SLR vision and logic

doublevr

I can see current VR as being transition to super realistic all sense experience. It's like projecting your dreams into reality. There won't be age, sex or body constrains to enjoy great things in VR connecting with other great people all over the planet. There's still a way ahead and that's what drives us to get in things like passthrough, haptics and all the innovations we are accomplishing.

Back to more day to day operation.
We target users who prefer the best streaming as it's clean, comprehensive was to consume things. There will be a constant flow of new content coming and streaming is best set to get you the best thing of your personal taste in no time based on your past preferences and current choices.
Disclaimer. I do have a respect for download people thus we are providing the best in class Originals download source quality. Yet we won't be investing our limited resource budget in extra downloads encodings as it's a costly operation and some very few people would appreciate it compared to our abundant streaming userbase.

We put a lot of effort to come up with content suggestions, exposing the best moments in the videos in Shorts, improving search and other things. Can't wait to release shared BYOJ and greatly fine tune it with object tracking, advanced checkbox tools and make it work with handstracking so you can grab things in videos with your own hands.

And super big thing is multiuser. Where you can have your own private parties or join others to meet strangers. I can see some cool folks getting people around in VR something like top cam or OF girls.

I've outlined our current haptics efforts in a separate thread https://forum.sexlikereal.com/d/3569-slr-haptics-effort and there will be much more to it.

Also we are looking to greatly improve our current playback with all the great things from https://forum.sexlikereal.com/d/3544-deovr-v-heresphere/ and more getting live. Dev team is super motivated to bring things up to the next level.

There are more directors joining Originals exploring new ways of ultimate VR satisfaction. Can't wait to see our beloved Mutiny to put his hands into production. Know that Alex Mack guy? he starts directing for us now. Hopefully we can get something from our Manny guy. And our superstar Andy Zane https://twitter.com/andyzanexxx/ to get back into production (one day).

Big hopes to introduce OnlyFans functionality to interact with performers that will be also getting 3% from their video sales once they verify accounts.

Can't wait to get real amateurs start filming VR. Trying to figure it out.

That's more or less it for now. Love you all.

petermc

doublevr I’m just here to watch VR porn! A lot of what you are talking is pie in the sky, years and years away from being a reality. If and when you get there and people have the equipment to take advantage of it, great. Right now though, as you have said, there’s a long way to go. How about then, for now, just releasing the top quality VR porn we all want to see and pay for and doing your R&D behind the scenes instead of releasing these primitive looking passthrough scenes that are neither one thing nor the other and don’t work in any meaningful way for most customers.

LordCrash

doublevr
I appreciate that you took the time to write that down but there's sadly nothing in there that really peaks my interest. Shooting interesting and technically solid VR videos is somehow the basic requirement for every VR porn site so I don't think that there's something special about it.

What happened to super high-quality 2d versions for every SLRO scene? IIRC that was on your vision last year and I was really looking forward to that...

rerun119

doublevr I can see current VR as being transition to super realistic all sense experience. It's like projecting your dreams into reality.

spacepirate

i feel like theres no way those haptics suits will catch on

really sad that its going to remain a choice between poor video quality and ludicrous file sizes with nothing in the middle

is alex mack performing for slr or only directing?

SchnuppiLilac

spacepirate really sad

Indeed. That puts an end to this discussion...

Still, I don't get one thing (and please note this concerns only the super huge SLRO original files, not the original files from all other studios): Which customer group is served by this? Who is the target audience? Obviously not the streamers and apparently also not the majority of downloaders who would be happy with the more than decent quality of bitrates of somewhere between 40 and 90 Mbps (instead of 190 and the insane file sizes that come along with it).

argyle43

SchnuppiLilac what it serves is the equivalent of drowning an auditor with 20,000 boxes of paper. They clearly don’t want us to download despite what gets said to the contrary. Action speaks so much louder than words.

even the title of this thread (currently The logic behind SLR explaining everything) what it says to me is “stop bothering us with questions about what we’re doing and why!”

argyle43

SchnuppiLilac majority of downloaders who would be happy with the more than decent quality of bitrates of somewhere between 40 and 90 Mbps (instead of 190 and the insane file sizes that come along with it)

It’s up to you to pull that down (good luck if you have data caps or maximum 10 Mbps connection in your town). After two days, once you have that raw original, it’s now up to you to re-encode to the quality and size that made the most sense in the first place.

argyle43

[deleted] I think you should keep the original files option up to 30 or 40 GB. Anything larger than that should be divided in half, with the halves released separately.

I hate multi-part releases. Hate them!! Proper bitrate encoding as already mentioned could easily create a sweet spot download size while maintaining perfectly acceptable view quality. Streaming customers don’t then have to have their experience interrupted and be frustrated waiting to get to the climactic parts. I pray this suggestion is summarily ignored/rejected and the logical arguments made by others above (see SchnuppiLilac) about download files be properly reconsidered!

