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I will be moving some comments (mostly about post-production feedback) from other threads to this new one, where they'll be more applicable and less off topic to the original threads.

Please feel free to share you thoughts on post-production/editing/SLR Originals here.

@Evan_Redstar general FYI

Edit: there's no easy way that I see to do it, so it ain't pretty, but here it is.

highkiller alexnash
What are you talking about? I haven't edited this post. On the other hand your response has an edited sing next to it. But it doesn't matter. My posts are often edited because english is my second language, unfortunately while using this forum on the phone sometimes I experience some kind of glitch that makes it hard to scroll back and revise my post before posting while writing it. Making it almost impossible correct some ill formed sentences or botched words. So because of that sometimes I correct those mistakes after posting by editing my post to make it more understandable. None of my posts were ever edited after someone responded to them (exception being someone pointing some error in my post but then I always mark those changes with "EDIT" written in the text).

spacepirate
This reply from spacepirate shows exact problem with overexposure that i was talking about.

alexnash about overexposed, ok - sometimes things go unnoticed on the set

Sometimes? Lately it is a standard practice in SLR original releases.
The SLR site doesn't allow me to make screen shots and I don't want to rewrite this and waste more of my time gathering evidence for you.
I will point out scenes that had those issue and you can revise them and make changes or don't. I don't appreciate coming back from work and working again for a site that that i pay to watch. This is supposed to be a way to relax and have fun for me and not a side project. Especially that you are not a starter company. You should have this shit figured out by now.
Here are the examples that i noticed:

Grey Clouds crystal shop - overexposed during cowgirl

Nuru Oil treatment with Lilly Bell - overexposed during intro and during cowgirl

i don't usually do this... - overexposed all the time

screwing out of school project - very bright ray of light is illuminating left side of Emma (but that is ok. Whole set looks good because of that). Problem starts when whe jump from dark intro, to bright left side illuminated standing missionary and back do the dark room. Also Face of Emma was too high during missionary and it was difficult to adjust it in setting. Which is frustrating for the longest time you guys were known for your perfect missionary shots. Now it is a game of chance.

Private Lesson - the part by the piano looked like an early Darkroomvr production. Above the head cold light overexposing Adria and casting shadows on her. And then we transition to a dungeon dark room where Adria looked like she was illuminated by phone camera flash light. Making her not lit enough and yet still partialy overexposed. She literally looked like someone was pointing a weak flashlight at her.

Your body wellness - overexposed during missionary

Sexual alchemy: sounds of pleasure - overexposed

Sugar baby sweet talk - overexposed

My stepbrother's girlfriend - overexposed during missionary on the couch

GFE scarlett treat - as it was already shown with screenshots massively overexposed for the whole duration of the first part. Then the bedroom part was ok but again we experience a drastic change in color. Starting in white cold lighting of the living room and going to warm almost too orange light of the bedroom.

Raw Taboo: unusual trio - the same mistakes as in GFE Scarlett and yet pushed a little further to be even worse. Dark room and very overposed girls in the first part shot in the living room and again we change the setting to bedroom and with it you jump from one end of light scale to another. Living room being overexposed pale white and bedroom being orange. Neither looking natural.

And those are just the latest scenes. I don't have time or the energy to look further down the list.
And i want to point out that those are the issues that i only saw from the trailers because i resigned from my subscription and it ended around Raw taboo: unusual trio. So i don't know if there aren't any more issues in the above mentioned scenes beside the things that i wrote down.

Also just compare the missionary position in My Dirty Laundry 2 and They're So Fired. The dirty laundry scene has perfect image sharpness and quality, the colours are perfect without making any changes and there are any drastic light or color changes when we move from laundry room to bedroom. They're So Fired was shot on the same camera and the colour and light are way worse (same with the Mean Girls).
I bought They're So Fired just because i Love Lilly and Laney together if it weren't for those to girls i wouldn't even think to buy it. After many tries and some dramatic changes in settings of deovr i managed to make this scene look ok but still it is still not even slightly comparable to Dirty Laundry 2 or Your Girlfriend, Kira Perez level of image quality, vivid natural colours and all around good lighting of the set and performers.

You guys have made in the past a lot of scenes that were close to perfect, a lot of scenes that had issues (some similar or the same to this one). Why aren't you taking note from your good scenes and try to replicate them and why aren't you learning from mistakes that you already made ?

There was a one month period between release of GFE scarlett treat and Raw Taboo: unusual trio. Isn't there someone in your team who reviews scenes after release to check for mistakes and quality check? Or even better. Before release. Because after a month you guys didn't fix the mistakes made in the first video you just made the same mistakes and made them even worse than before.

