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BungaBunga Expecting people to support you directly because they are fans is the problem; sure, some will do that, it's what OF is for, but most people may enjoy a particular performer's content but not be fooled into thinking they can somehow have a real, direct relationship with them. That's a way in which OF, and social media more generally, exploits people. The 'if you liked me, you'd support me directly' thing is honestly a little grubby IMHO

This, exactly. I find that most OF models have a very exploitive attitude about their "fans" and their own value as a one-person show.

    Marge1994

    onlyfans is pretty regulated

    but the girls HAVE more control of their finances...a few are grinding away at 20-35k a month. they can bank content that will be distributed later and effectively take as many vacations/breaks as they need to...and still get paid

    not sure their concern is matching technical output quality of large companies, but with large companies, means they are probably making less.

    most that i know? have 5 to 40k in equipment...so quality can be good.

    unfortunately, see a lot of iphone clips...they are what they are. i try and get them to at least film it so it's full screen

    lotta FREE ofan accts that are worth it....sometimes get a few pics a month that are just frigging wows

    i hate most of the shit ever made professionally...they don't give a shit what i like. so customs possibilities are fun...till they start asking for 100bucks a minute 🙂 at worst try and get them to 10bucks....that can be hard to do, but part of the fun of it all

    my shit is all about super super close up...goose bumbs are a must.

        BUT onlyfans is a shit company in general and shouldn't be trusted with much money....they have deleted a shit ton of locked content....which is a big no no in this game. thousands of bucks...they don't give a shit.

        still need to use them for the communications aspects...if content is meaningful, get them to deliver it differently or on another service that treats it as sacrosanct...like it is. lots of money goes into it before getting to the actual payment for the content...that's that whole negotiation process. so it adds up

        sometimes good ideas...shooting angles and so forth come from watching girls/couples on the site or sites like that

        i take note of all that i can...sometimes it's just 10seconds of something that makes the lil peen twitch...just seeing the potential

        had one just today, out of the blue, have such a clip. so much potential to be huge., but kinda unreachable. no matter how much you throw at them. they have their business plan and you either fall within it to throw money at them or not...they don't really care.

        some do

        Marge1994
        The problem isn't that the girls are selling their own content instead of shooting for big companies. The porblem is that in 99% of the cases the self-made content isn't only extremely costly but also simply pretty bad. There are no production values to these scenes, no good angles, no good settings, no good lighting, no nothing. They just suck. And you're supposed to pay like 30 bucks minimum for a 20 minutes amateur scenes? Well, no, thanks.

        Pornstars like Aidra apparently don't understand that I'm not here for supporting anybody, I'm here for wanking one off. I'd like to do it while watching one of Aidra's scenes because she's a hottie but there are a lot of other hotties out there that I can wank to for like 30 bucks a month instead of 30 bucks a scene. That's the simply truth. If they can find guys who are willing to pay big money to watch crappy scenes with only them good for these girls. But they shouldn't blame porn viewers who are not willing to do that.

          OF is fishy concept to begin with. Most people subscribe to certain pornstars because they think that the subscription will give them access to actual sexy content which is almost never the case though. With a basic subscription for like 10 to 30 bucks a month you only get access to some pics etc. You want to watch sexy videos? Well, you have to pay extra for every single one of them. But they don't really tell you much about these scenes anyway. You expect preview pics etc? No way, just give them 30 bucks for a 10 minutes amateur clip. No money back of course.

          It's incredibly how exploitive and manipulative OF and most pornstars on it are. It's indeed a business for them and they don't give a fuck about you - the loyal fan - at all. I was subscribed to quite a few bigger and smaller stars and it's almost the same everywhere. That's why I left OF alltogether. It's just not worth it. You really don't get much for your money. Disciples of Desire was probably the only noticable exception, but they're actually a production company and not a single pornstar or "content creator".

            Marge1994 I like how ThePointyEnd refered to it as "Parasocial relationships".

            There is an extensive psychologial literature on parasocial relationships, dating back to the 1950s and the advent of television as mass communication.

