doublevr i told you how to identify a lot of issues not what those issues are.
"give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime"
DeoVR v HereSphere
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6 dof is part of the player that really makes a difference to me. If you move your head the picture is not static.
You can set multiple setting with an xbox controller by using layered buttons. For deo app I don't have enough buttons to put all the setting on the controller. Because of that I have to pull up the menu to move the slide to the left or right all the time. You want to talk about immersion breaking.
doublevr Please suggest things you like about HS that you don't find on pars in Deo.
The main things for me as to why I prefer HereSphere:
- Handy scripts automatically adjust and sync to playback speed. That means, if I watch a scene at 75% speed, the Handy script adjusts on the fly and stays in sync. Super cool for edging scenarios.
- Mouse support! I've been requesting this for years... but since I am a PC VR user, I like to use my mouse to scroll down windows (file lists), move my cursor around to point and click on videos and any UI features, etc. In DeoVR/SLR on the PC, I still have to move around my head in order to point the center cursor on something to click on. I even have to do that to move the scroll bar! Save my neck muscles please
- Less nested UI. I still am not pleased with how Deo changed their UI and made so many basic settings/options nested. That combined with no mouse support, I just give up changing any options like playback speed, zoom in/out, sharpness, etc. Previously, I've been told to use the controller to map these functions, but as I've stated before, the controller does not have the ability to save any presets on the PC version. Nothing I do to my controller presets ever works, so it makes the controller useless for me. In HS, there is one menu that you can bring up that has everything front and center. yes it may be ugly and a wall of settings, but it's easy for me to get to what I want to change as quickly as possible.
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I don’t see a huge difference between the two to be honest but then I don’t really use the huge amount of available adjustments on Heresphere. I’m more of a click play and watch person. I think the colours are more vibrant on Heresphere but that’s about it. I’ve never used DeoVR for watching downloaded content so I’m just comparing streaming on Deo and streaming on Heresphere. I do now use Heresphere and XBVR instead of Skybox though for watching downloads and it is far superior.
For streaming then, I don’t see a massive difference other than there’s lots more things you can tweak and adjust if you’re that way inclined. You obviously have to take into account though that one is a free player and the other will cost you $30. For downloads, I’ve never used DeoVR so I can’t compare.
It’s also worth mentioning that one is in the Oculus store and updates automatically whereas the other you have to sideload and have to uninstall/reinstall to get the latest updated version. That’s if you’re even aware that it has updated. It’s not the easiest thing to do if you’re not very computer savvy.
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Every discussion about Heresphere feels like when people used to talk about downloading FLAC files because they were so much better than MP3s. I constantly feel like I'm missing something or doing it wrong because I don't find it to be as game-changing as everyone else does. I'm also someone with incredibly basic needs when it comes to VR so that probably has a lot to do with it too. I load up HS and just looking at the menus feels like doing homework. It's incredibly unintuitive.
The auto-focus is an obvious plus but I don't find myself missing it when it's not there. The other stuff, as far as image enhancements go, I genuinely can't tell the difference at all. People on Reddit were losing their minds about the new sharpening feature and talking like it suddenly made all of the old 4K scenes look crystal clear but I just don't see it.
TBH I think a lot of the goodwill comes from the fact that they seem to be constantly tweaking the software/listening to feedback and have a much more consumer-friendly reputation than SLR does.
You try the motion slider? Move it all the way to left and barley move your head in to zoom In to certain parts of body parts. That how the deo 6dof should work, it's just needs more zoom %
And hs sharpen is pretty good, deos sharpen is good but could be a Lil better 
Hs has smb support, and I'm hoping deo supports smb soon so I can use pt on my computer files.
But other then that, it's a cool player but will it be my go to to use on vr videos, nah
Honestly, I really wasn't blown away by it, maybe I was expecting a lot considering so much positive feed back it has gotten.
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petergriff i found it unintuitive to use at first because of the unfamilarity combined with all the knobs that can be tweaked. its a lot to take in. after some use it became much more efficient to use than deovr where there is so much friction and you have to go through multiple menus to change anything. its way ahead of deo for making scenes watchable when they suffer from scaling and other issues too.. somehow there are still a lot of new scenes like that in 2023. with deo most scenes like that are unfixable.
its almost like comparing photoshop (hs) to ms paint (deovr). hs is more powerful and flexible. things it does it tends to do well. fast and easy to get things done especially as a power user.
if you are only loading up sexlikereal.com for basic watching of some videos and are oblivious to all the things that could be improved you wont see any of the use cases where hs really shines.
Almost forgot, Heresphere has subtitle support. I auto generate these for JAV files all the time. Really nice to finally know what they are saying (there is some weird and creative stuff there haha)
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Polar Sure, I have my own library management app build in Electron but basically all that does is trigger a python script based on https://github.com/agermanidis/autosub and then place the files in the right folder etc.
It's not perfect but when there is not much background noise it can be really good.
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UI customizations.
Been asking to be able to zoom out the UI much further for as long I can remember.
Having to turn your head to use the UI is very annoying, you can never see the whole UI at once.
Imagine you're playing a game, and to see the map you have to turn your head all the way to the left, but to change the map options, you have to turn your head all the way to the right.
I'm not asking to change the defaults, just that we can zoom it out more.
One thing HS handles is one controller use. If you have a controller disabled and use DEOvr and try to step back you will see a ghost controller pop up. Its super annoying honestly
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I thought that was just a Quest issue with menu interfaces in general, but yeah, that definitely happens in DEO. In the meantime, the workaround is just to hold the Oculus button to recenter. The ghost controller disappears from your field of view (it's behind your head, so you can still see it if you lean back far enough).
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You can roll/tilt your head and still get a coherent stereo image in HereSphere. The fact that you get an extra DOF alone is enough.
Thx guys for all the insights. We are processing these internally and will follow up on every aspect. There's definitely a way for improvement.
We already confirmed there's a memory issue crashing the app and will be fixing it shortly.
You can expect greatly revamped SLR app and Deo as the team got shifted to a super performing lead who has been driving things for years in his small capacity. Now he is leading the whole project and expectations are really high.
doublevr Okay, let's get this sorted.
Please suggest things you like about HS that you don't find on pars in Deo.
Now this is great customer service!
I'm going to second some of the above from my experience:
- Better image quality for some reason. Not sure why--just feels more immersive.
- Integrates with other websites.
- Reorienting playback screen and GUI with one click--and all you need to do is direct your gaze to where you want it.
- Better 2D support. A user can play multiple flat videos, I think up to 12 at once, like a giant curved wall of porn. This can be quite an experience if you're into gooning.
Mutiny I agree you can work around it. However I kinda cheat it by moving my head closer then i would normally sit, recenter then lean back. I do this as I find the UI and other elements to be to close with my vision.
@doublevr one other thing, not saying the other player has this but ability to zoom out more within deo on the landing page would be super solid.