Sorry for responding so late to your message but i have a job a life and decreasing interest and engagement in SLR. Lately i am not as often on the forum because for a long time now I am not excited about any of your releases and often disappointed by them. Therefore I don't come here looking for some news about new scenes or BTS of new releases. I don't recommend new performes because I know that I will just be disappointed.

    alexnash highkiller it’s hard to answer that response, there are so many wrongs in there lol 😆
    It’s like watching the scene from the Jupiter - well… “Hello earth” 🌍
    who knows - knows 🌟🙏🏻

    alexnash highkiller Defiantly this thread has a different purpose, so yes, next time take it to a different thread if you ever decide to come back and politely talk about this.
    Just one of the notes for you though: most of the scenes you are talking about not even mine, do a proper research before posting. Peace ☮️

    Will65 alexnash This type of reply is exactly why people passionate about VR porn in general and the overall success of SLR specifically eventually just give up and accept your seemingly inevitable slide towards mediocrity. The poster was called out for details, and after he took the time to type out a thousand word post full of details, he got a snarky clap back. And the mods wonder why the posters can become uncivil? Perhaps the scenes weren't yours - but you work for SLR, right? You could forward them somewhere, right? You could thank the person for their time and feedback, and say that you'll give it some thought on your own productions, right? I could keep generating ways that you could have answered that constructively, but you already know.

    So much wrong there, indeed.

    LordCrash Thanks for ruining another fun thread with your negative energy, guys... 🤦

    @justsomedude101 Could you please take action and put these posts in a more fitting space?

    rerun119 Will65 Maybe @alexnash could have said some of the things you mentioned but he is the only director on here that takes the time to answer anybody about production. I don't think he should be knocked for writing back to people. The directors of most of those scenes say nothing on here, only Nash does. So people get mad it him for all of SLR lighting issues. I don't think that is fair.

              Let's collect some constructive feedback! 😊

              About some of the scenes that were shot in difficult lighting conditions (e.g. direct, bright sunlight) and have overexposed skin:
              If the production team knows the scene might be a challenge, perhaps it's worth to try and shoot in log-format and color-grade the video in post-production. The log-format saves a much higher dynamic range and allows for some exposure mistake to be fixed later on.

              Example:

              If that seems like overkill and too expensive to do, I would advice to change the setup of the scene to simply avoid any harsh lighting conditions. Better to have a less exciting setup than an overexposed performer.

              Thank you @justsomedude101 for creating a separate thread for this!

              Guys, as I have mentioned many times before - any feedback is appreciated and I value it. Just please if you take time to white a thousand words essay and break down each scene into frames please take 5 minutes to learn who you need to direct this feedback for. I only can answer for myself and I don't have any authorization to answer for other producers and directors. Now you can easy search for a particular scene and connect it to a specific producer by looking into tags: https://www.sexlikereal.com/tags/alex-nash-vr

              The SLR site doesn't allow me to make screen shots and I don't want to rewrite this and waste more of my time gathering evidence for you.

              As I know you can take screenshots from SLR website or what do you mean? But I got it and I do have a lot of things to take care too beside the forum.

              Here are the examples that i noticed:

              Grey Clouds crystal shop - overexposed during cowgirl

              Nuru Oil treatment with Lilly Bell - overexposed during intro and during cowgirl

              i don't usually do this... - overexposed all the time

              screwing out of school project - very bright ray of light is illuminating left side of Emma (but that is ok. Whole set looks good because of that). Problem starts when whe jump from dark intro, to bright left side illuminated standing missionary and back do the dark room. Also Face of Emma was too high during missionary and it was difficult to adjust it in setting. Which is frustrating for the longest time you guys were known for your perfect missionary shots. Now it is a game of chance.

              Private Lesson - the part by the piano looked like an early Darkroomvr production. Above the head cold light overexposing Adria and casting shadows on her. And then we transition to a dungeon dark room where Adria looked like she was illuminated by phone camera flash light. Making her not lit enough and yet still partialy overexposed. She literally looked like someone was pointing a weak flashlight at her.

              Your body wellness - overexposed during missionary

              I can't answer for all of those scenes.

              Sugar baby sweet talk - overexposed

              GFE scarlett treat - as it was already shown with screenshots massively overexposed for the whole duration of the first part. Then the bedroom part was ok but again we experience a drastic change in color. Starting in white cold lighting of the living room and going to warm almost too orange light of the bedroom.

              Raw Taboo: unusual trio - the same mistakes as in GFE Scarlett and yet pushed a little further to be even worse. Dark room and very overposed girls in the first part shot in the living room and again we change the setting to bedroom and with it you jump from one end of light scale to another. Living room being overexposed pale white and bedroom being orange. Neither looking natural.

