Production & Post-production Feedback

justsomedude101

alexnash highkiller it’s hard to answer that response, there are so many wrongs in there lol 😆
It’s like watching the scene from the Jupiter - well… “Hello earth” 🌍
who knows - knows 🌟🙏🏻

alexnash highkiller Defiantly this thread has a different purpose, so yes, next time take it to a different thread if you ever decide to come back and politely talk about this.
Just one of the notes for you though: most of the scenes you are talking about not even mine, do a proper research before posting. Peace ☮️

Will65 alexnash This type of reply is exactly why people passionate about VR porn in general and the overall success of SLR specifically eventually just give up and accept your seemingly inevitable slide towards mediocrity. The poster was called out for details, and after he took the time to type out a thousand word post full of details, he got a snarky clap back. And the mods wonder why the posters can become uncivil? Perhaps the scenes weren't yours - but you work for SLR, right? You could forward them somewhere, right? You could thank the person for their time and feedback, and say that you'll give it some thought on your own productions, right? I could keep generating ways that you could have answered that constructively, but you already know.

So much wrong there, indeed.

LordCrash Thanks for ruining another fun thread with your negative energy, guys... 🤦

@justsomedude101 Could you please take action and put these posts in a more fitting space?

rerun119 Will65 Maybe @alexnash could have said some of the things you mentioned but he is the only director on here that takes the time to answer anybody about production. I don't think he should be knocked for writing back to people. The directors of most of those scenes say nothing on here, only Nash does. So people get mad it him for all of SLR lighting issues. I don't think that is fair.

Fapmaster17

Let's collect some constructive feedback! 😊

About some of the scenes that were shot in difficult lighting conditions (e.g. direct, bright sunlight) and have overexposed skin:
If the production team knows the scene might be a challenge, perhaps it's worth to try and shoot in log-format and color-grade the video in post-production. The log-format saves a much higher dynamic range and allows for some exposure mistake to be fixed later on.

Example:

Xxlayna Marie's Intimate Experience: The setting is very cool, but her skin is weirdly exposed and "glowing". Look at the difference in exposure of the thumbnail taken by a camera vs. the actual video.
Adria Rae's Private Lesson: Don't record at night if there is not enough lighting available.

If that seems like overkill and too expensive to do, I would advice to change the setup of the scene to simply avoid any harsh lighting conditions. Better to have a less exciting setup than an overexposed performer.

alexnash

Thank you @justsomedude101 for creating a separate thread for this!

Guys, as I have mentioned many times before - any feedback is appreciated and I value it. Just please if you take time to white a thousand words essay and break down each scene into frames please take 5 minutes to learn who you need to direct this feedback for. I only can answer for myself and I don't have any authorization to answer for other producers and directors. Now you can easy search for a particular scene and connect it to a specific producer by looking into tags: https://www.sexlikereal.com/tags/alex-nash-vr

The SLR site doesn't allow me to make screen shots and I don't want to rewrite this and waste more of my time gathering evidence for you.

As I know you can take screenshots from SLR website or what do you mean? But I got it and I do have a lot of things to take care too beside the forum.

Here are the examples that i noticed:

Grey Clouds crystal shop - overexposed during cowgirl

Nuru Oil treatment with Lilly Bell - overexposed during intro and during cowgirl

i don't usually do this... - overexposed all the time

screwing out of school project - very bright ray of light is illuminating left side of Emma (but that is ok. Whole set looks good because of that). Problem starts when whe jump from dark intro, to bright left side illuminated standing missionary and back do the dark room. Also Face of Emma was too high during missionary and it was difficult to adjust it in setting. Which is frustrating for the longest time you guys were known for your perfect missionary shots. Now it is a game of chance.

Private Lesson - the part by the piano looked like an early Darkroomvr production. Above the head cold light overexposing Adria and casting shadows on her. And then we transition to a dungeon dark room where Adria looked like she was illuminated by phone camera flash light. Making her not lit enough and yet still partialy overexposed. She literally looked like someone was pointing a weak flashlight at her.

Your body wellness - overexposed during missionary

I can't answer for all of those scenes.

Sugar baby sweet talk - overexposed

GFE scarlett treat - as it was already shown with screenshots massively overexposed for the whole duration of the first part. Then the bedroom part was ok but again we experience a drastic change in color. Starting in white cold lighting of the living room and going to warm almost too orange light of the bedroom.

