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  • Should we make all the new Passthrough movies in male green suit?

Looks like there are a few options here:

1. Full Body Green Suit

Pros:

  • Very immersive in AR/PT

Cons:

  • Doesn't work well in Non-PT/Non-AR viewing (huge disatisfaction for non-PT audience, which is much larger at the moment)
  • Custom backgrounds won't look good with a full body suit.

2. No Suit

Pros:

  • Makes it bearable for Non-PT/Non-AR audience to watch
  • Works with custom backgrounds

Cons:

  • Less immersive for PT users and Non-PT users alike., both audiences will be dissatisfied.
  • Delayed release of custom background scene for Non-PT audience.
  • Alignment issues for PT users

3. AI generated PT

Pros:

  • Great for PT and Non-PT users. Assuming, the scene is shot as an SLR original. Both audiences will be satisfied.
  • Lower production cost (don't have to spend time and money on creating alpha channel and custom backgrounds)
  • PT and Non-PT scene is released at the same time (just need to release one SLR Original).
  • Provides a more customizable experience (can turn on PT for some scenes and turn it off for others).
  • Highly reuseable technology (can use the same technique for videos from other studios too).
  • SLR Developers gain AI skills.

Cons:

  • AI generated PT quality is decent but not as good as alpha channel (AI generated PT can get better over time though).
  • May use slightly more headset battery than usual (nothing to worry about though).

Final Recommendations

  • SLR should redirect its PT efforts into making AI generated PT a reality. This option provides great satisfaction to both PT and non-PT users. AI generated PT also lowers cost for SLR.
  • SLR should pause alpha channel PT production for now and replace it with SLR Originals (to see if production costs can be lowered with AI generated PT). This will also mitigate the dissatisfaction from the Non-PT audience (which is much larger than PT audience right now).

    doublevr What I wanted to say is that dual use would exclude the use of body suits. I guess you might still watch the body suit videos in non-PT if you want to see the girl but not the greatest experience.

      MickyCheese For PassThrough - Option 1 is the best.

      Option 3 is not so good for people like me who like pass through, so when you say Great for PT users, this simply isn't correct. You are just just trying to make a convincing argument for the proponents of Non-PT. This is why the drama queens have liked your post.

          theHobbit I agree, AI generated PT is not as good as alpha channel (Alpha channel is so much better in passthrough).

          The reason I mentioned AI gen PT is great for PT users is because it's not that bad and SLR is already planning to invest in the technology.

          I recommended it because it looks very promising. SLR will eventually get better at it and it solves the contention between PT and non-PT users.

          Here is the latest update from AlexSLRLabs on AI gen PT:

              MickyCheese it solves the contention between PT and non-PT users.

              There isn't a massive contention - there are a few who want SLR to focus on VR and they routinely throw their dummies out of the pram but I suspect most users don't give a monkeys which format is being used as can be seen from the number of likes the videos get regardless of whether it is pass through or not.

              I reckon the 5 users lol who are really into VR probably like looking out the location windows and bedroom decor or something along those lines. They probably get boners when they go to home department stores lol. Whereas most users are busy jerking off to the hot women in front of them.

                  theHobbit dude I get you have your opinion but don't try to act like people who disagree with you are just dumb drama queens and aren't a significant number. There are valid reasonings on both sides, that's why it's such a heated topic

                    theHobbit If there are only "a few who want SLR to focus on VR" then why are you getting so intensely butthurt about what they have to say? Every one of your posts is dripping with contempt for anyone that says something bad about PT.

                    they routinely throw their dummies out of the pram

                    You're projecting.

                        theHobbit Even if I wanted a reminder that I’m actually in my own bedroom jerking off, passthrough does not work. You cannot do any kind of camera movement as the background (your room) is fixed and the girl is not so the second you tilt the camera or she changes position, everything looks wrong.

                        In order to watch the scene properly then, I have to physically re-enact what is happening on screen. I have no interest in doing that and neither do most people or all the VR players wouldn’t have the option to move the camera.

                        The other option is to restrict the whole scene to the same laying down position so you just have cowgirl positions for the entire scene which is a huge step backwards.

                          doublevr interesting. I've been loving the full passthough releases, so whatever you do, make sure they still look great.

                          I don't care if you keep the male there and remove it with AI, or if you add realistic environments for passthough haters, just don't mess up with the clean and polished look your new PT releases have ❤️

                            theHobbit While I agree that most people will focus on the hot, naked woman in front of them, I still believe their is contention.