            Mass Communication and Parasocial Interaction: Observations on Intimacy at a Distance (1956)

            They are generally defined as one-sided relationships, where one person extends emotional energy, interest and time, and the other party, the persona, is completely unaware of the other's existence. Pretty much describes OnlyFans and social media "influencers", eh? Except that in the age of television and movies, parasocial relations didn't get too out of hand for most people. Today, though - just like so very much of the internet - this psychological vulnerability is deliberately exploited to manipulate emotions, create the illusion of intimacy, and separate you from your money.

                When I first opened this thread, I was convinced that I didn't need to subscribe to anyone on OnlyFans, and I'm still trying to convince myself otherwise, and find something worth subscribing for. When it comes to VR, sooner or later, fan sites content creators gonna consider filming some of those, but I believe that the best we can get from them is something similar to this studio 'AsiansexdiaryVR' (kudos to that studio, still at least getting the most rare and uncommon Asian girls ever)

                petermc Jynx Maze started a page so she could put up crazy content that she liked to do but couldn’t do on mainstream sites. She put up one scene where she was blowing Mike Adriano until throwing up a ton of solid chunky puke all over him. He then fucked her ass until she shit on his dick and she then put the dirty dick straight in her mouth.

                Yeah man, that is a great description of that scene. I almost pictured the whole thing. It kinda reminded me of the 'Two Girls One Cup' movie. However, there are companies out there that produce this specific category of 'Scat porn'. Btw, when I said 'incest porn' before, I wasn't being judgy or saying that they shouldn't produce such content. I'm just not paying for an OF subscription for that specific reason because there are companies that specialize in this category as well.

                The whole idea is more about exclusivity. So if you want to see Jynx Maze specifically doing that, you can go to her page. I've also seen girls doing exclusive first DP scene or other stuff like anal defloration and making it exclusive. But, we can still find defloration content on other sites, unless we're looking for a specific name. Like I said before, exclusive content, whether on OnlyFans or other companies, can be easily leaked here and there. It's just a matter of time, and DMCA can't go behind all those leakers because they keep coming.

                spanker i hate most of the shit ever made professionally...they don't give a shit what i like. so customs possibilities are fun...till they start asking for 100bucks a minute

                It's interesting how different people have their own unique preferences. For some, professionally made content is what they enjoy the most, while for others, the personalized touch of a custom video is what they find most appealing. Personally, I can see the appeal of both, but ultimately, I tend to lean towards professionally made content.

                    LordCrash OF is fishy concept to begin with. Most people subscribe to certain pornstars because they think that the subscription will give them access to actual sexy content which is almost never the case though. With a basic subscription for like 10 to 30 bucks a month you only get access to some pics etc. You want to watch sexy videos? Well, you have to pay extra for every single one of them.

                    Wow, I had no idea that subscribing to OnlyFans only gives you access to a limited amount of content. It's important to be aware of these hidden costs and understand what you're paying for before subscribing. That is one more incovient.

                    Hunky-Dory Losing Dakota Tyler to onlyfans was heartbreaking, 100% the best newcomer in years.

                    I believe that Dakota is following one of the most genius strategies in business, which is the law of supply and demand. When compared to Lily Chey AKA Guerlain, who I find to be very close in terms of beauty and body shape, Lily made it clear from the beginning that she only does erotic nudes and solos, unlike Dakota who has a wider range of content and has already shot scenes with companies. Don't worry, I believe that sooner or later, Dakota will likely return, and when she does, her rates will be 10 or even more times higher than the highest rates currently being offered. Companies will obviously want to work with her since she is the most requested girl, and the first company to release her first scene upon her return will gain hundreds, if not thousands, of new subscribers on the first day. Unless she gets married to some Elon Musk and stops porn for good lol

                    Will65 There is an extensive psychologial literature on parasocial relationships, dating back to the 1950s and the advent of television as mass communication....