Raw Taboo: unusual trio - the same mistakes as in GFE Scarlett and yet pushed a little further to be even worse. Dark room and very overposed girls in the first part shot in the living room and again we change the setting to bedroom and with it you jump from one end of light scale to another. Living room being overexposed pale white and bedroom being orange. Neither looking natural.

All those above are mine and I am already aware of the issues and taking care of it from my side, I think I've mentioned it few times already in other threads. But again I really do appreciate taking time to point on those issues. Sorry guys I am too just don't have a lot of time spending on forum and going into each post in details and many times I just skim through them, sometime maybe missing some points and details. I leave to come back to it later. I do take it deeply serious but I guess I expect more of fan interaction vibes, I don't expect "customer service responsibilities' vibes. I am here to interact and I wish everybody to have a good time and have fun.
I am here always with the best intentions and expect the same from you. Thank you for understanding guys!

spacepirate

alexnash you dont need to reply to every post 🙂 people around here like typing essays that no one is actually reading.

highkiller

alexnash
Thank you for your response. I spoke about most of the things that bother me in recent releases. I know that I was writing directly with you but it wasn't focused on you. As rerun119 said in his response copied here by justsomedude101 not many directors are as involved in the forum and because of that (unjustifiably) i kinda vented to you as you somehow represent the production community in my mind.

I am glad that there are now producers mentioned in the tags of the video. I would be glad to sort the scenes I talked about by production team to make it easier on you but not all of them were mentioned in the credits of the trailer. Now it is a lot easier. And to be completely honest I wasn't entirely sure that you don't have anything to say about the work of other production teams. I imagined you at this point as a kinda production supervisor of the whole SLR. But i was mistaken.

Thank you again @alexnash for taking your time to make this in depth response to my post. It really cleared some things for me.
And sorry for making a messy thousand words essay.

alexnash As I know you can take screenshots from SLR website or what do you mean?

It was my mistake. I didn't know that chrome app is blocking making screenshots in Incognito mode. Some sites block the possibility of making screenshots and I automatically thought that this is the case here. I was wrong. After disabling this block by chrome I can now make screenshots on SLR website.

@justsomedude101 thank you for making this thread and copying all of the posts regarding this topic.

alexnash

@Will65 as I noticed before you mentioned few times about scripting certain scenes.
In case you haven't seen those:

https://forum.sexlikereal.com/d/3704-why-dont-nash-scenes-get-priority-scripts/15

Thanks

LordCrash

This is some pretty bad lighting in this trailer, shadows and dark spots everywhere, sucking up all the details and making the whole picture extremely rough. And not only in one of the two rooms the scene takes place, but in both?! Come on...

When I want to fuck girls in dim lighting so that I can hardly see any pussy I can have that in real life. In my porn I acutally want to see these beautiful girls in all their glory, genitals and tits etc. included.

I was really looking forward to this scene, especially due to Madison and Chanel. Now not anymore actually... 😥

AlterEgo

g2kbuffetboy

Just want to point out that so far, almost everything in this thread is production feedback (ie lighting on set, camera positions, etc), and not post-production feedback (ie editing, color treatments, etc).

So either this entire conversation got off to the wrong start or @justsomedude101 should probably rename the topic accordingly.

justsomedude101

g2kbuffetboy Renamed 👍️

rerun119

I for one like some of the darker looking scenes. I know a lot of people on here get mad if it isn't lite perfectly without any shadows. I like the mood of darker scenes because again for me it feels more like IRL = immersion.

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rerun119 I disagree, personally I find that darker looking scenes and shadows are the worst. I once subscribed to "DarkRoomVR" and it was my worst VR experience ever. Light is so important in scenes, every detail of the actress's body should be clearly visible.

But, I have an idea for you. If your VR headset has a passthrough feature, you can try out any passthrough scene (I recommend Xxlayna's scene). Turn off the light in your room or reduce it, maybe use a couple of night lights or candles, and play around with the settings to adjust how bright the actress's body. This will make the scene feel as close as possible to what you're looking for. Have fun 😉

spacepirate

[deleted] darker looking scenes are a refreshing change from the usual. harder to pull off but they can be great when done well. darkroomvr has a few good ones with sufficient light but most of the time they have same problem where the girl is covered in shadows and everything is left up to your imagination.. which is bad because vr is primarily about the visuals.

i think the key to making darker scenes work is to have a dimly lit room with directional lights aimed at the girl from the right angles and with the right intensity so that there are no shadows on the girl... while the room as a whole remains dimly lit.

