Some solutions I see here are just terrible, like 1 download a day and incremental increase only if you do it everyday..? Wtf who has the time to daily come to SLR to download? And why are we coming up with more timers, delays and limitations? Especially when apparently the downloaders are a minority? At this point I wonder if there even are any "heavy users" because it's not like ~150 downloads/month is realistically possible for most people (that's 5 times in a month 30 downloads every 6 days with current timer).
I understand there has to be a monthly download limit so you can't just sign up for 1 month and download 1000 files, that's totally fine. My issue with the new limitations is the long duration of waiting time. I don't always have time for watching and/or downloading VR scenes sometimes for a week or 2-3. Which means for some months I only get like 30 at most. I don't want to be forced to do this shit weekly, it'd be much better if it was just a clear cut x-amount p/month, it was 300 with the 72h, now 150 but only if you're on top of it when the timers reset. In any case can we just let people download whenever they have the time please?
LordCrash Option A: Streaming only for e.g. 20 bucks/month
Option B: Streaming + high quality downloads (high res, high bitrate, fast server) for e.g. 30 bucks/month
I really hope this doesn't happen as I don't see why we should have to pay extra for using less resources/bandwidth than the streaming users. Most VR sites just offer downloads, imo it's the streaming that's the premium thing on SLR in addition to the downloads every other site offers. If anything streaming is the more costly thing, maintaining servers, re-encoding for stream qualities, app development, etc.
Personally it's already fairly pricey for me with the world economy going to shit recently everything has been getting more expensive. I've considered requesting the reduced fee thing they posted on the blog, but I'm already on a lower price from years ago so it's still doable for now, I think it'd probably get denied anyway lol.
Rakly3 When it comes to abuse, downloading the limit of what is allowed is not seen or treated as abuse by us. Meaning, the change in download limit is not because of abuse. The Fair Use aspect is something different. Fair Use, in this context is about other users.
This sounds odd, fair use in context about other users? How is downloading at all related to other users? The only way I can think of is network/bandwidth usage. But streaming uses way more so that can't be it... I really dislike how I keep seeing nonsensical reasons to justify increasingly annoying limitations.
Rakly3 The more you stream them, the more they get paid.
SLR has contractual obligations towards the content creators. Accurate payouts are one of them.
THIS however... I think we're finally getting to the bottom of why all this is happening. I guess SLR doesn't have contracts with creators set up in a way that take downloads in consideration well enough? So rather than adjusting the contracts-issue the "downloading members" are essentially seen as the problem instead. Is that why we continuously get worse limitations, in an attempt to force more people to stream instead? If so this would mean it's a plain bully-people-towards-streaming campaign. That would be messed up but I think it fits the general attitude tbh.
Regardless I don't understand why there's such a war on downloaders as your own data shows downloading members are a minority which would mean it's a minor or even non-issue. Even if all downloading members were to suddenly give up and go streaming it would be like a drop in the bucket kind of change.
I hope SLR will come to the realization sooner rather than later that streaming at least for a subset of members will never be a good enough option regardless of whatever limitations you put on us to try and get us to switch. This isn't exactly like Netflix, some of us will just always want to have local files as well. Some want it just for favorite scenes, some for local streaming quality, using XBVR and other players, etc. Streaming is a nice addition to have but downloads will always be wanted as well, perhaps soon it can just coexist without the annoying timers.
