AI Scripts updates and requests

siarhei

fenderwq It is pleasure getting feedback from technical guy) We actually train our models on manually created scripts.
Keep in touch.

fenderwq

siarhei I've checked out the new script for a bit (mostly the faster parts) and it is definitely an improvement. Having said that a lot of my feedback from my previous post still remains in various degrees (the one with the timestamps).

Some additional notes:

23:46 - The script is better here but I think still quite a lot more limited compared to a manual scripts (it should be clear purple in the heatmap here). The movement is also way to high up (like in "blowjob position") and since she is on top of him slamming into him it should be at the bottom (is this due to the limiter not knowing the position? Btw, I was thinking it might be a cool idea to have a refiner AI that does a second pass to determine things like if the script should be limited to the bottom or top and maybe smooth out the motion on fast parts intelligently / based on the scene).
24:25 - Still too little movement but definitely better
38:31 - Some of the obstructed parts still have very little or no movement

Movement in the fast parts is also pretty erratic, for instance:

fenderwq

siarhei Thanks, will check out the script.

Seems you already have a nice automated test setup. However in this case I was referring more to the averages of a segment. If you have a movie with various segments of a somewhat consistent action / context (like a certain position and intensity) you can compare aggregated metrics for these parts of the movie. Things like: total strokes, average stroke range, average stroke position and stroke variability. I noticed big overall differences in these metrics between AI scripts and human made scripts and the difference varies greatly by position and intensity (that's why I pointed out the suggestion).

Now, I've already pointed out some of the specifics (like the overall intensity of mostly fast parts, some of the "perspective" issues and the bottom range issue) but another important one is the stroke variability during fast parts. I first noticed this when trying out the script for long night. It felt all over the place in the fast parts and when you analyze the script it becomes pretty obvious why. I haven't compared this in detail (as in strokes per minute etc.) but it wouldn't surprise me if it is this high variability and not the actual speed that made these parts uncomfortable. I just can't imagine that such an irregular pattern could feel good at high speeds.

AI generated fast part (long night)

For comparison: a fast part of a manual script (screwing out of school)

Anyways, I think it's these kind of things an automated test like I described (in combination with comparing the heatmaps) could catch early on and will allow you to better measure progress on between iterations. But I will shut up about it now 🙂

Good luck with the project!I

rerun119

fenderwq The graft of the AI script is exactly how it feels. It's not smooth, it's big stroke, little stroke, big stroke, little stroke. It doesn't feel natural.

rerun119

Rakly3 I do want to mention that we can not use the scripts hand made by scripters just like that, to train the AI. I don't think it's ethical and may be legally questionable.

I figured that is how you were teaching the AI with human scripts. Isn't that how AI learning works?
If you don't use human scripts as a teacher then how does the AI learn?

Rakly3

rerun119 I can't answer that due to confidentiality.

fenderwq

rerun119 Yeah, the fast parts definitely are, I think the slow/medium parts are often good though.

rerun119

fenderwq How are they training the AI if they don't use human scripts? Isn't that how AI learning works?

Kieshi

Aaaand a new update has arrived! Here are new scripted scenes:

We appreciate all the feedback you guys are giving, it helps a lot with the development. Hopefully, you can see the improvement.

Also @Rakly3, care to share your thoughts on the scripts?

Rakly3

Kieshi For objectivity reasons, not at this time.

fenderwq

Kieshi Nice work, these scripts are definitely improving. I watched VirtualRealPorn House from start to finish and overall the intensity seems much better. The biggest remaining issue is the irregularity in faster parts. This seems to have improved but still needs work (it can be pretty annoying now). There is also still some problem parts that the AI struggles with mostly due to obstruction or not detecting movement from things like jiggling.

Some notes:
13:18 & 14:03: irregular fast movement which should be smooth (didn't make a note of the intensity)
for example 14:03

18:21 & 19:30 & 28:24 & 30:37: irregular fast movement which should be smooth, the intensity seems pretty good though
for example 28:24

22:24: blowjob while holding the base. Position of movement is at the bottom but should be at top, later it corrects itself
33:45: One of the examples of jiggling not getting detected

39.12: This part felt all over the place

rafidegustator

Kieshi new batch of AI scripts is in new tab instead AI scripts tab

Qwertyqwerty1234

@Rakly3 just curious if the previously released scripts will be updated with the new AI programming as it improves? Will it only be at a later time? Or will the new programming be added to these scenes continously as new iterations of the AI come out? There are some great scenes that have the AI scripting and I would love to see the improvements added to them as the machine learning gets better.

Rakly3

Qwertyqwerty1234 They will eventually be updated, but I don't make this decision. Nor am I currently aware of a timeframe. I myself don't find out which scenes have been AI scripted until after it's done.

rerun119

Qwertyqwerty1234 I'm guessing after they have a couple of months worth of AI scripts that they will never upgrade them after that.

Here is why. Some quick math.
Double said that they can make an AI script in around 20 minutes a scene. So that really means it probably takes a little longer than that but either way we will say 20 minutes. They also said they are going to script all SLR scenes.
So that means 3 scripts an hour. 24 hours a day x 3 = 72 scripts a day.
There are roughly 20,000 scenes / by 72 a day = 278 days complete plus all the added scenes in that 278 days.

So maybe after a year or so they can start over with reloading the scenes with better scripts.

After I did the math I am glad that they ignored my request after asking for request. The longer the wait the better. All the really good scripted scenes are going to be the ones that nobody requested.

Kieshi

rafidegustator could you elaborate? I can see all new scripts in AI scripts tab

Will65

I mentioned this another thread, but it is worth repeating: How about a button to filter out AI scripts? You gave us a toggle to see only AI scripts and filter out human ones, but I'm pretty sure that a majority would like to be able to filter out the AI scripts and only see human ones. A few (angry) commenters have said so explicitly.

rerun119

Will65 I doubt they are going to give us that option. We have to manually click on every scene to see. I'm guessing they want to keep it that way so people play them without knowing to get that extra money. Otherwise they wouldn't charge the same amount for AI as a human script.

Kieshi

rerun119 there will be an icon released soon, that will help you distinguish manual scripts from AI

Sperson

rerun119 your math assumes they have one computer at SLR running the generation, while not taking into account horizontal scaling and parallel processing.

Let’s say there are 2 machines running generation. 139 days
5 machines 55 days
10 machines 28 days
100 machines 3 days

I’m not saying you’re wrong, or that I’m right. I’m simply saying that there is a lot of assumptions on these threads and also a lot of unknown variables.

doublevr

Sperson the guy is known for false assumptions on almost everything👌

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