rerun119 Have you watched this one @rerun119 ? Or do you or others completely avoid Passthrough AR scenes even if they are scripted same day with Sex Toy use?

I personally thought Serena looked amazing and very sexy in this one

      RealcumberScripts do you or others completely avoid Passthrough AR scenes even if they are scripted same day with Sex Toy use?

      Yes, avoid completely. The passthrough is completely unimmersive - scale is awful, quality is inconsistent, too many camera position changes and awkward cuts - as many have noted in comments and discussions. Watching them without the passthrough activated is ugly. Perhaps the CGI backgrounds might help in the future, but you still have a model in grey pajamas in an unimmersive environment. VR porn is about the immersive experience. This is not what I consider to be VR porn, but no one seems to care anymore. I only responded because you asked - although I am surprised you don't know this already. It isn't a matter of "try it, you might like it". We already know we don't, but we are stuck with 1 out of every 4 videos anyway. Franlkly, they should give people who subcribed for VR a 25% credit and block the AR from them.

      RealcumberScripts Serena looked amazing and very sexy in this one

      Yes, she was skilled and beautiful. I also liked the pace the scene was shot at - quite the artistic improvement. It's a shame it was wasted on AR - especially (as countless others have also noted previously) this is her only scene.

      MODS - please note that I only responded here in response to a direct question by one of your staff addressed to people who may not like passthrough.

          RealcumberScripts Not only do I completely avoid it, I can't watch it anyways. I have a Pimax 8KX. It doesn't have PT. I bought a Pimax to get the best possible VR immersion.

          Do people really watch PT with a handy? I would think you would see a giant handy machine going up and down. That can't look good in PT. I have asked a couple of times but nobody answers, maybe that means nobody does.

              rerun119 You can watch it with a handy, and not see the machine at all. The machine is generally in the part of the video where the model is (ie on your dick) so the model projection is opaque and blocks the view of the machine.

              That said, it still really sucks. Once in a while the passthrough can be semi-realistic, but those moments are very few, very short, and don't consist of much of the film. It's 90 - 95% gimmicky and unrealistic mess with occasional flashes of semi-realism.

              FYI - this is coming from someone who invested $1500.00 in a Quest Pro with color passthrough because I really wanted passthrough to work. It just doesn't. It's a big disappointment, and I can't fathom why people still ask for it - especially that one dude who puts passthrough numbers in every. single. scene. Sometimes those are vaguely passable, but most of them result in ghostly, creepy, models with weird hair, missing limbs, or no eyes. I guess if you like horror porn...

                So i think maybe i just don't have the right setup for passthrough, but on my Quest 2 it's just like a black and white grainy projection of my surroundings. Usually on those scenes i just turn the passthrough off and watch it like a normal VR with a green background

                  RealcumberScripts I see that you script every PT scene right away. Is it because it is easier to script or is it because you make more money on those scenes or both? I really wish they didn't exist so we could have your precious time on the nash scenes. I'll watch them 5 times if that helps the numbers.

                      Will65 I don't understand why we bother with it

                      I never cared about the surroundings being grainy b/w, especially when the lighting is dim. It is sufficient for my brain to make the PT experience work and for that I do not need to see myself or my chambers in all their glory. I am actually wondering whether clear color PT would still work for me, as it might bother me more if the video and background colors won't match well.

                        rerun119 RealcumberScripts Not only do I completely avoid it, I can't watch it anyways. I have a Pimax 8KX. It doesn't have PT. I bought a Pimax to get the best possible VR immersion.

                        I'm not sure why you wouldnt or can't still watch it normally though - the scene is still a regular shot scene - you dont need to watch it in Passthrough, you can just watch it with its regular background can you not?
                        I have a Pimax 5K+ and it plays perfectly fine without Passthrough, so Im surprised to hear you would still avoid even watching it without Passthrough enabled, hence why I figured PT covers both fan bases (for the most part)

                        rerun119 RealcumberScripts I see that you script every PT scene right away. Is it because it is easier to script or is it because you make more money on those scenes or both? I really wish they didn't exist so we could have your precious time on the nash scenes. I'll watch them 5 times if that helps the numbers.

                        rerun119 - Passthrough ones are almost always under 45/50 minutes long, way faster to script than the 1hr, 1hr 30+ that the Alex Nash ones usually are

                        Also Passthrough shot scenes seem to usually allow more easier unobstructed views of penetration for less tedious scripting

                        Any and all (streaming) watch time helps though to see what numbers make more sense to focus on - if you are watching offline then unfortunately those views would not apply

                                RealcumberScripts I'm not sure why you wouldnt or can't still watch it normally though - the scene is still a regular shot scene - you dont need to watch it in Passthrough, you can just watch it with its regular background can you not?
                                I have a Pimax 5K+ and it plays perfectly fine without Passthrough, so Im surprised to hear you would still avoid even watching it without Passthrough enabled, hence why I figured PT covers both fan bases (for the most part)

                                Look at it this way:

                                A master bedroom in a nice house with plenty of natural ambient light
                                vs
                                An ugly, bare, unappealing green or grey box that looks almost like a prision cell and is lit with artificial light

                                It shouldn't be surprising that these PT scenes are a big downgrade compared to regular non-PT scenes, for customers who aren't interested in PT. There is more to a good scene than just the girl.

                                    Hairsational A master bedroom in a nice house with plenty of natural ambient light
                                    vs
                                    An ugly, bare, unappealing green or grey box that looks almost like a prision cell and is lit with artificial light

                                    Exactly.

                                    For visuals to make the jump from 3D porn to an artificial (virtual) reality, the mind requires immersion in the scene. This is why I keep harping that you guys are moving away from VR and just shooting flat porn in 3D. It's about the experience, not just "naked chick in whatever environment".

                                    It seems to me that you all are over-engaged with the technical side of VR and not up to speed on the perceptual and emotional component that makes it great. Take a look at this paper (written by my colleagues):

                                    The impact of perception and presence on emotional reactions: a review of research in virtual reality

                                    Suspension of disbelief is key to achieving the immersion necessary to achieve presence and emotional engagement. Otherwise, it is just 3D porn. As any advertising exec (or psychologist) will tell you, it is the emotional experience that makes the sale and hooks customers, not the tech.

                                      RealcumberScripts I could watch it with a gray prison wall look with "pretend me" being in a gray suit. It' going to be hard to convince me that there are a lot of people that would want to watch that over say ALL the other scenes with a real house in the background.
                                      I also noticed today that you get double the scripting for the PT scenes now that they are adding a digital background and adding them as a new release. That is a smart move on your end. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Everybody at SLR gets a two for one now. In the SLR meeting, PT must look like the greatest business idea since sliced bread.

                                      Again this could be fixed if SLR spent their time and money on removing the backgrounds like they said they were going to do instead of adding backgrounds. I know this has nothing to do with your decision making.

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