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  • Okay folks, this is serious - No Alcohol, No drugs, No Nonconsensual

to think outside the box a bit

maybe DELINK the credit card processing option for a month...see what it looks like. see if people will get some BTC to make the purchase.

it's possible you find out that it's not as bad as you think...and might become something better

possible it's a disaster and signups go down over 50 percent, but i would also deem that to be a timing issue mostly while people figure shit out...NOT a complete NO/NEVER signing up

it's NOT like it's a dime a dozen site. if you are into porn and just got a new headset, you probably NEED to be joining this site...i've joined some others...they are good for about a month per year.

    Accept the top cryptocurrencies/stablecoins (BTC, LTC, ETH, BNB, USDT, DOGE)

    Provide a guide how people can setup an account with a top centralized exchange (Binance, Coinbase, Kucoin) to acquire one or more of the currencies above. It really isn’t that hard.

    Provide a guide how people can pay with crypto. It also isn’t that hard.

    Lead the way for porn services to reducing their dependence on MC and other corporations that are long overdue for some much needed disruption.

      spanker Turning off CC and only taking crypto would see signups drop more like 90% if one is lucky. There are some viable alternative methods outside of traditional CC processing, but none on their own match the convenience of directly paying via CC on the site's join form. And again, the big elephant is vanilla content sells.

        I've noticed a few scenes I had bookmarked got removed for this reason which is ridiculous. As I mentioned in another thread makes sense if the scene implies someone is being drugged or drunk and taken advantage of, but to remove every scene for the mere presence of alcohol is a little much. It's a porno! They can show alcohol and drugs in sexual situations along with gruesome violence on cable tv but in porn it's a no-go? Not following the logic there. Plus, are there not protocols porn companies have to follow like any porn or non-porn studio that keeps workers and staff safe and legal? Wouldn't that allow for the possibility of police involvement if such a situation presented itself? Porn, as basic as it is, is like any other "scripted" entertainment so why would this apply to porn only and not HBO or Netflix Originals? Cause besides penetration I've seen some pretty graphic stuff there and pretty much on every other streaming platfiorm. Hollywood didn't ban sex or rape scenes after the whole Weinstein ordeal. I hate to say it but if i see many more of my bookmarked scenes disappear i might cancel and look elsewhere, seems like all the other similar sites still have the scenes up i noticed removed from slr

        give the libbies more power with the new FED COIN...so they can push their ESG and track us more

        spanker 50% drop off? And the rest! No way I’m getting involved in all that crypto bullshit and I guarantee you hardly anyone else is. SLR isn’t the only game in town either. There are other big sites now with most of the same third party studios plus their own stuff. Would be insane of them to go crypto only, especially when most people here want very vanilla content anyway so they can easily stay within CC compliance and only piss a relatively small amount of people off.

        Porn does need to find a way to get out from under the thumb of credit cards though but it ain’t crypto, not yet anyway. I know Clips4Sale used to (they may still do) have a pre-payment card option but that fits their business model as they don’t rely on repeat monthly subscriptions. For sites like SLR you’d be relying on people remembering to top up their card and that’s not the guaranteed money they’re after. There must be a solution somewhere for some kind of universal buffer between credit cards and all porn sites so that credit card companies aren’t worried about direct transactions on illegal content. I just don’t know what it is.

        Could porn set up their own porn bank and self operating credit card nothing to do with Visa/MC. Is that doable? Would it even work?

          relax tiger

          BTW, getting involved in crypto bullshit is just time and effort to move money...nobody is saying hold and invest it

          BUT the KEY response is most people like vanilla content...SO, pretty much is what it is at that point

          i have joined a few other sites that aggregate content...as of last year? they were crap in comparison, and few others are worth ONE MONTH a year at best.

          I PERSONALLY am good with a lot vanilla content if they would SHOOT it better...more thought out...cater to more people with EASE. shoot the shit closer. every single clip i watch...i cringe at the simple missed opportunities for a 30 second spot there...WHICH would make the clip something i might watch 50 times VS once

          if i don't see goosebumps...it's virtually just 2d stuff with a 5 second trick or two

          I'll preface this by saying that it's totally fine if everyone wants to continue the discussion around this topic, since it's obviously one that there is a lot of passion behind.

          But while floating the idea that a porn company (or virtually any online company) could/should/would shift away from major credit cards and move to crypto-only payments is a fun thought experiment, and maybe in another decade the outlook might look different - right now it would be an immediate death sentence, and I hope everyone understands that. To say that the loss of income/revenue would be "profound" would be an understatement, and no amount of guides/manuals/walkthroughs to help new users understand and set up crypto payments would ever come even remotely close to recuperating that loss.

