having the most videos but getting upset and disrespectful if paying customers download too many of them lmao it's gonna be hilarious when you push away more loyal customers with your nonsense.

doublevr

We can have an upgrade 50 downloads for $19.99 with no expiration for the time of active premium. These will be used once a user is out of limit.
And 10 scripts for $9.99.

SchnuppiLilac

doublevr We can have an upgrade 50 downloads for $19.99

If the goal is to let frequent downloaders pay for the additional traffic, I don't think this offer is attractive. For $20 you can get a second subscription with the competition and an additional 600 downloads per month plus their exclusive content. So I think this approach will only reduce downloads but will not generate any significant additional revenue.

When I am downloading videos it is because I want to watch them in the highest bitrate available and I can't do this by streaming. I am not building any archives. My days are numbered and I am hardly able to keep up with all the new videos coming out every day.

Rakly3

doublevr And 10 scripts for $9.99

Human made scripts?!

theHobbit

Good move. I only ever stream I download if I find out a studio is leaving like Swallowbay, in which case I may download 1 or 2 favourite scenes.

fenderwq

Why would yearly downloads need to be limited further? I almost never hit the download limit but I hate having to think about it or having to make sure I download things regularly. I also don't want to stream for various reasons and have been continously subscribed for years btw.

I guess it won't effect me personally since I'm already subscribed but still. If your drive crashes or you have been on holiday for a while and you need to download a little more than usual, I think that should be possibly every now and again on a yearly sub.

petergriff

If the choice is buy extra downloads or spend that money on another site that doesn't have those restrictions, I can't see any possible scenario where I'm buying the downloads. You're already the most expensive option on the market.

SLR seems to be the only VR site that consistently sees downloading as a problem that needs fixing.

doublevr

petergriff look where other sites have got over 8 years and compare with slr. We must be doing something right i guess.

Evolve or else. Easy

doublevr

Kolaches there had to be upgrade option in your profile

Kolaches

doublevr yeah but the painful part is paying for a year right before lifetime. Low expectations but can there be anything done about that where I can just pay the difference or am I out of luck pretty much

ZENRA

SLR's download limits are very gracious. If you need to download hundreds of scenes a month, please realize there is a good chance a site like SLR that not only produces its own content, but monthly pays royalties out to studios may in fact lose money. Porn, as crazy as it may sound, does not grow on trees.

Per pricing, do note the economy is not in a good shape. Netflix now is in shooting distance of being the same price as an adult paysite in spite of them getting MUCH better processing rates and having magnitudes more users. That smaller sites (and yes, compared to Netflix, SLR is a small site) and especially those in our industry can hold the fort at pricing the way they have been over the years (or decades now) should be seen as commendable.

Hairsational

ZENRA Try justify it however you want. Other comparable sites aren't increasing prices or reducing their far more generous download limits.

sylvan

ZENRA What you are proposing does not shock me; if I accept I buy, if it doesn't suit me, I'll look elsewhere; for me 30 downloads every 6 days is enough: I don't do streaming and since I have a lifetime subscription, I haven't downloaded a lot (much less than 30 every 6 days); on the other hand, this must not change over time of course; I subscribed for life for 30 downloads, it must stay that way.

Rakly3

Hairsational Prices only have come down on SLR, a lot. Almost half for annual subs.

metichemsi

Data hoarder is a term you use for your customers now? Misusing? Users only ever operate within the confines that your system has established. The lack of foresight on such obvious matters should have been thought out more thoroughly instead.

TemporaryName

I'm a lifer... so THIS proposed decrease doesn't affect me..

But when I signed up here, for life, my download limit was advertised as double what it is now. I still want what I paid for. That's one of the main reasons I paid here and not elsewhere. I've since gotten an additional lifetime sub elsewhere and I get up to 20 every single day (much more than I can or want to use there most days.. but it's there if/when I decide to use it.. I like that flexiblity). The download limits are already the lowest here, but as long as you give people what is advertised at the time they pay, I'm fine with it. Then it's the customer's choice to decide if the offer is right for them for the price.

SchnuppiLilac

[deleted] at Quest 3 quality

What do you mean by this? The streaming versions of the videos and their quality are the same as before the release of Q3, aren't they?

Next Page »