                    Damn! I felt like that was pretty accurate. It is important to be aware of this vulnerability and to approach these interactions with caution, so as not to fall victim to emotional manipulation or financial exploitation. I guess I'm lucky that my own relationship with pornstars ends when the scene is over or when I take off my headset.

                            Marge1994 Dakota

                            There must have something happened around Dakota and Theodora Day... They were actual roomies and doing a lot of stuff together, both with Motleys, still in early 2023. Then, from one day to the other, both pretty much disappeared at the same time from the porn industry with no explanation whatsoever. They're both not at Motleys anymore and neither of them has shot any porn scene since mid January. So that's not just Dakota who decided to leave the biz, it was both Dakota and her roomie Theodora...

                            So I wouldn't bet on Dakota coming back to mainstream porn anytime soon.

                                Although I support these sex workers being their own boss and making money on their own time without any pressure there are a lot of down sides. Sure the girls are now free from exploitation but now they are exploiting single 20-something virgins who don't know what to do with their money but crave female interactions, The same guys who probably donate to streamer girls upwards of $100 just to be noticed by them, heck there was even a meme about a dude who gave an OF model 10000 just to get a hug from her.

                                We're all pervs but some of these guys don't know any better and would subscribe $25 per month on top of $30 pay per view videos that are 10 mins long. Those are just unacceptable. Do those young pervs deserve it? They'll probably learn their lessons once they maxed out their credits but sometimes it is an addiction.

                                Imagine if Robert Downey Jr, Chris evans and some of the other avengers cast made an amateur college budget version of avengers and they charge you $30 for every 1hour of the film but there aren't even any special effects. This is what some already famous pornstars are doing, they stop making professional ones and hop on OF and release $20 5 min videos. The sad part is it will probably keep going on like this cause there are a lot of guys on OF who are willing to pay.

                                  it's very hard to semi direct from 5000 miles away....that's why i start them out with super easy stuff and slowly expand it

                                  even with simple examples they fuck it up...mostly the more experienced ones do...they want to add to it and make it the way they want and that is usually just crap they have been doing for years, verse learn a new way of things

                                  some great FREE ofan pages....even for the occasional great pic....sometimes you get sucked in, but quickly realize they have managers running the show.

                                  the more you see...the more ideas come into play, and possible samples to send for a camera angle and closeness...there is ZERO chance to explain it all with words only. if i can get them building on one another...that would be perfect

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                                  Marge1994 LordCrash I felt lazy and didn't watch their two-hour podcast on YouTube, so I'm not sure if they talked about their careers. However, Dakota did confirm that she won't be shooting with companies anymore, but I'm not sure about Theodora. Interestingly, Kyler Quinn also also dropped out of the industry around the same time and when she was asked asked about why she left on Twitch, she became emotional and didn't want to talk about it.

                                  Leah Gotti also left the industry a few years ago due to the abuses she faced, as she said, but I recently found out that she's back shooting lesbian scenes for starters. So I'll hold onto hope that they might all come back some day.

                                        [deleted] watch their two-hour podcast

                                        Someone watching this would be a good example of a parasocial relationship gone a bit too far lol

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                                            Will65 Parasocial relationship? Well, yeah, kinda, but I don't think it's taken too far. I follow my favorite Pornstars on social media and watch their podcasts or even their casting couch stuff on occasions. I find that it helps build up some temporary emotions that enhance my immersion watching scenes. (PS: I'm not adding this as an argument to reasons to buy OF subscription, cuz I'll never do that myself)

                                            I discovered this about a year ago when I realized that I could barely last 10-20 minutes when I watch newcomers whom I'm seeing for the first time which represents a Hookup or one One-night stand experience, but when I watch those whom I have been following or have known for a while, I can finish the whole scene with 3 to 4 or even 5 rounds lasting 40 up to 90min, and getting a similar experience to PSE or GFE. I do this because directors suck or probably don't care about making solid intro stories, so I make my own imaginary story. Sometimes seeing a post on Instagram or Twitter can even help me choose my next scene. So, I prefer to call it a temporary relationship.

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