• SLR

  • Upcoming price and download limit change

I'm a lifer... so THIS proposed decrease doesn't affect me..

But when I signed up here, for life, my download limit was advertised as double what it is now. I still want what I paid for. That's one of the main reasons I paid here and not elsewhere. I've since gotten an additional lifetime sub elsewhere and I get up to 20 every single day (much more than I can or want to use there most days.. but it's there if/when I decide to use it.. I like that flexiblity). The download limits are already the lowest here, but as long as you give people what is advertised at the time they pay, I'm fine with it. Then it's the customer's choice to decide if the offer is right for them for the price.

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doublevr

One observation: It's likely that you're experiencing more downloads than usual this month due to the release of Quest 3. I've downloaded films for the obvious reason that streaming at Quest 3 quality results in significant network lagging (some months I don't download much).

One suggestion: Bandwidth costs are lower than studio costs, I'm guessing. I'd suggest that you permit unlimited downloads of the SLR Originals films, since once a film is made you pay no royalties on distribution.

One further observation: What about films you've downloaded that turned out to be broken, and unwatchable. For instance, the SLR Originals Sex Shop film has a dirty lens. Five or more of the recent films from BaberoticaVR have lens blur for one of the lenses.

I recall suggesting at one point a $10.00 tier, for either unlimited streaming or 30 downloads (and valid for only one month). That's what you need in this economy.

      [deleted] at Quest 3 quality

      What do you mean by this? The streaming versions of the videos and their quality are the same as before the release of Q3, aren't they?

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          Hairsational A lot of users aren't lifetime members or permanently subscribed

          It also removes all users like myself forced to travel for at least one month of the year. I can't speak for others, but in my case it's not data hording. I download stuff, view it in high quality, and then, in most cases, delete stuff.

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            SchnuppiLilac

            I didn't download the massive original files before getting Quest 3. With Quest 3 there's a visible difference between the "original files" and processed / compressed files.

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                Hairsational Main problem comes from users misusing recurring monthly sub instead of going non-recurring monthly.

                I can't be the only person who assumed that option was there to trick folks who don't subscribe to sites like this. Most sites like this use a similar tier to catch noobs.

                Whatever you do, I wouldn't advise you to increase the price in this economy. Reduce service, if that's necessary, but increasing the price will only lead to fewer users. Currently POVR is offering a very competitive plan of $15.00 per month, with some non-3D sites like ALSScan reduced to $9.99 for Black Friday. Heck, BadoinkVR is at $9.99 per month, and they have a massive library of films.

                  ZENRA What you are proposing does not shock me; if I accept I buy, if it doesn't suit me, I'll look elsewhere; for me 30 downloads every 6 days is enough: I don't do streaming and since I have a lifetime subscription, I haven't downloaded a lot (much less than 30 every 6 days); on the other hand, this must not change over time of course; I subscribed for life for 30 downloads, it must stay that way.

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                    SchnuppiLilac

                    Quest 2 was terrible. I could hardly see anything with that device, and it gave me headaches.

                    Quest 3 is a real headset for non-gaming VR experiences. The software needs work, but it's very usable.

                    I can see the difference between compressed and original files with Quest 3.

                    I really hope this isn't my fault for this limit change. I downloaded quite a bit this month, basically all the films I downloaded in previous months at compressed resolution.

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                      SchnuppiLilac It was clearly visible on Q2 too.

                      Can you see the difference with Quest 2?

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                          SchnuppiLilac starting the rebate on the second month

                          That was the game of the notorious GirlsDoPorn. I was never a victim of their scam, but they used to require two months of subscription to download 4K content and BTS scenes. In addition, these "elite" users would gain access to the complaint e-mails submitted to them by their models. That decision didn't turn out to be such a smart idea.

                              [deleted] I think the issue for SLR is this:
                              You can get 30 day access for 32.99. You can get a monthly recurring subcription for 24.99. If you take the latter and cancel in the first month, you will have 30 day access for 24.99 instead of 32.99. As soon as you realise this, it would be stupid to pay a higher price for the same thing.

