DeoVR v HereSphere

LordCrash

fenderwq
Better image quality - I'm not really sure why but video just looks better on HereSphere to me. If I had to guess it's the auto focus in combination with the default sharpening but maybe there is more at play here. Image quality is probably the single most important factor to me.
Auto focus - This one is very important to me as well as I like closeups and JAV. A lot of video's like that simply will get major double vision without it. It also allows you to tilt your head (again without double vision) and it will make things less blurry when focused (better image quality). Some of my favourite parts in VrEdging movies for instance are pretty much unwatchable due to the double vision in DeoVR. This one is VERY important to me.
Seek speed for local files - Seeking through LOCAL videos is much faster in HereSphere than on DeoVR (PC version seeking on Pico4 is a lot better for some reason). With this I mean clicking on the seekbar and the amount of time it takes for the video to "catch up". As I tend to do this a lot it's actually a pretty big deal to me.
Sharpening is better - I think sharpening is one of the most valuable settings to improve the quality of a video. I think the sharpening just looks a little better in HereSphere. Also in DeoVR it's very hard to hone in on a good value as the values go too far in the extremes (the range should be less broad).
Performance - I haven't tested this in a while but it used to be I could play the original VrAllure files (with 100% super sampling on Pimax 8kx with my RTX 2070) on HereSphere and not on DeoVR. DeoVR would become pretty much become unresponsive when I tried to play these vids.
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Custom library management - There is also a lot more options for those who want to manage their library their own way. With things like tagging, timestamps, actors, playlists, etc. all for local files.

I agree with all of your points but these are the most important ones for me. These points are primarily responsible for me using HS almost exclusively now for all VR porn from all studios.

It's worth to mention that full sharpening was only recently relesased for the Oculus version of HS while it is available on Steam for quite some time now.

I need to add though that I rarely stream. 98% of the time I watch downloaded files from my local drives. IMO HS is especially valuable for everyone using local files and who want to enjoy VR in the best possible way, hence it's the tool of choice for most enthusiasts. I get that DeoVR or SLR app is neat for the mainstream who might not care about library management or expert settings and only want to use a streamlined, simple to use tool. But the enthusiasts among us want the best there is and tbh, the better video quality due to better auto adjustment, auto-zoom and sharpening would be of benefit for everybody.

fenderwq

LordCrash totally agree with this. Heresphere is mostly an enthousiast player. Even more so because it's 30 bucks and deovr is free. Also agree that this doesn't mean Deovr could take some good points from it though.

spacepirate

doublevr i told you how to identify a lot of issues not what those issues are.

"give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime"

rerun119

6 dof is part of the player that really makes a difference to me. If you move your head the picture is not static.

You can set multiple setting with an xbox controller by using layered buttons. For deo app I don't have enough buttons to put all the setting on the controller. Because of that I have to pull up the menu to move the slide to the left or right all the time. You want to talk about immersion breaking.

g2kbuffetboy

doublevr Please suggest things you like about HS that you don't find on pars in Deo.

The main things for me as to why I prefer HereSphere:

Handy scripts automatically adjust and sync to playback speed. That means, if I watch a scene at 75% speed, the Handy script adjusts on the fly and stays in sync. Super cool for edging scenarios.
Mouse support! I've been requesting this for years... but since I am a PC VR user, I like to use my mouse to scroll down windows (file lists), move my cursor around to point and click on videos and any UI features, etc. In DeoVR/SLR on the PC, I still have to move around my head in order to point the center cursor on something to click on. I even have to do that to move the scroll bar! Save my neck muscles please 😿
Less nested UI. I still am not pleased with how Deo changed their UI and made so many basic settings/options nested. That combined with no mouse support, I just give up changing any options like playback speed, zoom in/out, sharpness, etc. Previously, I've been told to use the controller to map these functions, but as I've stated before, the controller does not have the ability to save any presets on the PC version. Nothing I do to my controller presets ever works, so it makes the controller useless for me. In HS, there is one menu that you can bring up that has everything front and center. yes it may be ugly and a wall of settings, but it's easy for me to get to what I want to change as quickly as possible.

petermc

I don’t see a huge difference between the two to be honest but then I don’t really use the huge amount of available adjustments on Heresphere. I’m more of a click play and watch person. I think the colours are more vibrant on Heresphere but that’s about it. I’ve never used DeoVR for watching downloaded content so I’m just comparing streaming on Deo and streaming on Heresphere. I do now use Heresphere and XBVR instead of Skybox though for watching downloads and it is far superior.

For streaming then, I don’t see a massive difference other than there’s lots more things you can tweak and adjust if you’re that way inclined. You obviously have to take into account though that one is a free player and the other will cost you $30. For downloads, I’ve never used DeoVR so I can’t compare.

