SLR vision and logic

argyle43

SchnuppiLilac what it serves is the equivalent of drowning an auditor with 20,000 boxes of paper. They clearly don’t want us to download despite what gets said to the contrary. Action speaks so much louder than words.

even the title of this thread (currently The logic behind SLR explaining everything) what it says to me is “stop bothering us with questions about what we’re doing and why!”

doublevr

argyle43 edited the title for you 👌

SchnuppiLilac

argyle43 what it serves is the equivalent of drowning an auditor with 20,000 boxes of paper

To be honest, I was thinking the same thing. Nobody seems to need the super huge SLRO files at this point. It would take no additional resources to encode them in two instead of three digit bitrates in the first place. The files would cause less traffic and need less storage space, so SLR would even save some resources. But sure, if it's true that more than 99.9 % of customers are perfectly happy with 22 Mbps 8K or less (even the 4K h.264 client base seems to be more relevant), then I can understand why there is no real need for SLR to change anything.

argyle43

doublevr title how you like sir. It’s literally your business.

argyle43

SchnuppiLilac majority of downloaders who would be happy with the more than decent quality of bitrates of somewhere between 40 and 90 Mbps (instead of 190 and the insane file sizes that come along with it)

It’s up to you to pull that down (good luck if you have data caps or maximum 10 Mbps connection in your town). After two days, once you have that raw original, it’s now up to you to re-encode to the quality and size that made the most sense in the first place.

petergriff

I haven't been here very long but there seems to be this weird disconnect between a site that wants to go in 9000 different conceptual and technological directions and a site that doesn't want you to download too much because they have limited resources.

I just want some good looking VR scenes with more than 10 seconds of story. I'm gonna be long dead before all of this haptic hologram virtual ecosystem stuff will be anything near usable for most people. I'm still wearing a glorified Android phone on my head.

argyle43

petergriff 9000 different conceptual and technological directions

petergriff I just want some good looking VR scenes

nailed it square on the head man. I tried to tell him the same thing here too. I don’t think he’s interested.

fenderwq

Would have been nice to have a high bitrate download alternative but as long as there is an original to download I'm pretty satisfied. Just bought a 18tb drive so...

bobbytables

argyle43 he's too lost in his own sauce to realize the horrible state the foundation is in. I have zero problems with them doing R&D and expanding features, but only if they keep a good foundation (quality SLR videos). Instead he's up in the rafters tinkering while the foundation's quality gets worse and worse. Meanwhile competitors are putting out better and better content, with stories and lighting and high bitrates with great models.

rerun119

bobbytables You are so right. For me if the other site with almost the same videos minus the amateurish stuff can get scripts then its game over. They make really high quality videos week after week.

argyle43

rerun119 the scene this week with Ailee and Gizelle was absolutely stunning.

petermc

doublevr I’m just here to watch VR porn! A lot of what you are talking is pie in the sky, years and years away from being a reality. If and when you get there and people have the equipment to take advantage of it, great. Right now though, as you have said, there’s a long way to go. How about then, for now, just releasing the top quality VR porn we all want to see and pay for and doing your R&D behind the scenes instead of releasing these primitive looking passthrough scenes that are neither one thing nor the other and don’t work in any meaningful way for most customers.

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petermc pie in the sky

Thanks for that! Don't think of an Elephant! See how my username has infected your thinking 😉

eos666

all i want SLR to be is a good portal/aggregator of VR porn releases from as many sources as possible, all in one place. nothing else.
i dont need anything else, just as much good content as you can get on the platform.

[deleted]

That's @doublevr's speech for joining the World Economic Forum or WEF. That's essentially what they were all saying in the lectures I heard. We're no longer human, we're existential digital beings.

For now just focus on good film-making (great job Alex Nashe) and a decent story and casting. Right now, in my opinion, SLR is wanting in narrative quality. Every scene, or at least too many of them, concern kinky family sex fantasies. You heard it here first: I've heard rumors that certain credit companies might be blocking the sale of that next, so spend your time and money on better narratives!

I think you should keep the original files option up to 30 or 40 GB. Anything larger than that should be divided in half, with the halves released separately.

Haptics are a little far down the line, though the devices one day may be extremely profitable for the niche group that wants that experience.

argyle43

[deleted] I think you should keep the original files option up to 30 or 40 GB. Anything larger than that should be divided in half, with the halves released separately.

I hate multi-part releases. Hate them!! Proper bitrate encoding as already mentioned could easily create a sweet spot download size while maintaining perfectly acceptable view quality. Streaming customers don’t then have to have their experience interrupted and be frustrated waiting to get to the climactic parts. I pray this suggestion is summarily ignored/rejected and the logical arguments made by others above (see SchnuppiLilac) about download files be properly reconsidered!

Any others feeling passionately about this (I know a lot of you are out there) please speak up as well, we really don’t need this lunacy ruining content around here further.

g2kbuffetboy

[deleted] I think you should keep the original files option up to 30 or 40 GB. Anything larger than that should be divided in half, with the halves released separately.

Hard disagree on this one. Multi-part releases should be avoided as a whole, unless each episode is a full scene and part of a narrative series, and NOT because of file size. Not only will you have a partial scene on release day, you'll have to wait for a few days to see the end of the scene. People will have to buy two scripts, it will take up two releases, but more importantly the experience of the scene itself will feel disjointed and not as immersive.

If this year's AVN winner Dream Team, by Nash, was split into two scenes, how would that even work? Also, on the SLR metrics side, it wouldn't have been the most popular video on SLR (as announced at the end of the year), due to splitting of the likes and view counts, it will split comments and feedback into two separate threads, and it will be difficult to see the scene as a single entity.

LordCrash

[deleted] Right now, in my opinion, SLR is wanting in narrative quality.

Hard reality: There is no good storytelling in VR porn today, neither on SLR nor somewhere else.

It's because you simply can't create a good storyline without basic human interaction like speaking. Yeah, I know, it's revolutionary for some, but basic human interaction involves verbal communication from everyone involved, it's not a one sided affair...

[deleted] Every scene, or at least too many of them, concern kinky family sex fantasies.

What the heck are you smoking? I want some of that too... 🤣

That's just false information though. Almost all VR porn is just some goofy girl friend experience and only a tiny fraction involves faux family porn. It's a bit different in 2D porn (the porn universe in which some storytelling actually exists...) but imho the faux family stuff is still better than the old "pizza-guy", "massage-guy", "repair-guy" cliches we've seen over and over again in the past...

petermc

[deleted] ha ha yes, a few hours after making my comment, I was scrolling through stuff and saw your username and chuckled to myself! Maybe you were subliminally in my mind!

petermc

Agree about avoiding multi part releases. I personally like to have best possible version of a scene so I like that they have the original versions on here, whatever the file size may be. I don’t download anywhere near as much as a lot of you guys though so that’s probably why. I’ve still almost filled 9TB but I really only download stuff that I’ve checked out and absolutely love.

I assume the version of the scene they make available for streaming is a significantly smaller file size so surely it would be easy to make that file available for download as well as the huge original file?

toreador

I'm not sure what file size we're talking about with these originals (I'm fine with 10-15GB, but it sounds like we're talking about something crazy large?), but I will say one thing very clearly.

No sensible download options = no subscription from me.

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