                                  [deleted] Depending on the clarity of the 'original' file, I think you could. If for example skin texture looked super sharp in the 'original', sharpness was less pronounced in the compressed file. On the other hand, there are many 'original files' in which skin texture seems already unsharp, so in those videos the difference didn't matter that much. Moreover, some studios already provide original files that are fairly compressed with a bitrate of 50 Mbps. After the SLR treatment and another round of compression, the streaming files will have only 22 Mbps, and for sure this makes a difference.

                                  Talking about skin texture sharpness: Alex Mack isn't getting a lot of love around here, but some of his latest SLRO productions have the most superior image quality among all SLRO, at least for my weary eyes (e.g. the scenes with Aubree Valentine, Danielle Renae, Chloe Amour/Sisi Rose).

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                                    SchnuppiLilac

                                    Most companies do that, and regular purchasers of porn know about this. The point is to trick folks new to paying for their porn. My point is that they need to keep the price competitive. I think $19.99 is fair price for what you get at SLR, whether that is for one month or several. Sometimes users download many films in one month, and in other months they download next to nothing. Additionally, folks jump in and out of different accounts, so someone who may look like a new user may actually be an old-timer who just changes their credentials and e-mail every so often.

                                        [deleted] This was the statement in the OP:

                                        Main problem comes from users misusing recurring monthly sub instead of going non-recurring monthly.

                                        There is no misuse if you offer it this way. If this is actually the main problem, it will not be fixed by reducing download limits for long-term loyal customers. If you want people to pay more for 30 day access than for monthly recurring, you need to pay out the rebate in the second month or set the min. term to two months.

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                                            SchnuppiLilac There is no misuse

                                            I like this part of your response.

                                            SchnuppiLilac to pay out the rebate in the second month

                                            I'd probably stop subscribing to SLR if they did this. I'd recommend a price of $19.00, ignoring this one-month only / subscription tier, just with a reduced download limit of half of the regular content and more downloads of SLR Originals productions. That would make the most sense, since SLR doesn't have to pay royalties on their own productions and bandwidth costs would be under the subscription fee. I'd also recommend that they enhance the reliability of their servers, since more than 50% of downloads are corrupted and need to be re-downloaded. Their competition, POVR, is more reliable in this respect, and they can offer unlimited downloads since they know how to limit users to one download at a time.

                                                  [deleted] To be fair, when I still downloaded using a browser I had trouble with all VR sites, either downloads breaking up and not resumable or slow speeds. This all ended when I started using a download manager. You should try, saves you a lot of trouble.

                                                      doublevr yeah but the painful part is paying for a year right before lifetime. Low expectations but can there be anything done about that where I can just pay the difference or am I out of luck pretty much

                                                          doublevr Very reasonable. We want to make things work for everyone and have our users happy.

                                                          doublevr We can have an upgrade 50 downloads for $19.99 with no expiration for the time of active premium.

                                                          That's reasonable for you?!?! Ok then... 🤣

                                                          I can get a monthly sub on NA and download like 3000 scenes for less than 20 bucks.

                                                          And ... 🥁 ... they are much longer in the business than SLR... 💣️

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                                                                SchnuppiLilac

                                                                I use a download manager. Unfortunately Internet Download Manager (IDM) requires a separate subscription, and it's the only download manager that is effective with SLR-converted content. With IDM there are fragmentation artifacts every two to three minutes, instead of large portions of missing content (Free Download Manager) or frozen downloads that cannot be restarted (Xtreme download manager).

                                                                IDM allows users to download multiple files at once and potentially download the maximum from SLR without much hassle. POVR has a system that doesn't disconnect users based on time (you see the time-based, IP cookies SLR adds to their download links), rather they monitor users based on connection attempts and intensity (users cannot download multiple files at obce, so they can offer unlimited downloads).