Any others feeling passionately about this (I know a lot of you are out there) please speak up as well, we really don’t need this lunacy ruining content around here further.

doublevr

argyle43 edited the title for you 👌

SchnuppiLilac

argyle43 what it serves is the equivalent of drowning an auditor with 20,000 boxes of paper

To be honest, I was thinking the same thing. Nobody seems to need the super huge SLRO files at this point. It would take no additional resources to encode them in two instead of three digit bitrates in the first place. The files would cause less traffic and need less storage space, so SLR would even save some resources. But sure, if it's true that more than 99.9 % of customers are perfectly happy with 22 Mbps 8K or less (even the 4K h.264 client base seems to be more relevant), then I can understand why there is no real need for SLR to change anything.

argyle43

doublevr title how you like sir. It’s literally your business.

petergriff

I haven't been here very long but there seems to be this weird disconnect between a site that wants to go in 9000 different conceptual and technological directions and a site that doesn't want you to download too much because they have limited resources.

I just want some good looking VR scenes with more than 10 seconds of story. I'm gonna be long dead before all of this haptic hologram virtual ecosystem stuff will be anything near usable for most people. I'm still wearing a glorified Android phone on my head.

argyle43

petergriff 9000 different conceptual and technological directions

petergriff I just want some good looking VR scenes

nailed it square on the head man. I tried to tell him the same thing here too. I don’t think he’s interested.

fenderwq

Would have been nice to have a high bitrate download alternative but as long as there is an original to download I'm pretty satisfied. Just bought a 18tb drive so...

bobbytables

argyle43 he's too lost in his own sauce to realize the horrible state the foundation is in. I have zero problems with them doing R&D and expanding features, but only if they keep a good foundation (quality SLR videos). Instead he's up in the rafters tinkering while the foundation's quality gets worse and worse. Meanwhile competitors are putting out better and better content, with stories and lighting and high bitrates with great models.

rerun119

bobbytables You are so right. For me if the other site with almost the same videos minus the amateurish stuff can get scripts then its game over. They make really high quality videos week after week.

argyle43

rerun119 the scene this week with Ailee and Gizelle was absolutely stunning.

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petermc pie in the sky

Thanks for that! Don't think of an Elephant! See how my username has infected your thinking 😉

eos666

all i want SLR to be is a good portal/aggregator of VR porn releases from as many sources as possible, all in one place. nothing else.
i dont need anything else, just as much good content as you can get on the platform.

[deleted]

That's @doublevr's speech for joining the World Economic Forum or WEF. That's essentially what they were all saying in the lectures I heard. We're no longer human, we're existential digital beings.

For now just focus on good film-making (great job Alex Nashe) and a decent story and casting. Right now, in my opinion, SLR is wanting in narrative quality. Every scene, or at least too many of them, concern kinky family sex fantasies. You heard it here first: I've heard rumors that certain credit companies might be blocking the sale of that next, so spend your time and money on better narratives!

I think you should keep the original files option up to 30 or 40 GB. Anything larger than that should be divided in half, with the halves released separately.

Haptics are a little far down the line, though the devices one day may be extremely profitable for the niche group that wants that experience.

g2kbuffetboy

[deleted] I think you should keep the original files option up to 30 or 40 GB. Anything larger than that should be divided in half, with the halves released separately.

Hard disagree on this one. Multi-part releases should be avoided as a whole, unless each episode is a full scene and part of a narrative series, and NOT because of file size. Not only will you have a partial scene on release day, you'll have to wait for a few days to see the end of the scene. People will have to buy two scripts, it will take up two releases, but more importantly the experience of the scene itself will feel disjointed and not as immersive.

If this year's AVN winner Dream Team, by Nash, was split into two scenes, how would that even work? Also, on the SLR metrics side, it wouldn't have been the most popular video on SLR (as announced at the end of the year), due to splitting of the likes and view counts, it will split comments and feedback into two separate threads, and it will be difficult to see the scene as a single entity.

LordCrash

[deleted] Right now, in my opinion, SLR is wanting in narrative quality.

Hard reality: There is no good storytelling in VR porn today, neither on SLR nor somewhere else.

It's because you simply can't create a good storyline without basic human interaction like speaking. Yeah, I know, it's revolutionary for some, but basic human interaction involves verbal communication from everyone involved, it's not a one sided affair...

[deleted] Every scene, or at least too many of them, concern kinky family sex fantasies.

What the heck are you smoking? I want some of that too... 🤣

That's just false information though. Almost all VR porn is just some goofy girl friend experience and only a tiny fraction involves faux family porn. It's a bit different in 2D porn (the porn universe in which some storytelling actually exists...) but imho the faux family stuff is still better than the old "pizza-guy", "massage-guy", "repair-guy" cliches we've seen over and over again in the past...

petermc

[deleted] ha ha yes, a few hours after making my comment, I was scrolling through stuff and saw your username and chuckled to myself! Maybe you were subliminally in my mind!

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