                            From my understanding, the contention starts when a new girl is cast in only one format:

                            • Users preferring non-PT want the scene to be an SLR Original to maximize 'immersion' in VR.
                            • Users preferring PT want the scene to be alpha channel PT to maximize 'immersion' in AR.
                            • Neutral users are happy as long as one of the formats has maximized 'immersion'.

                            While you and I might agree that most users are neutral and the future is with AR, it still doesn't change the fact that there will be more people preferring SLR Originals simply because not many people have color PT headsets at the moment. Also, most SLR customers don't mind SLR Originals because it's been around longer than PT.

                            Since AI generated PT has the potential to be as good as alpha channel, I believe it's the right choice going forward (it has potential to maximize 'immersion' in VR and AR).

                              Personally, this is another reason why I was more excited about the custom backgrounds, because with the guy visible and a custom background, my body would never interfere. Even if you remove the guys body and only leave his dick, I can imagine it will take some adjustment in real life to actually align that with your body in order for it to not seem weird or like a floating dick above you. This also doesnt even take into consideration the constant changes in positions and angles in each scene. I would not be looking forward to constantly pausing the scene at each change and physically adjust just so the floating dick makes sense.

                              I am personally not in favor of removing the guys body but I can see why some people would not like this.

                              theHobbit they routinely throw their dummies out of the pram

                              I had to Google that one lol

                              ok, I typed everything below and then thought of a question to preface all of my comments-- With the CG back grounds, are these made by shooting a PT scene in a green or gray room, and then superimposed on the CG back ground? In other words, can a PT scene be offered in both green/gray back ground AND with a CG background, or is it one or the other only? If so, then here is my preference--

                              I would like to give an opinion from a non-PT user--
                              My vote is to offer the PT scenes with a second version with CG back grounds. I have only seen one so far with Serena Hill. Are there more? My thoughts on that are, I agree with MickeyCheese that it does have potential to be a very good middle ground to give PT users scenes, and something usable for non-PT users. Even as a non PT user myself, I do believe that you should still make them for that subscriber base, fair is fair. All of us can surely name something that we want to see that may be unique to our tastes alone, and we all appreciate it when we get a scene made that satisfies our particular preference. But I do hope that you will also put in a best effort to allow these scenes to be usable for the rest, just like you are giving a best effort with AI to make all past regular VR scenes available for PT. Again to follow MickeyChese, when we get a new model that is highly anticipated debuting in PT, it would be very nice to at least have a CG version for the rest of us. My suggestion on the CG backgrounds though, please don't make them too busy and distracting. The futurist bedroom was neat and all, but it was a bit much with all sorts of colors and shapes on the walls, etc. to be using regularly. Would you be willing to make us another CG background to try out that is a little more muted and not as flashy as the futuristic bedroom? (not the blurred back ground that @doublevr mentioned, but just a slightly darker room with less flashy stuff).

                              In the absence of CG backgrounds, my vote is to use the all gray rooms. I still watch those scenes and I can deal with that, and in some instances I feel like the picture quality of the model is maybe even higher than in an everyday VR scene. I can not do the green background and suit though no matter how hard I try, it is a retina scorcher in non-PT playback and I'll have a headache well before the scene is finished.

                              I'm kind of looking forward to giving PT a proper go with the Quest 3, but currently the low res black and white Quest 2 cameras are not for me.

                              edit: ok, I clearly missed some of the points made in previous posts. In regards to floating dicks and having to reposition along with the models, yes, that would be something that would steer me away from watching the scenes.

                                Full body suit seems to work well with passthrough, although lighting all areas and masking is still not perfect. Still, it's now got to the level of being "good enough" to be compelling. Earlier attempts were interesting from a tech point of view but all the extra elements of the scene were a major distraction and reinforced the unreality. I say do it well or don't do it. It's already hard enough to achieve immersion in this format, so compromising on what is already a compromise is no good for anyone. So, well-lit chick + floating cock and balls = success, especially in positions which mimic the viewer's, which for me is seated.

                                Removing any further comments that are off-topic.

                                The topic being: "full body suit for Passthrough, yea or nay".

                                People who are against PT have never tried color pass-through with the Handy while on edibles; it's mind-blowing. I honestly don't understand the crowd that goes to PT videos just to hate. Like, dude, let the people who enjoy PT enjoy them. There are so many videos that are not PT for you to enjoy.