mnmlikereal For me, it's not really about seeing my own room as it's about looking down and consciously seeing my own body next to the actress's body.

Did you even read my post? That's what it's actually all about...

      LordCrash Either way...I think there is room for both on SLR. If someone does not want to see passthrough content, then all they have to do is hide it. I like that SLR is trying something new, but I would never want SLR to focus solely on passthrough, and I don't think that will happen anyway.

          mnmlikereal You could say that about 2D porn or even something entirely else like a non-porn drama series as well...literally about everything. Just don't watch it if you don't like it, you know...

          Fact is that VR and AR are not the same thing and people don't necessarily need to be happy that their money is used for something that they haven't subscribed for. There are people who prefer one of those and there are people who enjoy both but that doesn't mean that it should be on the same page. I also watch a lot of 2D porn and I don't want or expect SLR to provide me with 2D porn either. There are other sites for that.

            LordCrash VR is about roleplaying though. In VR I can be somebody else. Some attractive guy with abs and a big dick fucking beautiful girls in exotic places and luxury homes. I can be their teacher, their masseuse, their step-dad, their coach, their driving inspector, their pizza guy. I could be white, black or everything in between. Hell, I could be even a gir. That's the core fascination of VR

            Amen to all of that.

              mnmlikereal I am loving this passthrough stuff

              I am hating this passthrough stuff. It is as far from immersive as anything could be. Why? Because the hardware isn’t ready for it. So essentially these are beta testing scenes while SLR gets ready for whatever generation of affordable headset can actually play them in a manner that convinces us she’s really there. The tech is so far from that right now, yet this crap continues to pollute the stream.

              I didn’t agree to pay SLR to be a beta tester. These scenes do not belong in the release schedule. They should be extras up in the sandbox where interested parties can play with them all they want and provide feedback to further the ongoing development.

              I also resent like hell that anticipated talent we can’t find anywhere else get put into these tests and experiments. WTF is that about? It’s happened twice now 😡

                  LordCrash I think it's more about selling the illusion that this is something that's happening to you and not a video your watching. Getting your own body and room helps to sell that.

                      fenderwq the entire premise of VR is selling the illusion that something is happening to you. That’s why they call it immersion. And immersion this garbage is not.

                      fenderwq Getting your own body and room helps to sell that.

                      when your own body doesn’t align to what is in front of you, and your room is a black and white grainy contrast to the woman in front of you that is in color but also shrouded in a neon green halo with neon green spilling in between her hair and fingers, no, sorry that does not sell immersion.
                      🤦‍♀️ 🤦‍♂️ 🤦

                            justsomedude101 quotes for the pictures above:

                            1. “How fucking ridiculous is it that I’m sucking this semi-soft dick protruding from a green blanket? they’re selling this shit as a paid porn release? <snort>”

                            2. “Okay, I can’t hold it in any longer. This is the single dumbest thing I’ve ever been paid to do in front of a camera!! 😂🤣”

                              argyle43 Well I have a Pico 4 so it's color and acceptable. I also think it is still pretty gimmicky but there is definitely a future in this passthrough thing imo.
                              Also, saying that vr is already immersive just doesn't make sense. Wouldn't it be more immersive if you could feel, smell or touch the girl? Similarly having your own body and room is simply a good way to trick your brain. If this was perfect I think you wouldn't even argue with this.
                              Now am I all for passthrough? Not really, I usually watch content with my 8kx. But hey, variety is the spice of life and I love the prospect of pushing VR into next levels of immersion.

                                  fenderwq well good luck to you and enjoy it. I’ll stick to revisiting truly immersive scenes like these…

                                  …and I’ll hope like hell that this studio one day returns to its senses and realizes that releasing killer scenes like these on a regular basis and not as the occasional exception to a steady slog of cheap filler and experimentation was the thing that got them to number one. One can only hope.

                                      argyle43 and I’ll hope like hell that this studio one day returns to its senses and realizes that releasing killer scenes like these on a regular basis and not as the occasional exception to a steady slog of cheap filler and experimentation was the thing that got them to number one. One can only hope.

                                      legendary scene ever.

                                        fenderwq Did you actually read my post or only the first senence?

                                        Surely doesn't sound that way...

                                        I know that AR and passthrough are about you being real you in the scene. That's what I actually explained in my post. That's the whole issue indeed since I don't necessarily desire to be real me in a porn scene, I want to be somebody else. But not watching somebody else, BE somebody else. You know, like role-playing, you get into a role, another character, an alter ego. That's what VR is all about for me and that's the difference to AR which does everything to convince you that stuff happens in your real world to yourself as your real self while VR is about fantasies that could happen to whomever you'd wanna be in a fantasy world in which everything is possible...

                                            fenderwq But hey, variety is the spice of life and I love the prospect of pushing VR into next levels of immersion.

                                            I don't know how often it needs to be repeated for everyone to finally understand but passthrough isn't an evolution of VR, it's AR/MR and therefore something entirely else.

                                            Passthrough doesn't push VR into anything, it's not even VR in the first place...

                                                LordCrash yup.
                                                Virtual (completely other) Reality
                                                Augmented (modified current) Reality

                                                I’ll take well-produced former every time. It’s what we were getting here a year ago. Lots of it. Now it’s this larger quantity of lesser. I really hope we revert. Like I said above, that’s the stuff that made this Site of the Year. I seriously doubt what we’ve seen the last few months will get SLR there again.

                                                I’ve got a lifetime sub, so I’m stuck with where things go regardless — all I can do at this point is express my disdain. If I were on an annual or monthly, I’d seriously be reconsidering ending my subscription right now. I wonder how membership looks in six months if things continue this way.

                                                    argyle43 Well, I do agree that the passthrough stuff is a bit gimmicky right now. The scale is still not right. I applaud SLR for trying something different.