It’s also worth mentioning that one is in the Oculus store and updates automatically whereas the other you have to sideload and have to uninstall/reinstall to get the latest updated version. That’s if you’re even aware that it has updated. It’s not the easiest thing to do if you’re not very computer savvy.

petergriff

Every discussion about Heresphere feels like when people used to talk about downloading FLAC files because they were so much better than MP3s. I constantly feel like I'm missing something or doing it wrong because I don't find it to be as game-changing as everyone else does. I'm also someone with incredibly basic needs when it comes to VR so that probably has a lot to do with it too. I load up HS and just looking at the menus feels like doing homework. It's incredibly unintuitive.

The auto-focus is an obvious plus but I don't find myself missing it when it's not there. The other stuff, as far as image enhancements go, I genuinely can't tell the difference at all. People on Reddit were losing their minds about the new sharpening feature and talking like it suddenly made all of the old 4K scenes look crystal clear but I just don't see it.

TBH I think a lot of the goodwill comes from the fact that they seem to be constantly tweaking the software/listening to feedback and have a much more consumer-friendly reputation than SLR does.

spacepirate

petergriff i found it unintuitive to use at first because of the unfamilarity combined with all the knobs that can be tweaked. its a lot to take in. after some use it became much more efficient to use than deovr where there is so much friction and you have to go through multiple menus to change anything. its way ahead of deo for making scenes watchable when they suffer from scaling and other issues too.. somehow there are still a lot of new scenes like that in 2023. with deo most scenes like that are unfixable.

its almost like comparing photoshop (hs) to ms paint (deovr). hs is more powerful and flexible. things it does it tends to do well. fast and easy to get things done especially as a power user.

if you are only loading up sexlikereal.com for basic watching of some videos and are oblivious to all the things that could be improved you wont see any of the use cases where hs really shines.

Vrsumo2017

You try the motion slider? Move it all the way to left and barley move your head in to zoom In to certain parts of body parts. That how the deo 6dof should work, it's just needs more zoom %

And hs sharpen is pretty good, deos sharpen is good but could be a Lil better 🤏

Hs has smb support, and I'm hoping deo supports smb soon so I can use pt on my computer files.

But other then that, it's a cool player but will it be my go to to use on vr videos, nah

Honestly, I really wasn't blown away by it, maybe I was expecting a lot considering so much positive feed back it has gotten.

...🤷‍♂️

fenderwq

Almost forgot, Heresphere has subtitle support. I auto generate these for JAV files all the time. Really nice to finally know what they are saying (there is some weird and creative stuff there haha)

Polar

I auto generate these for JAV files all the time. Really nice to finally know what they are saying (there is some weird and creative stuff there haha)

Would you mind sharing what methods/tools you are using for this?

fenderwq

Polar Sure, I have my own library management app build in Electron but basically all that does is trigger a python script based on https://github.com/agermanidis/autosub and then place the files in the right folder etc.
It's not perfect but when there is not much background noise it can be really good.

Polar

fenderwq
Thanks, appreciate this!

Rakly3

UI customizations.
Been asking to be able to zoom out the UI much further for as long I can remember.
Having to turn your head to use the UI is very annoying, you can never see the whole UI at once.

Imagine you're playing a game, and to see the map you have to turn your head all the way to the left, but to change the map options, you have to turn your head all the way to the right.

I'm not asking to change the defaults, just that we can zoom it out more.

jay22111

One thing HS handles is one controller use. If you have a controller disabled and use DEOvr and try to step back you will see a ghost controller pop up. Its super annoying honestly

doublevr

jay22111 going to be fixed first thing. Didn't know there a way around 👍️

Mutiny

I thought that was just a Quest issue with menu interfaces in general, but yeah, that definitely happens in DEO. In the meantime, the workaround is just to hold the Oculus button to recenter. The ghost controller disappears from your field of view (it's behind your head, so you can still see it if you lean back far enough).

jay22111

Mutiny I agree you can work around it. However I kinda cheat it by moving my head closer then i would normally sit, recenter then lean back. I do this as I find the UI and other elements to be to close with my vision.

@doublevr one other thing, not saying the other player has this but ability to zoom out more within deo on the landing page would be super solid.

armadillo

You can roll/tilt your head and still get a coherent stereo image in HereSphere. The fact that you get an extra DOF alone is enough.

doublevr

Thx guys for all the insights. We are processing these internally and will follow up on every aspect. There's definitely a way for improvement.

We already confirmed there's a memory issue crashing the app and will be fixing it shortly.

You can expect greatly revamped SLR app and Deo as the team got shifted to a super performing lead who has been driving things for years in his small capacity. Now he is leading the whole project and expectations are really high.

mebejoe

doublevr Okay, let's get this sorted.

Please suggest things you like about HS that you don't find on pars in Deo.

Now this is great customer service!

I'm going to second some of the above from my experience:

Better image quality for some reason. Not sure why--just feels more immersive.
Integrates with other websites.
Reorienting playback screen and GUI with one click--and all you need to do is direct your gaze to where you want it.
Better 2D support. A user can play multiple flat videos, I think up to 12 at once, like a giant curved wall of porn. This can be quite an experience if you're into gooning.

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