          So if we're weighing the pros and cons of a site shifting to crypto-only payments, with the "pros" being a porn site can now have the freedom to include things like fake alcohol/drugs/non-consensual content in their scenes and the "cons" being that porn site immediately loses 99% of income, hopefully the obvious choice is pretty clear.

          we get it...i was just doing a little responding. we read the answer just above 🙂

          but who is driving this...is very clear.

          seems like the one i was responding to vanished...was responding to the site telling us it was a death sentence

          it was the one that SAID wouldn't touch crypto

          argyle43 unless we proceed with our own crypto implementation we are going to be a subject for the same rules like we have with other financial institutions.

              most people don’t understand crypto and the freedom it does and will bring. that’s fine. remain dinosaurs.

              the world is changing though.

              doublevr I really don’t follow your logic here. I buy some LiteCoin (LTC) on KuCoin. I transfer it to my Ledger cold wallet. I buy things from any merchant that accepts it. There is no financial intermediary to exert their conditions and censorship, period.

              Yes @justsomedude101 I certainly understand that the volume of CC payment processing vs. what I’ve just described doesn’t make this financially viable as a wholesale change, but if service providers that don’t want to be beholden to these financial behemoth bullies don’t begin implementing these changes and warming the masses to the option then nothing will ever change for the better. Just as simple as that.

              SLR is in a good position to lead on this. I think they should.

                  argyle43 SLR is in a good position to lead on this. I think they should.

                  Maybe they could finally invest in some innovation that has actually a point...

                      argyle43 SLR is in a good position to lead on this. I think they should.

                      LordCrash Maybe they could finally invest in some innovation that has actually a point...

                      Your input is appreciated, but in general we'll usually choose to stay in business rather that try to take some moral high ground and immediately lose virtually all of our income. Your time would be better spent taking this argument to Amazon/Walmart/whatever companies are relevant for where you live, who do millions of times more business than we do, have active lobbyists, etc.

                      Until the point in time comes where we're losing 99% of potential customers because they are so infuriated at our inability to host certain types of content, there is zero reason to willingly choose to give up 98% of revenue. I trust that neither of you (nor anyone else) would choose to give up 99% of your paycheck if it meant "sticking it" to credit card companies.

                      @LordCrash I deleted one of your comments - it was weirdly hostile. Please stop that.

                            walmart, amazon, etc., all sell alcohol, and a good portion of print/media advertisements are centered around alcohol and sex. but oh hell no, not in porno! if these credit card companies are so morally pure, why are they not banning alcohol sales and displays at these establishments as well?

                            do the major porn companies like brazzers, bangbors, czechvr, realjam, etc. use the same credit card billing system on their exclusive sites? and are they being held to the same standard of removing past content featuring alcohol and prohibited from making future content featuring alcohol? . i get it there are a lot of other videos on here besides the ones removed, and slr is an awesome site especially with the deo compatibility, but i am a paying customer and a lot of videos i had bookmarked just flat out disappeared that i still see on other sites. so this is just a random and hard one to comprehend and to figure out what the point of this is and who it applies to.

                              justsomedude101 @LordCrash I deleted one of your comments - it was weirdly hostile. Please stop that.

                              So how about deleting the post I was answering to as well? THAT one was weirdly hostile and my post was only a reaction to it.

                                  justsomedude101 Your time would be better spent taking this argument to Amazon/Walmart/whatever companies are relevant for where you live, who do millions of times more business than we do, have active lobbyists, etc.

                                  Walmart and Amazon produce porn? I never knew...

                                      Even ignoring the logistical nightmare and complete collapse of the business model, crypto is justifiably associated with a lot of really scammy and illegal shit.

                                      People using crypto to buy porn on the internet has some very very bad associations tied to it and would just invite more federal intervention. It would be exchanging one problem for another.

                                      LordCrash So how about deleting the post I was answering to as well? THAT one was weirdly hostile and my post was only a reaction to it.

                                      Didn't see it, don't care - no one else's behavior excuses your own. You can always flag it if this comes up again for review.

                                      And I'm done for the time being as far as discussing the pragmatism of shifting to a crypto-only payment model. If anyone is particularly passionate about it, they could always consider quitting their job, giving up virtually all of their income, and lobbying full time against the credit card monopolies, since that's essentially what it's being suggested we do. And while it's a beautiful "David vs Goliath" type daydream, it's incredibly unrealistic. Maybe some day it won't be, but for now - it really, really is.