              All those above are mine and I am already aware of the issues and taking care of it from my side, I think I've mentioned it few times already in other threads. But again I really do appreciate taking time to point on those issues. Sorry guys I am too just don't have a lot of time spending on forum and going into each post in details and many times I just skim through them, sometime maybe missing some points and details. I leave to come back to it later. I do take it deeply serious but I guess I expect more of fan interaction vibes, I don't expect "customer service responsibilities' vibes. I am here to interact and I wish everybody to have a good time and have fun.
              I am here always with the best intentions and expect the same from you. Thank you for understanding guys!




                This is some pretty bad lighting in this trailer, shadows and dark spots everywhere, sucking up all the details and making the whole picture extremely rough. And not only in one of the two rooms the scene takes place, but in both?! Come on...

                When I want to fuck girls in dim lighting so that I can hardly see any pussy I can have that in real life. In my porn I acutally want to see these beautiful girls in all their glory, genitals and tits etc. included.

                I was really looking forward to this scene, especially due to Madison and Chanel. Now not anymore actually... 😥

                  Just want to point out that so far, almost everything in this thread is production feedback (ie lighting on set, camera positions, etc), and not post-production feedback (ie editing, color treatments, etc).

                  So either this entire conversation got off to the wrong start or @justsomedude101 should probably rename the topic accordingly.

                    justsomedude101 changed the title to Production & Post-production Feedback .

                    I for one like some of the darker looking scenes. I know a lot of people on here get mad if it isn't lite perfectly without any shadows. I like the mood of darker scenes because again for me it feels more like IRL = immersion.

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                      rerun119 I disagree, personally I find that darker looking scenes and shadows are the worst. I once subscribed to "DarkRoomVR" and it was my worst VR experience ever. Light is so important in scenes, every detail of the actress's body should be clearly visible.

                      But, I have an idea for you. If your VR headset has a passthrough feature, you can try out any passthrough scene (I recommend Xxlayna's scene). Turn off the light in your room or reduce it, maybe use a couple of night lights or candles, and play around with the settings to adjust how bright the actress's body. This will make the scene feel as close as possible to what you're looking for. Have fun 😉

                          [deleted] darker looking scenes are a refreshing change from the usual. harder to pull off but they can be great when done well. darkroomvr has a few good ones with sufficient light but most of the time they have same problem where the girl is covered in shadows and everything is left up to your imagination.. which is bad because vr is primarily about the visuals.

                          i think the key to making darker scenes work is to have a dimly lit room with directional lights aimed at the girl from the right angles and with the right intensity so that there are no shadows on the girl... while the room as a whole remains dimly lit.

                              spacepirate i think the key to making darker scenes work is to have a dimly lit room with directional lights aimed at the girl from the right angles and with the right intensity so that there are no shadows on the girl... while the room as a whole remains dimly lit.

                              This, exactly. Shadows everywhere is not helpful, but keeping the room darrk while lighting only the girl makes the detail and resolution just POP right out (also fewer pixels to deal with, similar to the way trees waving in the breeze in outdoor shots reduces sharpness on the girl).

                                The latest Raw Taboo: Mean Sis was an almost-nashterpiece. The scene and the trio were off the charts in terms of hotness. Madison played her innocent role very well, April was hot and sexy as usual. Chanel was standout as "bully". I wish there's a bit more build up to the scene, but their dirty talk made the taboo-ness of the story was probably one of the most naughty and "non-unrealistic" in the whole site, "you shouldn't be doing this...". The ending was a classic SLRO spectacle.

                                I echo the comments above - the reason why this isn't a Nashterpiece for me is that the lighting was unfortuately quite poor, especially the ending CG portion. The contrast was way too harsh from the beginning and wasn't improved much by decreasing the contrast from the player app. So a lot of detail was gone in the shadowy parts(even during the ending creampie).

                                This scene deserves a better-lit sequel with Chanel, April and Madison (all of them or at least Madison and Chanel reprising their roles as sisters) coming back, perhaps with "mom"...

                                  @Evan_Redstar @doublevr @alexnash

                                  Customer feedback for https://www.sexlikereal.com/scenes/raw-taboo-mean-sis-33593




                                  I couldn't say it any better myself so I thought I just share this brutally honest feedback with you with almost zero commentary.

                                  All I want to say is: Please fix this ASAP!

                                  It's such a tragedy if amazing casting and actually pretty good directing is dragged own by technical and production issues like bad camera distance, bad scaling and bad lighting...

                                    LordCrash

                                    Damn Crash, I made an account to express my issues with this scene on this forum only to find you already quoted me. Thats kinda hilarious.

                                    Its just bizarre that you guys are shooting these great ladies and the scenes are practically unwatchable and marred with glaring technical issues that shouldn't be present. I've seen lower budgeted sites do a better job than you have been doing lately. I am really almost at a point where im just gonna cancel my account.