Will65

spacepirate i think the key to making darker scenes work is to have a dimly lit room with directional lights aimed at the girl from the right angles and with the right intensity so that there are no shadows on the girl... while the room as a whole remains dimly lit.

This, exactly. Shadows everywhere is not helpful, but keeping the room darrk while lighting only the girl makes the detail and resolution just POP right out (also fewer pixels to deal with, similar to the way trees waving in the breeze in outdoor shots reduces sharpness on the girl).

Rustam1990

The latest Raw Taboo: Mean Sis was an almost-nashterpiece. The scene and the trio were off the charts in terms of hotness. Madison played her innocent role very well, April was hot and sexy as usual. Chanel was standout as "bully". I wish there's a bit more build up to the scene, but their dirty talk made the taboo-ness of the story was probably one of the most naughty and "non-unrealistic" in the whole site, "you shouldn't be doing this...". The ending was a classic SLRO spectacle.

I echo the comments above - the reason why this isn't a Nashterpiece for me is that the lighting was unfortuately quite poor, especially the ending CG portion. The contrast was way too harsh from the beginning and wasn't improved much by decreasing the contrast from the player app. So a lot of detail was gone in the shadowy parts(even during the ending creampie).

This scene deserves a better-lit sequel with Chanel, April and Madison (all of them or at least Madison and Chanel reprising their roles as sisters) coming back, perhaps with "mom"...

rock1515

Rustam1990 The latest Raw Taboo: Mean Sis was an almost-nashterpiece

Rustam1990 the reason why this isn't a Nashterpiece for me is that the lighting was unfortuately quite poor, especially the ending CG portion.

@alexnash @Mutiny
I agree that the once the girls moved to the bedroom the shadows were interfering with the viewing enjoyment of the show. Had to skip forward to some of the closer shots in order to feel immersed again. I subbed to Darkroom VR a few months ago and after a few trial runs watching their vids, I immediately deleted all their content from my HD due to this type of lighting issue, (Also the content was a bit too rough around the edges for my taste.) .... To be clear though, I do think dramatic lighting if done with real precision and artistic intent can absolutely elevate a shoot. But it needs to be well thought out and carefully produced to highlight and spotlight the sexy parts etc....

This is a bit of tangent,... but for instance watch the first five minutes of Wankz: The Wanking Dead: Return of the Slayer
https://www.wankzvr.com/wankzvr/the-wanking-dead-return-of-the-slayer-5151035
(Not available on SLR yet apparently)
Some of the best use of lighting to create a mood that I have seen in VR to date. I hope we can see more of this type of stuff in future VR productions.

LordCrash

@Evan_Redstar @doublevr @alexnash

Customer feedback for https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/raw-taboo-mean-sis-33593

I couldn't say it any better myself so I thought I just share this brutally honest feedback with you with almost zero commentary.

All I want to say is: Please fix this ASAP!

It's such a tragedy if amazing casting and actually pretty good directing is dragged own by technical and production issues like bad camera distance, bad scaling and bad lighting...

JizzyJeff

Damn Crash, I made an account to express my issues with this scene on this forum only to find you already quoted me. Thats kinda hilarious.

Its just bizarre that you guys are shooting these great ladies and the scenes are practically unwatchable and marred with glaring technical issues that shouldn't be present. I've seen lower budgeted sites do a better job than you have been doing lately. I am really almost at a point where im just gonna cancel my account.

S_vr

LordCrash Sorry for that. Indeed, there are many discussions on the subject of scaling within the company. This video is already being edited.

LordCrash

The best way to deal with feedback is ignoring it, I guess...

doublevr

LordCrash nothing is ignored. there is a lengthy internal debate on the matter I have yet to check. Otherwise we are greatly understaffed for current operation and we simply need more manpower to get things running.

We do our best and hope it's going to work. Will follow up soon

LordCrash

doublevr Alright, thanks for the reply.

It's good to know that there is an internal discussion about this and that you're willing to optimize and improve. Looking forward to see thsese improvements implemented once the team is ready.

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